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Quibbles
06-15-2006, 02:48 PM
I was reading around on another site and look what i came across

Though not officially confirmed by Square or Disney, creator Tetsuya Nomura has openly admitted to having a plot for Kingdom Hearts III in the works and is planning to create it. Though, he has stated that he is working on another title first. Much like Kingdom Hearts II, Kingdom Hearts III's first look can be found in the secret trailer at the end of Kingdom Hearts II. The first look at the game shows some new, unknown characters and a whole lot of keyblades.

A message in a bottle with Mickey's emblem.

This form of teaser trailer was used in "Another Side, Another Story" and "Deep Dive". Two trailers secretly found in Kingdom Hearts and Kingdom Hearts: Final Mix which hinted at Kingdom Hearts II and eventually, we learned that it was a teaser to the backstory of Kingdom Hearts II. I feel the same tactic is being used here, why else would Square put this random trailer at the end of the game?

This secret trailer can be found by completing certain tasks within the game. On the hardest difficulty, you just need to beat it. That's reward enough, apparently.





What Happens in the Trailer ::.


First, lets start off with what we have gathered before the plot summary:

Setting: Believed to be before KH1, unconfirmed. In a deserty plain, hundreds of keyblades forming a crossroads. A great slain beast is seen that dissolves into dust.
Mood: Dark and dreary. The dark sky and dramatic music paint and picture of sorrow and unease.
Characters: Three keyblade weilding armoured figures; one shadowy figure. Armoured characters are new to series, some believe Xehanort is the dark one.


The secret trailer reveals to us a list of all of the Ansem Reports. I can't read Japanese, but it points out a few Reports in bolded, up front text that doesn't scroll by. It says Ansem Report 8 & 9 at the bottom. Ansem Report 8 talks about Xehanorts machind that creates Heartless, while 9 has a line that may hold great significance to the trailer. The line reads "The Keyblade is said to hold phenomenal power. One legend says its wielder saved the world, while another says that he wrought chaos and ruin upon it." Knowing that Kingdom Hearts explores more than one world, more than one side of the heart it is safe to say that maybe KH3 will deal with how the keyblade brings destruction, because it doesn't seem like the happiest trailer ever.

UPDATE (April 20/06): The English trailer has been released. The text that reads at the beginning along with the Ansem Reports reads:


"The Keyblade is said to hold phenominal power. One legend says it's weilder saved the world while another says that he wrought chaos upon it. I must know what this keyblade is. A key opens doors..."


It seems my previous assumptions were correct, it is referring to those Ansem Reports with a little added on I didn't expect.


Three soldiers.
The trailer brings us to a deserty plain with dark clouds over head. Three heavily armored soldiers are standing by a great beast that has been slain, which quickly erupts into dust and then nothing. Previous thoughts of it being a structure are false as it has feet, seen for mere seconds. The first soldier we see has chrome armor with a helmet that has rabbit-like earpieces. He wears a cape and holds a giant keyblade over his shoulder which is of an unfamiliar design.

To his right, another armoured figure walks towards him, also dawning a cape. This character has ear-pieces that shoot backwards, rather than up. The tinted eyepiece is the same as the first soldier, the eyes are unseen. This second charater has larger forearm armour and is relatively thinner. He is not carrying a weapon.

To the first soldiers left is a third character. Much like the first soldier in appearance but there is something about this third soldier that looks feminine. The walk or the figure makes this last character have a female touch. This character is carrying a keyblade as well.


Mickey or Kairi's Keyblade, Kingdom Key, Road To Dawn. The structure behind turns to dust.
As the three are close together, the first soldier moves towards three keyblades sticking out of the sand. The first keyblade in the line has been argued to be either Kairi's Keyblade used late in Kingdom Hearts II or Mickey's Keyblade, then there is The Kingdom Key, followed by Riku's Road To Dawn Keyblade. The fact that these three Keyblades are selected above all others predict great importance of the three heroes once again. Much thanks to the many people who have e-mailed me with corrections referring to the keyblades. When the soldier moves closer to them, the ruin he was standing on vanishes into dust. The soldiers pick up the keyblades, the two with the pointed "ears" weild two blades each, the one with "ears" pointing back picks up the Kingdom Key and is holding another Keyblade.

There is a quick pan outwards and it is revealed that there are hundreds upon hundreds of keyblades sticking out of the ground. It strongly resembles a graveyard. There are for pathes carved out, which have a striking resemblence to the crossroads from Chain of Memories. The crossroads proved as paths between light, dark, twilight (as DiZ said) and dawn (as Riku said). Each character in the trailer comes from a different path, indicating a different state of heart. It is clear the crossroads will play an important part in KH3.
Comparison of the crossroads visible in CoM and the secret trailer.

Suddenly, there is a distant rumble, almost like an explosion. The three look into the distance and through the haze of the heat, an outline can be seen of a figure. Then the following captions show up on screen:


"It all begins with birth by sleep."
"Master of Keyblade"

Speculation suggests this refers to the characters holding the Keyblades. Maybe they are fighting to find the true master?

"The Lost Two"

A popular belief is that this is commenting on two soldier characters who followed the path of darkness, using the Keyblade.

"Memory of Xehanort"

Possibly the biggest hint in the trailer. This almost reveals that the next game will deal largely with Xehanort's lost memories from before he met Ansem.

"Chasers"

The name we are giving the soldiers right now. It is very vague.

"Keyblade War"

May be a war that has passed or is coming. We believe it is the reason Xehanort loses his memory and it may in fact be the war to discover who the real Keyblade Master is.


The final text says, "It all begins...with birth by sleep."

This is very unknown, some believe it is another kind of Nobody or a story created while Sora was asleep for one year.



What Happens Next?? ::.


So, Kingdom Hearts II leaves us with Sora and friends home safe on Destiny Islands. All the evils are set straight, everyone is living in peace and harmony. Sora's adventure is over. With the fact that the ordeal is over, there is a chance that a new main character will come into play in Kingdom Hearts III. Also, considering the massive amounts of Keyblades found, it's entirely possible anyone could weild one.

Then again, after the credits are done rolling in KH2, Kairi runs out onto the beach with a letter in a bottle. It bares King Mickey's emblem on it. The three read the parchment with worried expressions, the camera never exposes the paper to show us what is on it. This is indication enough that Sora is being called off on another mission (starting to sound like James Bond).


WHAT WE KNOW
The characters are original and have not been seen in previous games. They are NOT Sora, Riku, Kairi.
There are a lot of keyblades, a war is coming or has passed.
The Crossroads are important.
Has something to do with the Keyblade bringing chaos.

WHAT WE DON'T KNOW
The identity of the armoured figures.
Who the distant outlined figure is.
The place in the Kingdom Hearts timeline this trailer takes place in.
What the text means by "birth by sleep".

Speculation from May 8, 2006

This was e-mailed to me by "Nos Lived" and friends. It's first suggestion is that the text "Memory of Xehanort" is not IN memory of him, but referring to his actual memory. Those who followed Ansem's backstory would know that he found Xehanort and brought him in, he didn't remember any of his past. This trailer, and game, could be explaining his lost memories and in fact be taking place before Kingdom Hearts 1.

This theory suggests there were several Keyblade Masters, I'm going to edit their assumptions to fit my own. The original theory is that there are five keyblade masters, I'm going to say there are four. Two went off into the darkness, bringing chaos and destruction to any world they touched. The other two were of Light and Twilight, of goodness and honor. When one of the dark masters realizes the evil in the darkness, they return through the path of Dawn, this is the same path Riku took when escaping the darkness. The three good masters meet in the crossroads and in the distance, they see a dark figure appear: the Dark Keyblade Master.

Xehanort may have been one of the Keyblade Masters, and this Keyblade War causes him to lose something dear: his memory. Escaping battle, he comes to the Radiant Garden war-torn and confused, Ansem takes him in and offers any assistance possible.

This is the strongest theory we have so far! Keep it up guys and thanks to Nos Lived and his friends for the insight!

Speculation from April 20, 2006

After seeing the english trailer, it becomes more clear of what may be going on. The Ansem Reports reveal a theory of the keyblade bringing chaos upon the world. And indeed in this scene the world ain't looking too good. In reference to birth by sleep it's a good guess that we're delving deeper into the "memories" that have been dealt with in all the games. A world created when Sora fell asleep perhaps? A theme that would be likely for Kingdom Hearts is alternate realities, where in another reality the keyblade destroys the world, not save it. This may be the theme of KH3. Check the theories for further answers to that.

Nick S. e-mailed me bringing up this interesting point: "The 3 Soliders/Chasers and the mystery Keyblade wielder came from different paths in the crossroads. This means a person from the light, dark, twilight, and dawn have come together to wield keyblades." His theory checks out, indeed the characters come from different paths to meet. What does this mean about the characters? It seems they have been seperated and they have distinct attributes about them and their hearts. Thanks, Nick!

Tetsuya Nomura also stated that these are new characters and the scene is set in the past, but also the future in a sense. A strong indicator we are dealing with another dimension where time does not align to Sora's world.


Speculation from March 7, 2006

The text at the end of the secret trailer says "Memory of Xehanort", so it could be that the guy isn't dead, yet. If that's the case he has more lives than a cat. But, in Square's Final Fantasy X, the nemesis, Seymour, took forever to die. He was reborn several, several times. Square is notorious for keeping their bad guys alive against all odds.

The reference to the "Lost Two" might refer to someone and their nobody. It may also refer to Sora and Riku. This is pretty unknown. It could be anything.

"The Chasers" is a pretty random term considering the other text. I believe that The Chasers are the soldiers who are seen in the trailer. Like the Nobodies, this is what they are referred to as. Off the top of my head, I'm going to guess that they "chase" keyblades, bringing them back to this dead land. Maybe for safety? And it's possible that they could never aquire Sora's. I'm betting, through the nature of the trailer, that these guys are bad. So, they may be another step up from Organization XIII, using XIII just as pawns. So from now on, I'm going to refer to the soldiers as Chasers.

With the end text refering to "birth by sleep" may refer to Sora's deep sleep between Chain of Memories and Kingdom Hearts II. During this time anything could happen that influenced the events of this trailer. Also, the depths of Kingdom Hearts II dig deeper when three parts of human existance are revealed by Ansem in his Other Reports. There is the body, soul, and heart. It is known the corrupt heart becomes a Heartless, the empty body becomes a Nobody, but what about the soul? It may in fact be an ingredient in creating a Nobody, but the soul may also become something else, something more powerful. The Chasers?


What are The Chasers? ::.


Arguably the most confusing part of the secret trailer is that the term "The Chasers" doesn't relate to anything we are aware of. So what or who is a Chaser?

At first, it seemed that the soldiers in the trailer are "Chasers" who we thought chased either Sora, Hearts, Kingdom Hearts or something else. These mysterious beings fit the bill alright.

Further studying suggests something different...

E-mails and researching dictionaries suggests that "Chasers" are those who CREATED the Keyblades. Here is a definition from Dictionary.com:

One who decorates metal by engraving or embossing.


Other unconfirmed sources have had alternating definitions of a "Chaser". Could the soldiers in the trailer be the creators of the Keyblades? Could this deserty plain be the place where Keyblades are crafted? There are many different Keyblades as we have seen, so this maybe the ultimate warehouse for them.

The creators of the Keyblades may be good and evil which would explain Keyblades being delivered to different people by different Masters, assuming these armoured figures are masters of Keyblades. Perhaps they give the power of the Keyblade to selected disciples, one chooses Sora, and after that, the Keyblade is bound to him.

This would explain much about where the Keyblades come from, why they are such a powerful weapon, etc.


Active Theories ::.


Theory #9: The story takes place just before KH1 and deals with Xehanorts lost memories before he meets Ansem. Also, the characters are keyblade masters from different paths.

Verdict: It does make sense with the "Memory of Xehanort" line. This is currently our strongest theory.

Theory #5.5: An altered version of Theory 5, this time by Nos Lived suggest that the Chasers are not the soldiers, but are early Heartless, before being named Heartless. They were known as those who "chased" hearts.

Verdict: Chasers could be anything, it just seems suitable to be put as the soldiers. I doubt Square would confuse us by giving Heartless two names, but it's a strong theory.

Theory #3: The story is completely unrelated. Could be a spin-off.

Verdict: Possible, but unlikely. It could be that since Sora's adventure is over, another person adventure could begin. Also, being a keyblade war, it's possible the new title could be just a spin-off. A fighting game or hack-n-slash? More support comes from Tetsuya Nomura who states the featured characters are completely new faces.

Theory #4: The "birth by sleep" line refers to a new story of beings created by Sora during his sleep. Taking place within Sora's mind as he sleeps, hence the "birth by sleep". Born within Sora's dreams.

Verdict: Again, possible. The soldiers could be representations of Sora, Riku and Kairi overcoming the locked and lost memories caused by Naminé. Their faces are not shown either to keep people guessing or because Sora's memories are so scattered that he can't recall faces, so the figures are represented as soldiers.

Theory #5: The things "born by sleep" are another form of Heartless or Nobody, but since the soul is such a powerful thing, it's creation out of darkness is much stronger. A "Chaser" refering to a soul chasing a body or purpose. The main villain could be Xehanort's chaser.

Verdict: From the trend the games have been setting, it seems possible that another form of humans could be converted to darkness, but this type of creature would be repetative and something Square probably wouldn't want to do. Then again, it keeps the storyline straightforward, and Xehanort's altered versions are bad guys in each game so it may continue?

Theory #6: The game takes place in an alternate reality where the Keyblade is a weapon of destruction and evil, not good. Either Ansem or Mickey travels to this world to end the chaos.

Verdict: This type of theme would be something to expect from a game like Kingdom Hearts which can throw twists like this. Indeed the reference to the Keyblade being good and evil has come up often in the series and will be dealt with further. The keyblades evil tendencies will be revealed in the next game for sure. Whether or not we'll see Ansem or Mickey travelling to another dimension is still pretty unknown.

Theory #8: This trailer is actually advertising a Kingdom Hearts CGI movie, much like Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children. (submitted by Mayura)

Verdict: Square did it with Final Fantasy, it could be done again here. Lets hope it's a game at least.


Dead Theories ::.


Theory #1 (theory busted!): The trailer is a flashback to long before Sora's adventure. The keyblades are wiped out in the "war" and that's why it's so difficult to aquire one.

Verdict: This theory is false. I heard this on a message board. It's an interesting theory but it isn't true. In KH2 it becomes clear that more than one person can weild a keyblade, so it would be logical that more and more people would have them later, rather than soon. Also, it mentions the memory of Xehanort who is defeated in the end of Kingdom Hearts II. Therefore, logic says that this must take place after KH2.

Theory #2: The three "chasers" are Sora, Kairi, Riku.

Verdict: Kingdom Hearts Ultimania posted an interview with creator Tetsuya Nomura who stated that the characters were not in fact Sora, Kairi, or Riku and were three completely new characters.

Theory #7: (from visitor TGK): I have found a pic of Sora online that you might want to take a look at. It shows Sora in a red suit and says "the king" at the bottom. I think that this might mean that all the events in the trailer could take place long after Sora's death. Sora may have been involved with a war using the keyblades.

Verdict: The image talked about was not included because it is fan art and we don't have the rights to it. But, the red suit is Sora's Valor form from Kingdom Hearts II and "The King" reference is just a nickname by the artist. The game could take place after Sora's death, but that wouldn't be related to his suit. Besides, this is a Disney produced game, killing the main character is definitely not like them, something they wouldn't let Square-Enix get away with. The kids, they'd cry.
Release Information ::.

I can bet you that we'll be seeing a Kingdom Hearts III on Playstation 3. Why? Because PS2 is in it's final days, Playstation 3 is sceduled for release later this year and Square takes forever to develop games so either this will be an incredibly outdated game on a dead PS2 or an incredibly new one on a powerful PS3.

If it's on the Playstation 3, you can bet there will be some oustanding graphics, larger scale battles and high definition picture! Expect Square to make the best of this and we'll be able to see every reflection of these "Chasers" armor in-game as well as twice as many enemies on screen at once as in Kingdom Hearts II. WOW!

Then again, Square is releasing Final Fantasy XI on Xbox 360, it's possible they could switch partners to Microsoft. This might be a bad business move since the Xbox isn't very popular in Japan and given that Kingdom Hearts is HUGE in Japan, Square will probably keep it to PS2. Phew.

As for a release date. Well, let's look at Square's track record. We saw the secret KH2 trailer after the first game in 2002. Then Square officially announced the game a year later. So that's about 2003, then they delayed it several times until they finally pinned down March 2006 for the release. That's FOUR years after the first game, people. And now, on PS3, they will have to start from the ground up getting used to developing for a new, more powerful system. Square will have to create a brand new graphics engine and battle system. That should take quite a bit of time, but don't complain, quality takes time, the more time taken, the better KH3 will be.

KH2 was delayed because game director Tetsuya Nomura was working on multiple projects such as KH: CoM and FFVII Advent Children. He has said that he will be working on another, unrelated game before Kingdom Hearts III. Check out my calculations:
Developing new graphics engine + new battle sytem + switching platforms + delays + possible delays of PS3 + other stuff = 4+ years.

I'm going to estimate we will see some previews of Kingdom Hearts III in 2008, then we'll see a release in 2011 at the earliest. WHOA! That's far off. But think, it's only five years. Let's all wish for sooner, and put some coffee on while at it.

Pretty Pictures:

http://i6.************/14in2w8.jpg a message in a bottle with Mickey's Emblem

http://i5.************/14in3p4.jpg Three Soldiers

http://i6.************/14in4ia.jpg Mickey or Kairi's keyblade, Kingdom Key, Road to Dawn. The structure behind them turns to dust

http://i6.************/14in6nb.jpg Comparison of the crossroads visible in CoM and the secret trailer

http://i6.************/14in79k.jpg It all begins with birth by sleep

http://i5.************/14in97m.jpg


This page concentrates on what we believe to be the strongest and most likely possibilities for the story behind the secret trailer in Kingdom Hearts II and the plot in Kingdom Hearts III. It's not confirmed by anyone and is mere speculation. Viewer Nos Lived inputed much of this information.

Years before Sora's adventure, there was a great war. In a place between worlds, there were those known as "Chasers", those who had manifested great power and chanelled it through weapons they experly crafted known as the Keyblades. There were four Chasers.

The Chasers all had to power to create, save, destroy and lock world's hearts. Their keyblade gave them enough power to unlock the energy of a worlds physical heart and be able to move from world to world.

The Chasers began to follow their own ambitions. In the place between worlds, where all of their keyblades laid to rest, the four seperated. Two followed the path of light, bringing life to the worlds, following the paths of Light and Twilight. The other two, they grew unhappy and decided that those who did not respect them should perish. They followed the path of Darkness. They began to bring destruction to worlds, destroying them.

One of the two Dark Chasers realized the faults in his ways and decided to back out. Much as Riku did, this Chaser follows the path of Dawn back to the Crossroads where he is forgiven for his ways. The final Chaser, the one they called Xehanort, would not give up, would not give in. The war began, it is unknown for how long this terrible time lasted. It has been recorded though and the Chasers are much like gods.

The war was either between great armies or just between the four Chasers, either way, the Dark Chaser, the Dark Keyblade Master known as Xehanort fought against the others in a great Keyblade war.

Xehanort was defeated, and with that, he lost something dear: his memory. Cast away he was born again by sleep. Waking up in the world of Radiant Garden, almost dead, a great Saint known as Ansem found him and offered his assistance. He promised to help him and when he realized the man's memory was gone, he offered to help restore it.

The Chasers each had the ability to spread their power to a disciple or their spirits lived on through a bloodline or chosen ones. Passing their power on to make sure to Order of the Worlds was kept safe.

One Keyblade went to the King of all the Worlds: Mickey.

When Xehanort began to believe he was in fact Ansem, his fascination with the Keyblades grew. Unknowning even to himself who he was.

When the Heartless were born and began to create chaos, Riku was chosen to weild the next Keyblade, to save the people from destruction while Mickey was in the World of Darkness. But, Riku's heart was tainted by his willingness to let darkness overcome him and the Keyblade was passed on to Sora.

After being selected first and later overcome by Xehanort, Xehanort was able to harvest his power to reclaim his Dark Keyblade and thus, Riku was able to have his own.

The final Keyblade was unnecessary until later, when the goodness and innocence of Kairi was able to bring hope to the other Keyblade Weilders and she too was chosen.

Roxas only had ones because he is an element of Sora.

After their adventures had ended, Mickey sends a troubling letter to Sora, Kairi and Riku. A letter that reveals Xehanort's next plot. That he has perhaps remembered his true self. A plot to destroy the other Chasers, a plot to be the one and only Keyblade Master.

A great beast is sent to the Crossroads between worlds but is slain by one of the Chasers. The others appear from their selected paths and reclaim their Keyblades, as though they haven't been touched in a long time. They look to the road of Darkness and the shady figure of Xehanort moves forward. Through his time within Riku, he is essentially "reborn" and while Riku tries to remove him, he is never gone. With enough power he returns to the Crossroads and a great war is about to begin once again. One that will decide the fate of the Chasers and all of those who hold a Keyblade...

Oranges
06-15-2006, 02:56 PM
Wowza. This is probably one of the longest posts ever. It took me a while to read...LOL.

I played the first and second Kingdom Hearts, but quite frankly, I think in this "KH3" that they're starting to stray away from Disney concepts. It looks like it's starting to become more of an "Everquest" type game. I think more people had fun with it being involved with Disney than the "dungeons and dragons" form it's starting to take now.

Quibbles
06-15-2006, 03:01 PM
Yes but on the same site i was reading about possible worlds for KH3 and they dont r eally seem to go with this...


Pixar Worlds



Pixar worlds are an absolute in Kingdom Hearts III. Previously, modern-classics like "Finding Nemo" and "Toy Story" were not featured in Kingdom Hearts because, despite the Disney name, were registered with Pixar, a seperate company. But since the development of Kingdom Hearts II, Disney finally bought Pixar. As a result, all Pixar characters and movies are under the Disney Empire and due to their critical and commercial success, it would be a missed opportunity not to have these characters featured in the next game.


Toy Story - "Andy and/or Sid's Room"



With new ownership over Pixar, we may see a new level where Sora and Co. are the size of toys, much like when you shrink in Wonderland in the first game.


The Incredibles - "Nomanisan Island"



Everyone remembers the secretly evil island from the Incredibles where the super-family spring back into action to take down the nasty Syndrome. It wouldn't be a long shot to say that Sora, Donald and Goofy might don some tights and help the family out in the next game.


The Hunchback of Notre Dame



A world and characters that were heavily requested in Kingdom Hearts II but never made the cut. We may expect some appearances in the next game.


"100 Acre Wood"



The one world in both Kingdom Hearts and Kingdom Hearts II where no Heartless roam. In this world the player simply plays through simple mini-games. This has proved to be popular, especially since it is completely optional and provides a good game for younger players. Since it came back in KH2, it's likely it will come back once again.


"Olympus Colisseum"



The tournaments on the Olympus world have been favorites of fans since the first KH game. Being one of the most visited world in any of the games, it would be unheard of to exclude it from the next game.


New World - "Sand World"



The world visible in the Secret Trailer at the end of Kingdom Hearts II may be a world in the next title, considering the World That Never Was from Kingdom Hearts II was featured in the Secret Trailer from the first Kingdom Hearts.


"Hollow Bastion/Radiant Garden"



Being the very most important world in both Kingdom Hearts and Kingdom Hearts II, being the root of all evil and good, it's quite likely that it will play another large part in the next game. Probably being the world that is safe to return to at any time full of shops like Traverse Town or Twilight Town.


"Destiny Islands"



Since this is where the characters were last left off, it's almost impossible for the game to not begin here. And with the game likely being on Playstation 3, it's an excellent place to present the amazing new graphics. A world full of palm trees, sand, water, a nice sunset/rise and a quite little village.

rockclimbing
06-15-2006, 03:03 PM
oh my gosh this is very good information new places new characters so is there any bad part about it since i read half of it

Quibbles
06-15-2006, 04:07 PM
you should probably read the whole post

Churo
06-15-2006, 04:15 PM
youve outdine yourself Quibbles that is awesome

ChoPotter
06-15-2006, 04:20 PM
I'm too lazy to read it but.......that is some good stuff! Maybe...just maybe...it will become ff like games.........wow...that would be...weird, yet sweet!

Quibbles
06-15-2006, 04:23 PM
read the third post, with the list of the possible worlds it seems as if there are 2 sides of the game... >.<
^^

rockclimbing
06-15-2006, 04:25 PM
Q im way to lazy to read the whole thing but the half part i read was very good information

ps. are you on? cause bout the Joke Contest i won i need me prize LOL

Quibbles
06-15-2006, 04:26 PM
Q im way to lazy to read the whole thing but the half part i read was very good information

ps. are you on? cause bout the Joke Contest i won i need me prize LOL
>.<
^^

i forgot about the joke contest lol ill get on..

snowbird
06-15-2006, 04:42 PM
i am stuck on KH2 where you have to defeat The Oragnzion 13 member at beast castle i can't do it it is too hard

Channyman
06-15-2006, 04:47 PM
wow you are a good writer!

Misskayla
06-15-2006, 04:54 PM
Wow cant wait to see it! I just beat kh2 and yet not kh1 .......but I dont care if they make 100 Kh games!! Im getting them ALL!!

Quibbles
06-15-2006, 06:31 PM
Here are some more pictures i found:

http://i6.************/14j3w2r.jpg The " Chaser " trio

http://i6.************/14j3xvb.jpg A Mysterious figure

http://i6.************/14j3yo7.jpg A keyblade Graveyard

http://i5.************/14j3z0i.jpg The three keyblades

http://i6.************/14j3zac.jpg a " Chaser " approaching the keyblades

http://i6.************/14j411f.jpg A " Chaser " with the Kingdom Key

http://i5.************/14j41f6.jpg Another " Chaser "

http://i5.************/14j426s.jpg Another " Chaser "

http://i6.************/14j42gg.jpg Another " Chaser "

http://i6.************/14j42og.jpg A " Chaser's " hand

http://i6.************/14j449f.jpg the " Chaser " trio

Quibbles
06-15-2006, 06:39 PM
Ansem Report 1
Much of my life has been dedicated to the pursuit of knowledge. That knowledge has guarded this world well. Not a soul doubts that. I am blessed with my people's smiles and respect.

But though I am called a sage, there are things I do not understand.

I believe that Darkness sleeps in every heart, no matter how pure. Given the chance, the smallest drop can spread and swallow the heart. I have witnessed it many times.

Darkness..
Darkness of the Heart.

How is it born?
How does it come to affect us so?

As ruler of this world, I must find the answers.

I must find them before the world is lost to those taken by the Darkness.



Ansem Report 2
The experiments caused the test subjects hearts to collapse, including those of the most stalwart. How fragile our hearts are!

My treatments proved no signs of recovery.

I confined those who had completely lost their hearts beneath the castle. Sometime later, I went below and was greeted by the most strangest sight.

Creatures that seemed born of Darkness.

What are they? Are they truly sentient beings? Could they be the shadows of those who lost their hearts to my experiments?



Ansem Report 3
The shadows that craw beneath the castle..

Are they people who lost their hearts, or incarnations of Darkness?

Or something entirely beyond imagination?

All my knowledge has provided no answer.

One thing that I am sure of is that they are entirely devoid of emotion. Perhaps further study will unlock the mysteries of the heart.

Fortunately, there is no shortage of test samples.

They are multiplying underground even as I write this report.

They still need a name.

Those who lack hearts..
I will call them the Heartless



Ansem Report 4
The Heartless appear in groups, and are multiplying rapidly. I've provided them both living and nonliving samples. They've responded only to the living. They seem to multiply after absorbing something from the living creatures. Their prey vanishes without a trace.

I believe the Heartless are taking hearts. They are born from those who've lost their hearts, and thrive on hearts seized from others. The hearts taken by the heartless become Heartless themselves.

Though I lack proof, I am confident in this hypothesis. I must also study their behavioral principles.

Though they lack emotions, they do seem to have some intelligence. How to communicate with them?

It's just occurred to me: Could they be the darkness in people's hearts?



Ansem Report 5
To study the Heartless behavior, I picked one out for observation. It wiggled its antennae and, as if sensing a target, headed deep into the castle.

In the deepest part of the castle, its antennae began vibrating, as if searching for something.

Suddenly, a strange door appeared. I'd never known of its existence.

I had a large keyhole, but didn't seem to be locked. So, I opened the door.

What I saw on the other side mystified me.

What was that powerful mass of energy?

That night I observed a great meteor shower in the sky.

Could it be related to the door that I have opened?



Ansem Report 6
A massive core of energy lay beyond the door sought by the Heartless. It may be the ultimate goal of the Heartless. But what is that energy? I have devised a hypothesis, based upon my observations of the Heartless.

The Heartless feed on other's hearts, and they yearn for that energy core. That thing beyond the door must be a heart, too--the heart of this world. There is no proof, but, having felt that immense energy, I am certain. That was the heart of the world.

The Heartless are trying to take hearts not only from all living creatures, but from the planet itself. But what do they mean to do with the heart of the world?



Ansem Report 7
I am studying material from the meteors that rained down that fateful night. What a find! The material is foreign to our world. It is elastic to the touch, and when two pieces are combined, they bond easily.

None of the records even mention such a substance. Was it introduced to this world when I opened the door? I wonder how many other such materials drift through the atmosphere of this tiny world... I wish I could soar off and find out!

Could there be uncharted worlds up there? My curiosity never ceases to grow. But I should stop speaking of such unrealistic dreams. For now, there is no way to venture outside this world. My people and I are all but prisoners of this tiny place.



Ansem Report 8
There is no doubt that the Heartless are deeply connected to the people's hearts. Further study may unravel both their motivations and the mysteries shrouding the heart. As a start, I have built a device that artificially creates Heartless.

By recreating the conditions that spawn the Heartless naturally, I should be able to produce them artificially. This device is the culmination of all my research thus far. The machine's test run successfully created a Heartless. This may be a step toward creating a heart from nothing.

The artificially and naturally created Heartless showed nearly identical traits. But the two types remain distinct for the purpose of the experiment. So, I will mark the ones that are created artificially.



Ansem Report 9
Simply astonishing! Today I had a guest from another world. He is a king, and his vessel is built of the material that composed the meteors. He called the pieces "gummi blocks." It seemed that my opening the door has opened a path to interworld travel.

We talked for countless hours, but one story in particular caught my interest: that of a key called the "Keyblade." The Keyblade is said to hold phenomenal power. One legend says its wielder saved the world, while another says that he wrought chaos and ruin upon it.

I must know what this Keyblade is. A key opens doors. It must be connected to the door I have opened.



Ansem Report 10
Just as people have hearts, so do worlds. The same can be said of stars in the night sky. And deep within each world lies a door to its heart. The Heartless desire those hearts. Born out of darkness in people's hearts, they seek to return to a greater heart. Yes that's it. The Heartless come from people's hearts, as does the darkness.

Is the core of the world's heart the world of the Heartless? I will pursue the answer there and become all knowing. My path is set. I shall seek out the wielder of the Keyblade, and the princesses.

My body is too frail for such a journey, but I most do this.

I will cast it off and plunge into the depths of darkness.



Ansem Report 11 (found only in Kindom Hearts: Final Mix)
In opening the door that stores a world's hearts, the wall around that world is broken down. We see this as a shooting star. Through this, I have been able to understand the reason why the material known as Gummi Blocks has the ability to allow travel to other worlds.

The cause of a world's wall collapsing is the appearance of the Heartless, but finding a world's door takes time. And robbing a world of its heart is a similar case.

If the door has been closed by the key known as the Keyblade, you probably cannot reach that world's heart again. Before the one with the Keyblade appears in this world, I must take measures to do something.

Supposing that there is a close relationship between the Princesses and the Keyblade, it seems likely that they will resonate with each other...

I have chosen one special girl. I do not know if she possesses a power like that of the Princesses. But, there is a chance, and this is an experiment. She may lead me to the place where the one holding the key is...

I shall send her off to the ocean of other worlds.



Ansem Report 12 (Only in Final Mix)
I have transcended to an existence of only the heart. I should have come back as a Heartless, but there is no sign of such a transformation.

My body has surely perished. However, I am different from the other Heartless, keeping the memories of before, and I have not taken on the form of a Heartless. It is clear that there are still many things to be studied.

In order to cross over to the dark side, which is not this world, you must go beyond the door of Kingdom Hearts, the place connected to the world's heart.

The innermost part connected to the world's heart, the place connecting to the world of darkness. (I will record the details in another report...)

There are still so many unknown worlds.

The present world. The world of darkness. The world of light.

And, The world in-between.

Where does the true paradise lie, I wonder?



Ansem Report 13 (Only in Final Mix)
When the heart casts off the flesh, where does the body go?

Heart and soul are separate, and the spirit remains in the body. But can we assume that the leftover body and soul perish?

Certainly when the heart changes into a Heartless the body disappears.

However, that is only this world's story; in another world, mightn't they change forms like the Heartless and exist there?

If we take that to be the case, there must be a you other than yourself existing somewhere.

An existence neither of darkness nor of light. An in-between existence.
Cast off by the heart, a mere shell, one who begrudges both the darkness and the light.

This mystery cannot be easily resolved. The relationship between the heart and the flesh is a complex one.

But since we exist here, they cannot be termed as existent.

Therefore I shall call them...

"The non-existent ones."






Although these dont have anything to do with KH3 i found the 11th 12th and 13th Ansem Reports very interesting

snowbird
06-15-2006, 07:08 PM
anyone got hints on how to defeat the oraganzation 13 member in beast castle i just can't do it i have done it 100 times and not even got it

Quibbles
06-15-2006, 07:16 PM
here is a walkthrough of Beast's Castle, hope this helps


After the cutscene you will have to battle some HEARTLESS. Once their
defeated save the game and exit through the door you came in. Head
up the stairs and enter through the right door into Bell's room.
After the cutscene get the map from the large chest.

Next backtrack to the HALL and enter through the oposite door. In the
corner of the hall you will see a wardrobe backing a door. Move it by presssing
trangle while its asleep, though be carefull, it was cointuesly wake up and
whenit does try and be as far away as possible. Once its moved enter the next
area through the door.

- Don't forget to open the various treasure chests in these rooms. -

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- 6: Boss - Gate Guardian -----------------------------
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- Build up your DRIVE then attack the door man using -
- BRAVE FORM. Once he looses his health bar he will -
- become some ball thing. Once this looses its HP, it -
- will die. -
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Go through the door the HEARTLESS was guarding and watch the cutscene. Open the
big chest to get another MAP and go back to the previous room. Climb the boxes
then talk to CLOGSWORTH and he will move the men at the door's for you. Then go
through the door.

In the next room use the KEYBLADE to light the lanterns and destroy any crates
in the way. After the cutscene go through the new door and then through the
next. Continue until you reach another door.

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- 7: Boss - Beast -----------------------------
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- Continuously use your REACTION COMMAND until he is -
- defeated. Simple really. -
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After the cutscene BEAST will join your party, open the chest in this room
and then head back to BELL's ROOM, in the room talk to WARDROBE.
Once you have done that go back to the ENTRENCE HALL and take the middle
door to go to the BALL ROOM.

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- 6: Boss - Dark Stalker -----------------------------
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- Lock on and use ether the REACTION COMMAND or SORA -
- and BEAST's Co-Op move, this boss has 2 forms so -
- don't waist any items, but also watch out for his -
- attacks as they can be deadly to you. -
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- 6B: Boss - Dark Stalker -----------------------------
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- Give this boss everything you have got, and use all -
- your items if needed and eventually he will die. -
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Qui-gon
06-15-2006, 07:47 PM
Hmm...nice info and theories. I guess you'll just have to wait and see! ;)

~Q/S

snowbird
06-15-2006, 07:58 PM
i still get my but kicked by te stupid thing anyone got like a hint on where and when and anything to help me even with mickey bringing me back i can't do it lol

Zero0911
06-16-2006, 12:44 PM
u couldn't......wat lvl do u have it on? i lost but i had mickey to go beat him up then i finish him off but mickey got his bottom kick also cause i never used him before. Oh but alot of items on and armor. Oh and for the key blade that might be the kings or kairi, i think it the king cause kairi key blade has flowers on it.