I've been thinking, there are tons of CL's in VMK and the poor VMK mailman gets hundreds of applications a day. so im just wondering why does everybody want to become a CL so badly? is it so you can feel important and be friends with staff? because you get a special CL pin in your sig? Im serious here. half the CL'S in VMK don't even act like CL's and aren't very nice to some players. but then there are some CL's who are good Cl's and treat everybody fairly. If you were a CL, would you be different? would you be mean to guest? If you are a VMK player who truely likes what the CL's do you can be one! you don't have to have the title as a CL in your name or anything just be nice and friendly to all players. I hope a lot of you read this because some people don't even know what CL's are supossed to do. the big question here though is, WHY DO YOU WANT TO BE A CL??? and WHAT WOULD YOU DO ONCE YOU ARE ONE?
~CrAzyEm

I don't want to be a Community Leader. It'd just be a hassle.

I can and do help people in the game without wearing the CL badge, and I don't get bombarded with random friend requests like Community Leaders do.

i want to be one to help people be safe and enjoy the kingdom. and answer any questions they might have

Many players won't listen when somebody tries to help them unless it is a CL.
I wantn to help with staff events and help new players.

i want to be one to help people be safe and enjoy the kingdom. and answer any questions they might have
I can do that without the title.

I would have 3 badges :). Oh an Neoteny good point. I do that all the time. All i need them to do is ask me for help. That's why i only want to be a CL for the badge

Actually only thing you DO get, is friends with staff, the attention of annoying and people who only listen to CL and that you help with staff. You can do the rest without being CL...

I just want to help staff and players.

Brer, thats not a good reason for being CL...

I can do that without the title.

That's right. You don't really need the badge to help people, just do it anyways! The only difference between a CL and a regular player helping people is that a CL is an official Helper in VMK. I, already, are already helping new players getting started in the game and I don't have the badge. I would love to be a CL, but if I can't, I'll still help people anyways.:D .

I think a lot of people want to be a CL for the badge and just the fact that CL_ is infront of your vmk name. But hey i cna't speak for most people. That's 1 of the reasons i wanted to become a CL.

But now i realize we are all CL's in a certain perspective (wo big words watch out, LOL)

Why do I want to be a community leader? Beacause I want to be a great leader in the community and to help other VMK players. I am willing to do anything I can to help VMK players or staff. I also feel that I can really help staff with events and all sorts of things.

You don't have to be a CL_ to help people. I'm sure that a lot of people want to be a CL because of the staff friends. Of course, there are always good people that really do help people with and without the CL_ in front of their names. I for one, don't want to be a Community Leader. I'm already happy that I can help others.

I would have 3 badges :). Oh an Neoteny good point. I do that all the time. All i need them to do is ask me for help. That's why i only want to be a CL for the badge
So, you only want to be a CL_ because of the 3 badges? o_o
You wait for people to ask for help? Why not offer them help when they aren't asking but still need it.
Wait, I'm confusing myself.. @_@

I agree that you can help players out without the community leader title. I do myself. :) But I think I could help alot MORE if I were a community leader. I don't want to be one for the title or the badge or having the staff on my friends list (my friends list is full, of very good friends!). I would still want to be a community leader even if those things weren't included. Here's why. :)

When I see something wrong on the streets of VMK, I'll ask the people nicely to stop. But they usually reply with something "cute" like "Shut up, you're no community leader! Go away..." I don't mind reporting the really bad stuff, but I hate to annoy the staff with stuff I could probably take care of myself, if they would listen... -_-

Another reason is because of an expeirence I've had. One time I asked a staff member if they needed some help during one of their ride-a-thon games (telling players where to go, answering questions, stuff like that). But the staff simply said no, that is the community leaders' job. I understand about them not wanting random people helping, but I really want to do my part, and I can't. :(

So there. Disagree if you like. Many of you have excellent points on not being a community leader, and being one. :) Just thought I'd add to the discussion. :)

Love,

Faith :hug:

I want to be a cl so that i can help with staff games and help vmk players and also for the purty badge lol

That's right. You don't really need the badge to help people, just do it anyways! The only difference between a CL and a regular player helping people is that a CL is an official Helper in VMK. I, already, are already helping new players getting started in the game and I don't have the badge. I would love to be a CL, but if I can't, I'll still help people anyways.:D .

but people acctualy listen to you when your a cl

I want to be a CL_ because I like to help people. Almost everyday (usually at Town Square) I meet people that say "I need help".Then during my time on VMK I give them some tours and tips for earing credits. I think it's good CL practice. Yes I might be a little nervous to walk up to someone and say "Hi. Do you need help?" Maybe it's not my time yet, or maybe there will never be a time for me to be a CL.
Some people may want to be one for having respect from other players, sometmes even I think that. But it's true, if you want respect you need to work for it.
~Chaelle

but people acctualy listen to you when your a cl

Recently, many guests and players have been coming up to me and asking for help. They actually listened and appreciated that I helped them ( Not to be bragging.@_@).

You know what I find funny, it's that you don't have to be a Community Leader to help make vmk better or to keep people safe. You can help make vmk better, give advice, and enforce vmk values without the CL Badge or title. Deny it all you would like, but it's true

You know what I find funny, it's that you don't have to be a Community Leader to help make vmk better or to keep people safe. You can help make vmk better, give advice, and enforce vmk values without the CL Badge or title. Deny it all you would like, but it's true

I agree. I find people listen to me whether I am a CL or not. I used to want to be a CL for the main reason that I could help out at staff events and that people would know I was someone who could be trusted/someone they could ask questions of.

But now I figure except for the staff events, I do the rest anyway. And I can do it on my own time (pretty much I don't just abandon someone who has a problem). I can take a break from vmk when I feel like it, and come back when I feel like it.

Hmm I agree too, but it seems to me that if people have more rare people will listen to them: "hey this person has something I don't have they can probably answer my questions"
~Chaelle

You know what I find funny, it's that you don't have to be a Community Leader to help make vmk better or to keep people safe. You can help make vmk better, give advice, and enforce vmk values without the CL Badge or title. Deny it all you would like, but it's true

100% true and thats basically why i made this thread there are so many ppl who just want to be a CL for silly reasons as you can see from other posts here. to tell you the truth, i think VMK should either A) stop using Cl's or B) you have to work up ot become a CL like VMK has to notice how you act like a CL before you are a CL then you have to get nominated or something. idk but currently im fine not being a CL if people really need my help they will ask and if people are not respecting VMK vales i tell them and if they don't listen i Report them.

Recently, many guests and players have been coming up to me and asking for help. They actually listened and appreciated that I helped them ( Not to be bragging.@_@).

same in my sig it says need help or a friend? just ask:) and tons of people do. one of my good friends in VMK became my friend back when she was a quest and needed help with the divers magic quest.

You can help without the title. Its just that more people listen to you when you ARE a CL.

Alot of my good friends are the ones that were guests that needed my help. Unfortunetly they aren't on alot.
They have lives....
~Chaelle

I must be a CL_ because I help everyone that comes to my room and ask question, I help them with the quest and I give out alot of prizes in my 6 quest. ( Oh sorry I must be a Host then I always given out free stuff. Lol)

i help almost everyone in vmk even alot of new ppl, and it is like most of the community leaders are mean and others are very nice and it is not right that some of those mean community leaders get chosen and not most of the responseable

100% true and thats basically why i made this thread there are so many ppl who just want to be a CL for silly reasons as you can see from other posts here. to tell you the truth, i think VMK should either A) stop using Cl's or B) you have to work up ot become a CL like VMK has to notice how you act like a CL before you are a CL then you have to get nominated or something. idk but currently im fine not being a CL if people really need my help they will ask and if people are not respecting VMK vales i tell them and if they don't listen i Report them.



same in my sig it says need help or a friend? just ask:) and tons of people do. one of my good friends in VMK became my friend back when she was a quest and needed help with the divers magic quest.


Same in my sig. Here's mine : Need help? Just ask! Are you new to the game? I'll help you get started!:)

I explain to the new players every aspect of the game (Well I try to, including the subjects on taken, baby, armies. Hopefully this will decrease amount of people doing it)

I even got a room with all the Hidden Mickeys Photo and I would take you to them. I have ask Cl_ for help and they some time get dc. ( Nice way to say they leave the room and don't answer your question) But I have to say that we do have alot more Cl_ that are great and help you as best as they can.

I want to help people (Even though I do anyway....but still), give VMK new ideas, and make sure that everyone is safe.

I think what most people are trying to say is, even though they realize they can help people without the badge and "CL_" infront of their name, they want people to KNOW that they are there to help you. Many players look to leaders to have their questions answered correctly, because they are unsure of asking non-leaders... afraid of getting false info.

I think what most people are trying to say is, even though they realize they can help people without the badge and "CL_" infront of their name, they want people to KNOW that they are there to help you. Many players look to leaders to have their questions answered correctly, because they are unsure of asking non-leaders... afraid of getting false info.

However, this can work both ways. I was trying to convience my friend there might not be a halloween ride event. They kept saying a leader told them there was going to be one. I tried to explain however, I don't feel they did.

I agree with many people here. You don't have to become a community leader to help others. I wish many players out there, without a CL badge, would push to help new players because it creates more a friendly environment if we all help each other out.

Being a community leader myself, I've heard so many misconceptions about being CLs. Most people think you get free stuff, be "friends" with staff, and many other so-called perks that community leaders supposedly get. Hmm...I'm not close with staff and I don't see them often. The people I usually hang out are my good friends and they are not even staff. I don't even strive to want to help Hosts (I don't mind helping if the Host staff asks), but other than that, I'm usually only there to win the prize from that event (I'm still trying to win the churro pin, lol).

You don't get free stuff from being a leader. I've earned all my things like every other player did (playing staff games, trade, quests, etc.). Sadly, I get approached almost everyday from players with questions such as "How do you become a CL?" and "Do you get free stuff?"

Those misconceptions completely ruins what CLs are made for: just to be of official VMK helpers. I've been a CL for a year now, and I've experienced the good, the bad, and the ugly (but mostly good). Most of my good experience is meeting players who are enjoying the game as much as I am and helping players who needed the help. I would have quit a long time ago if I believed in getting the free stuff and being "friends" with VMK staff.

At the time that I applied, there weren't that many CLs, so I thought that it would be fun to volunteer to be the official help. I volunteer at hospitals and serve food for the homeless in real life on my spare time, so why now volunteer for a game that I enjoy playing? @_@ That was my reason.

CLs don't come with perks. Not only does you have to know VMK, you got to have responsibility, patience, tolerance, and a good attitude.

I can't speak for all the CLs out there, but I've met many CLs and they've all been great. However, I've only met less than 1/4 of all the CLs in VMK, so there are probably some bad CLs and I don't doubt that.

Just my two-cents. :mickeymo:

Thank you AmazingSam for dispelling some rumors about CLs. It is true that there are no perks, no free stuff, no Staff friends, no powers. All that the CL title shows is that you are a person that people could come to for help but it is also true that ANYONE can help.

If you are applying for CL simply for the badge, you are not the right material to become a CL so just stop that quest now.

Also, for those that say there are bad CLs out there . . . why are you not reporting them? If there is a serious problem don't excuse it just because someone is a CL, a bad player is still a bad player. BUT, be wary of reporting for silly things like a CL "ignoring" you because remember that computer problems happen. A person not responding to your questions could merely mean a computer problem and not rudeness.

I can help others, be kind and courteous to others without all that special attention CL's get, I would rather less attention, and I would rather be an anonymous helper than a person with a badge anyday.


- Sports

I agree with many people here. You don't have to become a community leader to help others. I wish many players out there, without a CL badge, would push to help new players because it creates more a friendly environment if we all help each other out.

Being a community leader myself, I've heard so many misconceptions about being CLs. Most people think you get free stuff, be "friends" with staff, and many other so-called perks that community leaders supposedly get. Hmm...I'm not close with staff and I don't see them often. The people I usually hang out are my good friends and they are not even staff. I don't even strive to want to help Hosts (I don't mind helping if the Host staff asks), but other than that, I'm usually only there to win the prize from that event (I'm still trying to win the churro pin, lol).

You don't get free stuff from being a leader. I've earned all my things like every other player did (playing staff games, trade, quests, etc.). Sadly, I get approached almost everyday from players with questions such as "How do you become a CL?" and "Do you get free stuff?"

Those misconceptions completely ruins what CLs are made for: just to be of official VMK helpers. I've been a CL for a year now, and I've experienced the good, the bad, and the ugly (but mostly good). Most of my good experience is meeting players who are enjoying the game as much as I am and helping players who needed the help. I would have quit a long time ago if I believed in getting the free stuff and being "friends" with VMK staff.

At the time that I applied, there weren't that many CLs, so I thought that it would be fun to volunteer to be the official help. I volunteer at hospitals and serve food for the homeless in real life on my spare time, so why now volunteer for a game that I enjoy playing? @_@ That was my reason.

CLs don't come with perks. Not only does you have to know VMK, you got to have responsibility, patience, tolerance, and a good attitude.

I can't speak for all the CLs out there, but I've met many CLs and they've all been great. However, I've only met less than 1/4 of all the CLs in VMK, so there are probably some bad CLs and I don't doubt that.

Just my two-cents. :mickeymo:


thanks for saying all that :) and i hope people start to treat others with respect and such. the qulities you have are what makes you a great CL(so it seems i haven't acctually met you) and i don't know if other CL's are wanting to be CL's for the same resons you are and people like you need to be CL's and others can just act like them

I enjoy leading new players to the top of Tom Sawyer's Island. It doesn't take a "Community Leader" to be a leader.

I enjoy leading new players to the top of Tom Sawyer's Island. It doesn't take a "Community Leader" to be a leader.


Very good point Neoteny. I really think that the "I want to be a leader to help people" is really getting old. I really don't see too many people asking for help and like everyone has said you don't have to be a leader to help someone. Personally I think we should be doing what Neoteny said, teaching peoeple. Most people don't have questions they always need help playing this game, how to get credits, buying things. Tell them every that Friday new pins come out in the Emporium. Give them an idea about the game the way it should be played. You don't have to be a leader to do any of that.

Ok, I have had some comments in vmk saying? "Tom, why do you want to be a leader, you already help?". Yes, I do already help, and it is fun and it is a kind and generous thing to do, but I have my reasons. Whenever I am out on main street or town square helping others, I see that up-standing community leader, who has already been a step ahead of me. I help my friends and some new players, but I really get taken away, for they all run to the leader. NO, I have had people make this sound wrong, I am not asking for popularity from new players, I am saying what I feel. I have always wanted to help in host games and events. I mean, I ask HOST_Hula if I can help in host games everyday she has a game, and sometimes she replies with a yes or a no ;) I do not want to be friends with staff or hosts, because we are already friends, off the friend list. Saying hello, catching up, asking how we are, that is how I treat a friend, on or off the friend list, and that is how I treat staff, not as the all-mighty powerful overlords, but as friends, even off the friends list :)

The badge is a minor thing, it means nothing, and the CL_ in front of my title, for some, it makes their titles more difficult to say when talking to friends. Those mean nothing to me. And if you are thinking this is my application, no it is not ;)

Thank you AmazingSam for dispelling some rumors about CLs. It is true that there are no perks, no free stuff, no Staff friends, no powers. All that the CL title shows is that you are a person that people could come to for help but it is also true that ANYONE can help.

If you are applying for CL simply for the badge, you are not the right material to become a CL so just stop that quest now.

Also, for those that say there are bad CLs out there . . . why are you not reporting them? If there is a serious problem don't excuse it just because someone is a CL, a bad player is still a bad player. BUT, be wary of reporting for silly things like a CL "ignoring" you because remember that computer problems happen. A person not responding to your questions could merely mean a computer problem and not rudeness.SpinMarty I agree with you. And I have reported them when they give me and attitude and boot me out of thier room for no reason everyone has a bad day sometimes. But I don't like that, of reporting all the time for not helping you. I can always find someone or a friend to help me. Anyway with all this helpers why do we need CL_ anyway?;)

i want to be one to help people be safe and enjoy the kingdom. and answer any questions they might have

same here!! :)

But you can do all that without th CL- title you can go to Contact Us in the main page and send all your Ideas. And you can help anyone anytime.

i want tobe one cause i want ppl to look up to me so i can help them and i can set a good example

some ppl just want all the advantages like getting sparrow suit it nuts

I totally agree! I never really wanted to be a CL. I think being one is no different than acting like one.

I agree totally with Neoteny. I like to help new players, but I don't really want to be a CL. I thought about it before, and I knew that you would be crashed down with friend requests and trade requests. It really makes no difference whether or not you're CL, because the only things that makes VMK different for you is your name, you get a new badge, and you get plenty of requests. (Don't forget about Staff friends) YOu know we already deal with this without the CL, anyway.

I totally agree! I never really wanted to be a CL. I think being one is no different than acting like one.
Except that not everybody who is a Community Leader acts like one.

Except that not everybody who is a Community Leader acts like one.

I know what you mean. There are a couple leaders I see who looks annoyed that someone asked them a question (Not about trading/friend requests. Regular questions about VMK) while I see other players who aren't leaders who are willing to answer any question thrown at them even though they keep asking them the same question over and over again.

Except that not everybody who is a Community Leader acts like one.

True, true.

I have yet to get a sparrow suit. :ththerethere6il: However, I have plenty of Davy Jones's organs if anybody needs one, lol.

How nice amazing, but you must admit, some members who want to be community leaders really do want to be one, and will really do good ;)

How nice amazing, but you must admit, some members who want to be community leaders really do want to be one, and will really do good ;)

lol, you'll do fine.

As for everybody else who believes in helping others without owning a CL_ badge, I'm happy that you feel that way. Like I said, it would be nice for every player in VMK to help each other out. :)

It's weird. Most, may I repeat *MOST*, CL's have rare stuff. But my friend GoldenToon - who has just quit - is pretty "normal" if you ask me.

And that's the other thing. You have to know when the time is that you want to quit being a leader, and if it's really worth quitting. There are signs, and I actually know those signs... but I'm not going to be a leader, even though I know the signs. (They gave me the "Newsletter" excuse.) I'm gonna let the current leaders find out those signs ;)

You know what's kinda funny about the Contact Us CL application thing is no matter how many times you do or when you do it it says you need more eperience in the kingdom. I just tried yesterday because of all the new CLs and it says i need more time in the kingdom. And guess what. I'm Beta!

You know what's kinda funny about the Contact Us CL application thing is no matter how many times you do or when you do it it says you need more eperience in the kingdom. I just tried yesterday because of all the new CLs and it says i need more time in the kingdom. And guess what. I'm Beta!

have you've gotton banned before? if yes, you can't be a CL

oh yeah, the banning rule... I was banned for 2 hours. Two long, long hours for saying I live on the **** (blocked for privacy purposes, by me me and me!) coast...
No wonder I got all 3 excuses: "Newsletter" update, not-enough-time and not-experienced excuses. Goodness 0_o

I'm adding this:
What's the point of community leaders? Everybody should help. Being a CL just means you have "a little more experience".
Really?
I asked a leader what all of the NPC's were once. He/she only said the ones before the Haunted Mansion. He/she didn't add those a minute later; she just was blank.
Plus, some leaders don't pitch in to help *period*. I had to go answering all the questions once while a CL just sat back on a bench.
I think I should shut up before I start really flaming.

Oh, and while I'm at it:
Once a guest (I could tell; she was all blank and kind of had a bad fashion sense :balloon: ) asked me what VMK was. Well, I took 10 minutes of my time to answer. I had gotten all the main stuff - not the extras, just quests, games, credits, etc. :ascol: - and she had to go. I was smiling so wide, my cheeks hurt :fireworks: :15_4_105: :mickbar:
ah, helping others feels soooooo good... sigh.

And I want to be a CL... now that I think about it, I don't care anymore.

It's weird. Most, may I repeat *MOST*, CL's have rare stuff. But my friend GoldenToon - who has just quit - is pretty "normal" if you ask me.
Something to consider is that many of the CLs were playing in beta times (like me) or soon afterwards. So, the fact that some have "rare" stuff is merely because they were there when it was originally available. Others (also like me) have traded for them, like any other player.

Sidenote: I was away from VMK for about 6 months and when I returned I had lost my CL title due to inactivity. lol

Cool thing is that it is now much easier to travel around VMK :)

Once a guest (I could tell; she was all blank and kind of had a bad fashion sense
Probably best not to see what I wear in VMK and I have been playing for a looong time. :paperbag:

most players want to become a cl because they get inferno

most players want to become a cl because they get inferno

That is untrue ... The only reason most CL's have inferno is because they are the most experienced players and so trade a lot and have been around longer to get the good deals and know all. ;) Not all CL's have inferno.. I have 2 and I am not one.