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Old 05-06-2008, 09:05 PM
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Horrible, absolutely horrible. his makes me think twice of renewing my Toontown subscription, buying a Disney DVD, or purchasing anything Disney.
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Old 05-06-2008, 09:28 PM
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Horrible, absolutely horrible. his makes me think twice of renewing my Toontown subscription, buying a Disney DVD, or purchasing anything Disney.
What does purchasing a DVD or anything else Disney have to do with WDIG? Once you buy a physical items it's not like they can come to your house and take it.
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Old 05-06-2008, 09:55 PM
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So they closin it for no reason at all? what dumbos disney are
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Old 05-06-2008, 10:00 PM
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Hmm, its an interesting change that i had often wondered about. This is the very reason why i do not pay for any internet games. Its just like series television, just when it gets good they pull the plug because it is not netting them the amount of money they think it should and/or its replacement could.
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So.. what does this mean in very simple terms?
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Old 05-06-2008, 10:02 PM
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Most nations, even the USofA, have constitutions that prohibit things like "WE MAY TERMINATE YOUR FURTHER ACCESS...FOR ANY REASON OR NO REASON". For instance, I would LOVE to see them terminate someone because of their race or religion. If they wanna try, there is a certain Brown Satanic Bunny they can work on...-ekb-
100% wrong.

In truth, most nations don't have constitutions that prohibit companies from terminating your access to their property or copyrighted material.

In the US, the constitution states that neither congress nor any state shall make or enforce laws that discriminate on account of race or religion. It is silent on discrimination by corporations or individuals.

Most other western nations deal with discrimination in commerce in their local or federal civil codes. The vast majority of Asian and African nations do not address the subject at all.

Actually reading documents before citing them as examples is always a good plan and will save you further embarrassment.

How I wish that they taught proper civics in American Schools nowadays!
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So.. what does this mean in very simple terms?
Disney is cheating us out of our money!
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Old 05-06-2008, 10:08 PM
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Hah, as I read this We have cancelled our 2 summer trips, 2 weeks each, one to DLR and one to WDW. I've also revoked my membership in DMR. As well as gone to my local disney star at the mall, and had the gift cards cashed in and I quote myself on this "unless you would like me to start something." They just lost quite a bit of money, especially since my credit card has disney logos on it, which is no CANCELLED.
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So.. what does this mean in very simple terms?
What it all really means is that they can and do, whatever and whenever they like with their stuff, without any reason. If you do not let them win they will get mad and take their toys away.

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I AM GOING TO SUE DISNEY!!!!! They are very rude. They think this is going to stop us? They're wrong!!!!!!!!!
Oh I almost forgot that part, they also put in a disclaimer that you cannot sue them for any reason.

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Old 05-06-2008, 10:12 PM
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What it all really means is that they can and do, whatever and whenever they like with their stuff, without any reason. If you do not let them win they will get mad and take their toys away.
Rofl, and they'll be hearing from me and my family, possibly channel 9 news if they go to far.
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Old 05-06-2008, 10:47 PM
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You can say goodbye to my Pirates Online membership. And me buying Disney DVDs.
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Old 05-06-2008, 11:34 PM
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If You or Any Member of VMK does not log on to any Disney Online Site after 5/6/08, they can't close VMK because legally, that person, and there account has not agreed to the Terms of Use as of 5/6/08, sence those things were added on that date, if one person just one does not log on to VMK, they can't close VMK, because they did not agree to Having sites closed that they use, as well as being limited to not using the site.
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Old 05-06-2008, 11:37 PM
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Well is this just a ray of sunshine...

How about those who agreed to the terms of service before today? So, techniqually, I would think they don't have the legal right to terminate the game without reason seeing as nobody agreed to that.
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Old 05-06-2008, 11:41 PM
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Well is this just a ray of sunshine...

How about those who agreed to the terms of service before today? So, techniqually, I would think they don't have the legal right to terminate the game without reason seeing as nobody agreed to that.
Yes, Technically, Sence I logged on to VMK Today, I agreed to it today, if you do not "Use" a site of theres after this date, and own an account, you didn't agree so they don't have a right to
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Old 05-06-2008, 11:43 PM
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Guys, I would like you to Listen to This:


If You or Any Member of VMK does not log on to any Disney Online Site after 5/6/08, they can't close VMK because legally, that person, and there account has not agreed to the Terms of Use as of 5/6/08, sence those things were added on that date, if one person just one does not log on to VMK, they can't close VMK, because they did not agree to Having sites closed that they use, as well as being limited to not using the site.
Actually, we did agree to the following:

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At any time, we may amend these terms of use (including by modification, deletion and/or addition of any portion thereof). If we make a material amendment to these terms of use, we will notify you of such amendment by sending you an e-mail at the last e-mail address that you provided us, and/or by posting notice of such amendment on the Web sites covered by these terms of use. Any such amendment to these terms of use will be effective thirty (30) calendar days following either our dispatch of an e-mail notice to you or our posting of notice of the changes on the Web Sites. Please note that, at all times, you are responsible for updating your personal information to provide us your current e-mail address. In the event that the last e-mail address that you have provided us is not valid, or for any other reason is not capable of delivering to you the notice described above, our dispatch of the e-mail containing such notice will nonetheless constitute effective notice of any amendment described in the notice.
So they can force us to abide by any new rules. HOWEVER, in this version of the 'WDIG Terms of Use' (unchanged from an older version as well - so we have agreed to them), they have stated that the changes would be effective 30 days after they have been added to the site and/or e-mailed to you. I don't have a record of which changes were added today, but if it was important for allowing VMK to close or fix any issues of VMK closing, it won't be effective until 30 days from today, or June 5th, well after VMK closes.

If we can find out which changes were made, and how/if we can use them effectively, we might have found a loophole.
 

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