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Silly Princess 01-03-2006 05:43 PM

posts asking for the trading of ACTUAL TRADING CARDS
 
*DANGEROUS TREND*

Lately I've come across a dangerous trend of threads/posts asking for the trading of ACTUAL TRADING CARDS.

This is not allowed on vmkforums due to asking/receiving personal information to complete such trades. (Real life names and addresses.)

These threads/posts will be removed by moderators as they're found, and warnings will be sent.

As always, please report bad posts by using the Report Post button, rather than replying within the thread. Thank you all for doing your part to keep vmkforums a happy and safe site.

Miss.Adventure 01-03-2006 05:50 PM

on the second 1 you made i said thanks i want to say it again There have been many people telling their real names in real life thanks for posting this!

The Great Funstitch 01-03-2006 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silly Princess
*DANGEROUS TREND*

Lately I've come across a dangerous trend of threads/posts asking for the trading of ACTUAL TRADING CARDS.

This is not allowed on vmkforums due to asking/receiving personal information to complete such trades. (Real life names and addresses.)

These threads/posts will be removed by moderators as they're found, and warnings will be sent.

As always, please report bad posts by using the Report Post button, rather than replying within the thread. Thank you all for doing your part to keep vmkforums a happy and safe site.

Yeah Trading Actual Trading Cards Is Bad Thanks For Bringing That Up.:)

-Funstitch:xmas12:

jdrocks 01-03-2006 06:34 PM

Um....[name deleted] made a actual trading card post...and thanks Silly Princess you rock!! Thanks for telling us this stuff. :)



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Narutolover25 01-03-2006 06:41 PM

thanks for the warning

Union_Angel 01-03-2006 07:18 PM

Thanks!,for keeping the forums safe yay mods! LOL

Tandrew 01-03-2006 07:28 PM

Thanks, lots of people needed to know that! Now Forums can be a safer and better place!

Stunt 01-03-2006 07:53 PM

I can agree with the safety issue but I have to say I totally disagree.

As some who is an avid trading card collector (which was the reason I started playing VMK in the first place) I have no other way of getting some of the DLR trading cards other then to try and trade them, or do the mods condone using Ebay to buy them.

I'm sure no one here will in any way shape or form condone us to go to Ebay and buy the cards as we've seen what happens whenever someone uses that word here, people get up in arms and begin arguing about it.

As a resposible adult I think I can regulate my own actions and if I (through PM and not public forum) am willing to divulge my name and address to someone I see no harm or fowl. I have already conducted trades on this board and other boards with numberous people and everthing has gone smoothly.

So, rather than bashing this and telling everyone to stop, why don't we come up with some sort of a system to help fellow members get trading cards if they want them.

I leave it up to the MODS. Let's try to figure something out for those wanting to do it. Or are you saying, going back to paragraph 1, buy them on Ebay and deal with it.

greenhpper 01-03-2006 08:00 PM

As an unintentional offender :blush8: (I learned the lesson teacher) I wonder, just as there are special forums (rants, and secrets), if could there be an adult (18+) forum that requires some sort of verification to belong to? Or is there a community that is for adults that I can find using Google.

CrazyAlly 01-03-2006 08:04 PM

thanks for keeping VMKF safe MODS! MODS ROCK MY SOXS!lol

~CrazyAlly~

Silly Princess 01-03-2006 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stunticonaol
I'm sure no one here will in any way shape or form condone us to go to Ebay and buy the cards as we've seen what happens whenever someone uses that word here, people get up in arms and begin arguing about it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by stunticonaol
So, rather than bashing this and telling everyone to stop

vmkforums has no control nor wishes to stop anyone from using eBay. Just don't post about it, since it's an outside link that's not allowed.

We're also in no way bashing anything, only enforcing the "G" rated rules. Due to the large amount of children on the site, we cannot allow any trading of personal information. Children's safety is our main concern here.

Stunt 01-03-2006 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greenhpper
As an unintentional offender :blush8: (I learned the lesson teacher) I wonder, just as there are special forums (rants, and secrets), if could there be an adult (18+) forum that requires some sort of verification to belong to? Or is there a community that is for adults that I can find using Google.


This I could totally agree with. I have in fact done trades with Greenhpper and have even had a chance to meet her in WDW. I have tried to limit what I do to what I feel in my opinion are responsible adults to avoid any interaction with kids and avoid any issues. I put it to the mods to come up with something to help us out. As greenhpper said and I agree with, why not have some sort of dedicated forum to help us.

PinkPokaDot 01-03-2006 08:41 PM

I as a teenager would not want to give out my adress but I can see where older members of the forums are coming from.I think that somehow there should be a way that if you are an adult you can be allowed to do this.Or if there was away to get parents permissions ( like my dadis on the forums so he clould do it for me)

Stunt 01-03-2006 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PinkPokaDot
I as a teenager would not want to give out my adress but I can see where older members of the forums are coming from.I think that somehow there should be a way that if you are an adult you can be allowed to do this.Or if there was away to get parents permissions ( like my dadis on the forums so he clould do it for me)

Once again- agree.

Mods what are your thoughts on this.

Stunt 01-03-2006 08:57 PM

Sorry for the double post but I just had a great idea.

I haven't seen many people that actually trade cards so I don't think this will affect that many people, but I could be wrong.

Have any and all trading of cards be MOD regulated.

Meaning, anyone that wants to trade cards they will PM mods.
The person trading will mail them to a MOD and the MOD will mail them to the person, this way only MODS know what's going on.

Each person could include $1 or $2 so that the MODS could get the packaging and shipping paid for and have extra on each one to contribute to the website. This way trades can be safely done and the website gets a small contribution.

I would even volunteer my self (I know I am not a MOD but would be willing to help) to do this.

What do you guys think???:xmas24:

Lady 01-03-2006 09:04 PM

I think it would be great to have an 18+ forum to do stuff like trading the actual cards, etc.

That said, I don't see how they could verify it. The internet is so anonymous. Even if they required scans of some form of ID to join, a kid could just scan their parent's ID.

I've always got some extra VMK cards whenever I go to Disney for possible trades. I don't know what good that'd do since we can't arrange meetings. But I'm always hopeful I'll stumble upon someone else as crazy as I am. :)

spot41414 01-03-2006 09:05 PM

i can't tell the difference lol i'm not on alot

RedRockingMint 01-03-2006 09:06 PM

thank you for informing us sillyprincess.
woot woot! 600th post!

Stunt 01-03-2006 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lady
I think it would be great to have an 18+ forum to do stuff like trading the actual cards, etc.

That said, I don't see how they could verify it. The internet is so anonymous. Even if they required scans of some form of ID to join, a kid could just scan their parent's ID.

I've always got some extra VMK cards whenever I go to Disney for possible trades. I don't know what good that'd do since we can't arrange meetings. But I'm always hopeful I'll stumble upon someone else as crazy as I am. :)

It would be hard. Not trying to say my idea is perfect but if we have one person who is a mod, they have access to names and addresses already, what would the harm be in having them facilitate the trade.

Like I said Win / Win- Someone else gets cards and the board can raise some extra cash.

CiscoRau 01-03-2006 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stunticonaol
Sorry for the double post but I just had a great idea.

I haven't seen many people that actually trade cards so I don't think this will affect that many people, but I could be wrong.

Have any and all trading of cards be MOD regulated.

Meaning, anyone that wants to trade cards they will PM mods.
The person trading will mail them to a MOD and the MOD will mail them to the person, this way only MODS know what's going on.

Each person could include $1 or $2 so that the MODS could get the packaging and shipping paid for and have extra on each one to contribute to the website. This way trades can be safely done and the website gets a small contribution.

I would even volunteer my self (I know I am not a MOD but would be willing to help) to do this.

What do you guys think???:xmas24:

You know, I was toying around with the same idea. How about a new site (VMKCardTraders.com) that would do this same thing. Send it to a "neutral" site and have a "worker" do all the trading. Would be easy to set up.

On another note, I find that the whole "safety" issue that the MODS are tauting is just a convenient front. Have you ever tried the "Send and Email" link in a person's profile? It says right at the bottom that you are SENDING YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS to the other person. If safety really is an issue, why do they allow this?!? Also, why let people but their AIM, MSN or other IM IDs in their profile. They are providing a convenient way for people to trade information while seemingly tauting safety. (Oh and don't point it out or you'll get a 3 day ban. Trust me...)

Smoop 01-03-2006 09:19 PM

The other problem with online trading is the validity of the trade. What if you trade a bunch of VMK cards to someone on the forums and you don't get anything in return? VMKForums can not be found liable with any kind of loss you take since NO PERSONAL INFO must be given in the first place. You break the rules, then you get no cards. As a pin trader, there are places such as Dizpins and PinPics for those kinds of things. Even then, I have been burned on a few pin trades myself. Remember, online trading can be easy and convenient, but it's also dangerous and you can get scammed. The best thing to do is to trade your cards with your REAL life friends (not friends you made online) or trade when you're at a Disney park.

Stunt 01-03-2006 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smoop
The other problem with online trading is the validity of the trade. What if you trade a bunch of VMK cards to someone on the forums and you don't get anything in return? VMKForums can not be found liable with any kind of loss you take since NO PERSONAL INFO must be given in the first place. You break the rules, then you get no cards. As a pin trader, there are places such as Dizpins and PinPics for those kinds of things. Even then, I have been burned on a few pin trades myself. Remember, online trading can be easy and convenient, but it's also dangerous and you can get scammed. The best thing to do is to trade your cards with your REAL life friends (not friends you made online) or trade when you're at a Disney park.

You have an excellent point. But there is no way to know for sure. Also I live in Florida and have no friends that go to Disneyland in California. So I have no way of getting those cards. It's a paradox I know but I guess you have to take a chance.

I personally trade in game buyable stuff in bulk for real cards which the codes have been used on. This way if someone does burn me and does not trade me the cards all I really lost was some current buyable stuff.

I just did a trade where I gave someone 15000 credits worth of stuff. When I receive the cards I will give them 15000 more. She has already told me that she will mail me a new Monsters Inc card when it comes out on Friday.

This person also had a lot of posts on the board. I would not attempt a trade with someone who only had like 5 posts. Besides, there are certain people on the board that you see all the time and have to take a chance and hope it works out.

That's all it is, taking a chance.:xmas16:

SoccerKaitlyn 01-03-2006 09:29 PM

I saw the title warning and I am like omg and I started shaking......

PixelProphet 01-03-2006 10:15 PM

what about the pople that are well above the 18 year old age limit, can we still in good concience pm this information in order to give away used cards?

bfen 01-03-2006 10:20 PM

Thank you for adding this rule.

the Disneyhollic 01-04-2006 04:41 AM

I fail to see how a 18 or older rule could help. All that I could see this doing is makeing younger people (like myself) want to create another VMKF account and to say that their DOB was sometime in the 80's. I am shure that there is something that I am missing here and some way to stop this from happening, I just dont understand what that may be.

AppleBees 01-04-2006 04:52 AM

Thanks Mods :) It is always great that somebody is watching over out backs. And I am too against giving PI too .

cutie2 01-04-2006 06:02 AM

that is really dangerous thanks for reminding us of that!!!:)

captange 01-05-2006 05:09 AM

one time i did it i was trading with some kid in the Dinsneyland park i was on the pirates of the carribean ride and i found a stack of all the quest cards u can get in the park there were tea of each themn i traded some for lots of bird hats to a kid by matterhorn i just met him there so whole different story from this

kidkid9393 01-05-2006 05:11 AM

Ok yes maam miss silly princess maam

DisneyL8T 01-05-2006 07:17 AM

I agree with stunticonaol. There really is no other way to trade the cards. If I have Disneyland cards and live close to Disneyland, there's really no way for me to get WDW cards. I also did a search and could not find any site where trading of the cards was allowed. I agree that kids should not give out their information, but there should be some way to be able to trade. It would be awsome to have an 18+ board for this kind of thing.

greenhpper 01-05-2006 12:35 PM

Typically I use the contents of somone's posts to gauge their maturity rather than the number of posts. Just because someone has lots of posts does not mean they are mature. I also realize that there are some very mature members who are under 18 so it's not fool proof to analze content.

As far as asking a mod to be a go between, perhaps the mod does not want to give out personal information to so mant other people. A P.O. Box would be possible but then it would cost money to rent it. I think the Mods would also need to be compensated for their time.

I trust that someone someday will figure something out. What do they do at those pin trading web sites?

Silly Princess 01-05-2006 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by VMKForums Policy Guidlines
"Personal Information" - This site has children present therefore asking for or volunteering personal information is not allowed. Personal Info consists of Real Life Names, Age, Gender, Location, Email Address exchanges, Instant messenger ID's, Password/Account Information, School Information and other similar details. This also applies to posting personal pictures of the users, their schools, homes (that include their exact locations), etc. This applies to all forums, threads, posts, private messages, userpages, profiles, avatars and signatures. We here at Toontowncentral.com and VMKForums.com strive to keep the environment as safe as possible for our users.
For more information on Internet Safety for children please visit some these sites:WiredKids.org, WDIG'S Internet Safety Tips.



This Personal Info rule, along with all other rules, applies to EVERYONE on this site regardless of age.
I understand alot you are looking for ways around the rule to accomplish your trades; there is NO WAY this board will EVER allow personal info to be exchanged no matter what the reason.

As far as having a mod act as a third party, we'd be breaking the personal info rule ourselves. Mods are subject to the same rules as everyone else, if not more so; we lead by example.

VMKForums is not the place to be conducting trades that require exchange of Personal Information.


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