Disclaimer: As a precaution, I have put on my flame suit. I understand some of my posts on here are controversial, but I want some opinions on this situation. I have heard what I am posting from many people, so the views expressed in this post are not necissarily those of my own. Here we go.

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I believe VMK should do a activity report on CL's. Like something to see what CL's are online alot, and ones that arent.

If they aren't online alot, they might need to oust them. Harsh? Maybe. But it is time we get a fresh new set of CL's to replace the ones that arent active. It cant hurt the game, only make it better.

The CL's that are active alot, they stay. CL's that are very active definately stay.

I think by terminating the CL's who are not active very much will only help the game. That is, if they are replaced with player's who are productive, active, and take their job on VMK seriously.

I have quite a few CL's on my list. There are a few who are online alot. They stay. But, sadly, it's another story for the other CL's. They are not very active. At all. Alot of times I find myself searching the prefix CL_ on the popular guest rooms list, and the same rooms come up almost everytime.

Almost every week, I see a new CL. This is odd.

The bottom line is I think that VMK should do a report on activity of the CL's they have hired. The ones that arent active, let them go. But, only replace them with players who are well qualified.



Anyone think this would work? Comments and Reviews appreciated. :)

Yet, there is more to CL's than just the time they are on. Someone who can come on, even for a little bit, and make a difference and make someone smile is worth more than someone who wanted it only for the title and is on for hours in a private room. (Altough Cl's can spend time in there as well if they want. Hey, they are online at least) ;)

Now, if they have not logged on for like 2 months, we could wonder, however, this is why they have OVER 200 CL's in game.

Also, you may not find me in my room much. I LOVE to visit other rooms. Lately, I have opened my rooms and met many great people! So room list is not always ALL CL's on as well as who is on your list. (Can't have us all)

I have to say I see many CL's on. Just a few days ago I looked at my list and saw NOTHING but CL's all down the list.

Trust me...since it is not a paid job, there is no requirement to be on everyday and ALL day. But I can almost say there are always some on.

I understand what you are trying to say, and it makes sense BUT many do log on a lot! (Majority do)

Yes I agree I know some that haven't been on for months!!

Yo_oY

Yet, there is more to CL's than just the time they are on. Someone who can come on, even for a little bit, and make a difference and make someone smile is worth more than someone who wanted it only for the title and is on for hours in a private room. (Altough Cl's can spend time in there as well if they want. Hey, they are online at least) ;)

Now, if they have not logged on for like 2 months, we could wonder, however, this is why they have OVER 200 CL's in game.

Also, you may not find me in my room much. I LOVE to visit other rooms. Lately, I have opened my rooms and met many great people! So room list is not always ALL CL's on as well as who is on your list. (Can't have us all)

I have to say I see many CL's on. Just a few days ago I looked at my list and saw NOTHING but CL's all down the list.

Trust me...since it is not a paid job, there is no requirement to be on everyday and ALL day. But I can almost say there are always some on.

I understand what you are trying to say, and it makes sense BUT many do log on a lot! (Majority do)
I never did say there was a requirement to be on all the time. All I said was that they need to do a activity report, and find out what CL's arent active very much.

Wouldnt you agree that if they replaced a not-so-active CL with a extremely active CL it would make a difference? That's the point I am trying to get across here. :)

Wouldnt you agree that if they replaced a not-so-active CL with a extremely active CL it would make a difference? That's the point I am trying to get across here. :)

As long as that "active" CL is in it for the RIGHT reasons. And no, you did not say they had to be on all the time but you stressed how ofetn you were on and I just wanted to make sure you did not want ALL Cl's to have that much freedom.

As long as that "active" CL is in it for the RIGHT reasons. And no, you did not say they had to be on all the time but you stressed how ofetn you were on and I just wanted to make sure you did not want ALL Cl's to have that much freedom.
Thanks for letting me know. :)

I think I'll remove that to prevent confusion.

:)

Well, I'm pretty sure this IS the reason why we have over 200 CL's...JeannieV, you said you met some pretty nice people, well, don't you think they' made good community leaders? There are probably AT LEAST around 50 CL's that aren't as active as they should be, right? Why not replace them?

Well, I'm pretty sure this IS the reason why we have over 200 CL's...JeannieV, you said you met some pretty nice people, well, don't you think they' made good community leaders? There are probably AT LEAST around 50 CL's that aren't as active as they should be, right? Why not replace them?
Exactly. This is what I'm trying to get across to people. Its not just me that thinks this, its others, too. :)

VMK has already implemented this method. Those community leaders who have not been active for a long time, get their prefixes and badges taken away as soon as they log back in after a long time, and, as it is likely, new ones are brought in replacement. Besides, I only think the CL_ position is for those that qualify to help staff in their rooms and events, and that has always been my thought, because helping, anyone can do that. Instead, helping staff, you need the CL_ badge and prefix. I think this whole system was a great idea VMK had to avoid favoritism, because it's a fact that anyone can help in the game, but when staff needs help, and the other staff are not enough to fullify this, they would need to call some people, but if they called anyone at random, everyone would turn against them, instead, if they imply that you need to be a CL_, then they would avoid the scandal.
I agree with some of your points, although I didn't like you mentioned particular names, as other leaders who are often very active, but not on their rooms (they are around the game walking and helping), could feel hurt.

Also, I think they should investigate some of their leaders, as I believe it's better to remove those who don't help and use the CL_ status to show off, than to remove those who are less active but help often. I personally know a couple of leaders that don't help, and show off with their leader status, but nevertheless, they still have it.

Yet, there is more to CL's than just the time they are on. Someone who can come on, even for a little bit, and make a difference and make someone smile is worth more than someone who wanted it only for the title and is on for hours in a private room. (Altough Cl's can spend time in there as well if they want. Hey, they are online at least) ;)

Now, if they have not logged on for like 2 months, we could wonder, however, this is why they have OVER 200 CL's in game.

Also, you may not find me in my room much. I LOVE to visit other rooms. Lately, I have opened my rooms and met many great people! So room list is not always ALL CL's on as well as who is on your list. (Can't have us all)

I have to say I see many CL's on. Just a few days ago I looked at my list and saw NOTHING but CL's all down the list.

Trust me...since it is not a paid job, there is no requirement to be on everyday and ALL day. But I can almost say there are always some on.

I understand what you are trying to say, and it makes sense BUT many do log on a lot! (Majority do)
I agree with you. Though I have many CL_'s on my list who skip few weeks at a time. Yes, some leaders need to be let go ( the people i have not seen in months ).
We do need more leaders like -the ones I know-. They are on often and do not spend all their time locked up in their room.

Kaironzet, did you say they get their prefix and badge taken away AFTER they log back in after a long time? Well, there's a problem right there! I mean, what if they only come back for four months later or so? VMK could've replaced them during those four months! Does that make sense? Here's a better way to explain it:

Let's say I'm a Community Leader. I'd be CL_Annaso.

I don't go on VMK for four months. And during those four months, more guests and players have come and become better and better, and more CL's have been playing less and less. However, since VMK already has a handful of CL's, they can't get new ones. HOWEVER, once most of those CL's get back on, they can FINALLY replace them, when they really could've replaced and removed CL's during that four month period!

Tell me if THAT makes sense.

I like your idea. What would you consider for a CL_ to be active though? How long do you think they must be online for? When I first became a CL_ (Sept. something...I forget...) I worried that VMK might have a requirement for CL_'s to be online a certain amount of time a day. I quickly found out that VMK did not have a requirement, and was relieved. If VMK had some activity requirement, it might be a good idea. But of course, we all have different schedules, and different times that we are able to be online. Sometimes we can only be online for a couple minutes, and in that time we might want to do a quick change to a room, visit friends, or get credits. If there were to be a certain amount of hours each month that we would have to spend in a Public Area helping out, I think that would work for everyone. Send your idea to VMK using "Contact Us" sometime soon when you can, and see what they say. :princess: CL_MsFantasyGal

VMK has already implemented this method. Those community leaders who have not been active for a long time, get their prefixes and badges taken away as soon as they log back in after a long time, and, as it is likely, new ones are brought in replacement. Besides, I only think the CL_ position is for those that qualify to help staff in their rooms and events, and that has always been my thought, because helping, anyone can do that. Instead, helping staff, you need the CL_ badge and prefix. I think this whole system was a great idea VMK had to avoid favoritism, because it's a fact that anyone can help in the game, but when staff needs help, and the other staff are not enough to fullify this, they would need to call some people, but if they called anyone at random, everyone would turn against them, instead, if they imply that you need to be a CL_, then they would avoid the scandal.
I agree with some of your points, although I didn't like you mentioned particular names, as other leaders who are often very active, but not on their rooms (they are around the game walking and helping), could feel hurt.

Also, I think they should investigate some of their leaders, as I believe it's better to remove those who don't help and use the CL_ status to show off, than to remove those who are less active but help often. I personally know a couple of leaders that don't help, and show off with their leader status, but nevertheless, they still have it.
Well, really, those were just examples. I can't name every CL who is active, so I just named a few. I do appreciate all CL's, though. :)

Kaironzet, did you say they get their prefix and badge taken away AFTER they log back in after a long time? Well, there's a problem right there! I mean, what if they only come back for four months later or so? VMK could've replaced them during those four months!! Does that make sense?
They are unable to get your name changed while you're not on. They change it before, but it doesn't get officialy changed by the game until you are back on. Same happens with the bans to leaders and with those that decide to change their names. I think that's a bug they have, and it's perfectly the same that happens with the Guest Rooms names when you change them. Your friends won't see the change until they log off and back in to notice it.

I agree with some of your points, although I didn't like you mentioned particular names, as other leaders who are often very active, but not on their rooms (they are around the game walking and helping), could feel hurt.


I agree! You also made many great points. I hope this thread does not turn into all the people who "Want the title" versus those who do. Please avoid that here.

As Kairo said, I know CL's who have had their title revoked because they were no longer on.

Also, if you feel that a CL is not on enough to help (PLEASE consider time zone differences) then report them on vmk.com. There is still a "rep" system there. ;)

I like your idea. What would you consider for a CL_ to be active though? How long do you think they must be online for? When I first became a CL_ (Sept. something...I forget...) I worried that VMK might have a requirement for CL_'s to be online a certain amount of time a day. I quickly found out that VMK did not have a requirement, and was relieved. If VMK had some activity requirement, it might be a good idea. But of course, we all have different schedules, and different times that we are able to be online. Sometimes we can only be online for a couple minutes, and in that time we might want to do a quick change to a room, visit friends, or get credits. If there were to be a certain amount of hours each month that we would have to spend in a Public Area helping out, I think that would work for everyone. Send your idea to VMK using "Contact Us" sometime soon when you can, and see what they say. :princess: CL_MsFantasyGal
Thanks for the back up. I would consider a CL who has not been online for more than about a week and a half would not be active. Unless, that is, they have sent in something to VMK saying they are going on vacation, which is another thing VMK could implement. VMK hires CL's to help out in the game, and if they aren't active, I dont believe there is a reason for them to be a CL. It just takes the priveledge of being a CL away from someone else who is active alot. Just my opinion. :)

i think they should do that why dont you send VMK staff that?
i have a CL_ on my list. he has not been on since late march. CL_ are supposed to be on to help ppl in VMK if your are not on then you are not doing your job or duty.

Clusty, i think they should replace CL's that aren't on very often. bc a lot of ppl want to be a leader, and it's not fair if the leaders don't come on very often.

they should be graded on how often they come on and how good of a job they do. i'm the same i have, what, tree CL's on my friend list, I of them comes on only once a month, i only keep her bc she's nice.

i think it would improve the game if they let some of the 1's that don't come on very often a lot. also, it will make the list of ppl who want to be a leader a lot shorter.

getting rid of some leaders would be good i think, but that's just my opinion.

Ace

Kaironzet, did you say they get their prefix and badge taken away AFTER they log back in after a long time? Well, there's a problem right there! I mean, what if they only come back for four months later or so? VMK could've replaced them during those four months! Does that make sense? Here's a better way to explain it:

Let's say I'm a Community Leader. I'd be CL_Annaso.

I don't go on VMK for four months. And during those four months, more guests and players have come and become better and better, and more CL's have been playing less and less. However, since VMK already has a handful of CL's, they can't get new ones. HOWEVER, once most of those CL's get back on, they can FINALLY replace them, when they really could've replaced and removed CL's during that four month period!

Tell me if THAT makes sense.
It might not, but I believe they replace them while they are not on, but the change on the CL_ who got his/her name taken away is noticed when he/she gets on. That is exactly what makes the list longer. If all the leaders who are no longer active got on, then the list would decrease a lot.

Well maybe if the program they use to run VMK doesn't have a limit of leaders, they could STILL get new ones, depending on how long the REAL leaders are off, and when they come back on change their name or send them a message explaining why they are not a Community Leader anymore.


WAIT A SECOND!


Has any CL here EVER gotten an e-mail or something from VMK saying that if they weren't more active, they wouldn't be a CL anymore?

Well maybe if the program they use to run VMK doesn't have a limit of leaders, they could STILL get new ones, depending on how long the REAL leaders are off, and when they come back on change their name or send them a message explaining why they are not a Community Leader anymore.


WAIT A SECOND!


Has any CL here EVER gotten an e-mail or something from VMK saying that if they weren't more active, they wouldn't be a CL anymore?
I don't think so. They notice they are no longer CLs when they log back in, which is really a pain I believe. What you just said could be a wonderful idea. VMK could automate an e-mail that is sent to those who are not on for a certain period of time, notifying them they are not as active as they are expecting them to be, and that they should get on working already. If they, despite having an email sent to them, don't get active, they get their status removed. I think there should also be an option for those who won't be able to be on during a long period of time (moving houses, vacations, etc) to notify VMK of the issue so that they don't get their status removed.

Well maybe if the program they use to run VMK doesn't have a limit of leaders, they could STILL get new ones, depending on how long the REAL leaders are off, and when they come back on change their name or send them a message explaining why they are not a Community Leader anymore.


WAIT A SECOND!


Has any CL here EVER gotten an e-mail or something from VMK saying that if they weren't more active, they wouldn't be a CL anymore?

carlina101, id think they have ever gotten any e-mail like that before. they just keep their job u less they get banned, i'm pretty sure.

you should ask a leader just in case tho, lol

carlina101, id think they have ever gotten any e-mail like that before. they just keep their job u less they get banned, i'm pretty sure.

you should ask a leader just in case tho, lol
Uh... English please? I didn't understand a word of that post.

Well, I basically asked if any CL has ever gotten an e-mail explaining their absense in VMK might cause them to lose their position, yadah-yadah-yadah, bla-bla-bla, and then bommerlefty was explaining that probably never happened.

well if i were a CL_ and i got that message i would be kind of mad. but since they are not doing there job i think just take their CL_ job away why have the job if you are not doing it

sorry Clusty, i meant:

carlina101, id think leaders have ever gotten an e-mail like that, saying they are fired, they just keep their job unless they get banned, i'm pretty sure.

you shouls ask a leader to make sure tho, lol
Ace

I really hope a staff member will read this, they can read it without being a member. I feel like I'm talking to a wall with Contact Us, and if I dare get that automated "We will look in to it" message I might explode. Seriously.

well if i were a CL_ and i got that message i would be kind of mad. but since they are not doing there job i think just take their CL_ job away why have the job if you are not doing it

yea, i agree with trick_master completely.

why would you explode? do you think something bad will happen if they see this? id think anything will happen

Karo & Carlina have great ideas! An email would be a great warning device (I mean, we got one saying we were CL's BEFORE we got on the game) We could definitly get one saying "How" we are doing and getting our own personal "Activity reports". (Maybe even know if people sent nice things about us to contact us.)

And to say that we are on vacation or moving would help as well. It COULD work as long as people do not find it another "Bonus" of being a CL. Then those that are CL's now can improve if it is needed. :)

And if a Cl were to abuse the email privialge, then they are no longer a CL.

But then I wonder if this is making the CL "job" bigger than it really is.

Karo & Carlina have great ideas! An email would be a great warning device (I mean, we got one saying we were CL's BEFORE we got on the game) We could definitly get one saying "How" we are doing and getting our own personal "Activity reports". (Maybe even know if people sent nice things about us to contact us.)

And to say that we are on vacation or moving would help as well. It COULD work as long as people do not find it another "Bonus" of being a CL. Then those that are CL's now can improve if it is needed. :)

And if a Cl were to abuse the email privialge, then they are no longer a CL.
well if they are not on how are they going to receive the warning?

Karo & Carlina have great ideas! An email would be a great warning device (I mean, we got one saying we were CL's BEFORE we got on the game) We could definitly get one saying "How" we are doing and getting our own personal "Activity reports". (Maybe even know if people sent nice things about us to contact us.)

And to say that we are on vacation or moving would help as well. It COULD work as long as people do not find it another "Bonus" of being a CL. Then those that are CL's now can improve if it is needed. :)

And if a Cl were to abuse the email privialge, then they are no longer a CL.


jeanniev, are you a CL in vmk?? and if you are, you really got a e-mail saying you were a leader before the game started?! omg, how? @_@..

Uh... well I was the person who came up with the vacation message. Just wanted to clear that lol.

I have no idea what is taking them so long. They just work very slow sometimes. Example A: Contact Us. He He. :)

they should hire someone to work on just the contact us area of VMK. it takes so long for them to answer

jeanniev, are you a CL in vmk?? and if you are, you really got a e-mail saying you were a leader before the game started?! omg, how? @_@..

Remember, thay have our emails. Thats how you signed on and got the free 6 days or something of Toontown for joining.

well if they are not on how are they going to receive the warning?

The warning would be an email. Just because you are not on VMK, does not mean you are not online ;)

but i agree with you all! i think they just don't want to fire anyone.. that's all, bc i saw them do that in the news letter also!

they shouldn't say they're going to hire more ppl and fire some when they're not! that's lying!

oh ok jeannie i was confused there for a second