View Full Version : Disney to Offer Tamer Version of Mission Space


Middiebear
05-02-2006, 10:22 PM
Changes are about to happen to Epcot's Mission: Space attraction this summer according to my local news...

According to them... Mission: Space will feature 2 DIFFERENT versions...

One:

The Original attraction, which features 2 G's...

Two:

A new TAMER version to feature NO G's...

Here... Now there's no reason to complain... and NOW the ride is truly for EVERYONE visiting Epcot...

Pinkdust
05-02-2006, 10:23 PM
awesome.. i'm gald they did something about it :D

futuremartymcfly
05-02-2006, 10:25 PM
well, my mom and brother will like that

swimmingemma49
05-02-2006, 10:25 PM
WHAT?!?!?! No fair. This just shows people that they can get what they want by whining. The G's make the ride...

granacci
05-02-2006, 10:27 PM
Now everyone Can be happy :)

Schmoofy
05-02-2006, 10:31 PM
They better not mess with every simulator, that ride rocked. I was hoping when the ride first opened, they might do something with each of the 4 simulators, such as this-


Green-Extreme Ride System
Yellow-Normal Ride System (No G's)
Red-Normal Ride System (No G's)
Blue-Extreme Ride System


Just to keep everyone happy.

Middiebear
05-03-2006, 12:06 AM
WHAT?!?!?! No fair. This just shows people that they can get what they want by whining. The G's make the ride...

Remember...

The Original attraction will still be used...

This is just an extra option people can use if they are unsure if they can handle the G forces...

matterhornmaniac
05-03-2006, 01:39 AM
No G's? then whats the point? why dedicate a simulator to watching a poorly produced ride film and pushing buttons? the whole point of the ride is to get the sensation of a rocket launch. i understand they're doing this for people who want to ride but don't want to get sick, but they really shouldn't waste a simulator to do this. just buld an extension to the buliding that has similar, stationary capsules that show the same movie as the actual ride.

DISCUSS

figmentisback
05-03-2006, 01:46 AM
This rumor has been around since they previewed the attraction...

There is a slim change Disney asked the imagineers to tweek the ride... but untill we find out (like a Press release where it says 2 Gs or 1.5 Gs rather than the real amount) it is only speculation. The rumor i heard was one of the bays is currently closed for a test...

CaptainZeke
05-03-2006, 01:48 AM
2 G's? I thought it was 4 originally... If that's true, the ride's going to be messed up. :(

disneyrocks
05-03-2006, 01:51 AM
Wouldn't this cause the lines to be more packed?

itsAPRIL
05-03-2006, 02:00 AM
I don't live in WDW, but I have a question, What are 'G's.' ?

matterhornmaniac
05-03-2006, 02:07 AM
here's an article about the report in case anyone is interested to read more about it http://www.local6.com/news/9148771/detail.html



i believe the ride has always been 2 G's, but i could be wrong. somebody else may be able to give a definitive answer



G's are forces placed upon on object due to earth's gravity plus acceleration. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gee_force this link could probably explain it better

itsAPRIL
05-03-2006, 02:12 AM
Oh, so G's are forces that push on you to make you feel pressure and the speed of the coaster ?

Middiebear
05-03-2006, 02:18 AM
I'm really confused as to why people are opposed to this idea???...

Disney will still be offering the Original attraction, G forces included...

If you don't like the idea of riding without any G forces then don't ride that version, ride the Original...

I guess you really CAN'T make everybody happy...

matterhornmaniac
05-03-2006, 02:24 AM
I don't have a problem with Disney offering this new feature. I welcome it in fact. At the time of my initial post, I had a problem with Disney using their resources poorly. But the more I think about it, it makes much more sense to turn off one of their simulators for those who want to experience the ride, but are unsure if they can handle it. Correct me if i'm wrong, but Mission:Space has a high GPH ratio so doing this wouldn't affect the queue time too much. I assume they'll turn the fast pass line or single rider line into the "tame" line

Middiebear
05-03-2006, 02:31 AM
Yes... Mission: Space can handle MANY people per hour...

So much, that it can afford shutting down one or two centrifuges without affecting wait times by much...

Of course... We will only now how it will play out when Disney debuts this version this summer...

Poseidon
05-03-2006, 03:41 AM
I'm half for this idea and half not, it won't slow the lines as much, but it will certainly slow the lines. Of course, there's no way you can complain if you get sick after going on the 2 G section. So that'll decrease a bit. :Tongue:

PirateTod
05-03-2006, 03:43 AM
NOOOOOO They Messed With My Ride!!!! How Could They *Humph* :P

MACPlink
05-03-2006, 03:45 AM
No G's? then whats the point? why dedicate a simulator to watching a poorly produced ride film and pushing buttons? the whole point of the ride is to get the sensation of a rocket launch. i understand they're doing this for people who want to ride but don't want to get sick, but they really shouldn't waste a simulator to do this. just buld an extension to the buliding that has similar, stationary capsules that show the same movie as the actual ride.

DISCUSS
Exactly. I completely agree.

PirateTod
05-03-2006, 03:48 AM
No G's? then whats the point? why dedicate a simulator to watching a poorly produced ride film and pushing buttons? the whole point of the ride is to get the sensation of a rocket launch. i understand they're doing this for people who want to ride but don't want to get sick, but they really shouldn't waste a simulator to do this. just buld an extension to the buliding that has similar, stationary capsules that show the same movie as the actual ride.

DISCUSS
I Could Not Have said it Better Myself!!

LordIllidan
05-03-2006, 03:50 AM
No G's? then whats the point? why dedicate a simulator to watching a poorly produced ride film and pushing buttons? the whole point of the ride is to get the sensation of a rocket launch. i understand they're doing this for people who want to ride but don't want to get sick, but they really shouldn't waste a simulator to do this. just buld an extension to the buliding that has similar, stationary capsules that show the same movie as the actual ride.

DISCUSS

Hmmm... what if they turned the no G's simulators into a Star Tours-esque motion simulator? Chances of that are rather low, but it would certaintly make more sense than just "Watching a poorly produced ride film and pushing buttons"

And, for the record, I am someone who simply watched a video of the ride on Google Videos, and has never been to WDW

DragonNathalie
05-03-2006, 03:53 AM
g forces is wat makes mission space special and different from other rides.!!!!!!!! I DONT EVEN THINK I HEARD OF A RIDE WITH G FORCE! only mission space and star tours..... but mission space has more realistic effects!

NaviMap
05-03-2006, 06:54 AM
Its like offering a version taking out what defines Mission:SPACE as the ultimate simulation ride. :( I'm totally bummed that its occured because of the over-reaction and few over-the-top complaints (on a 2-G ride, though many other thrill rides and extreme roller coasters experience many more Gs) even though the ride working properly and 2 unfortunate situations where not one bit of fault can be placed on Disney. I felt Disney already did more than enough to warn guests of the ride's effects and safety issues in such extraordinary detail (from seeing and experienced firsthand at Epcot).

figmentisback
05-03-2006, 07:19 PM
Ok, according to news at other forums... and my local fox affiliate.

They are going to convert one centrifuge to Non-spinning status.
The other 3 Will spin and be normal...
(This will decrease the theoretical GPH (Guests per hour) but introduce the attraction to people who cannot handle the ride normally.)

This One centrifuge (I don’t know what color has been turned off and being tested on yet) will be modified to allow limited motion meaning it will be able to move forward a little, and move back a little, and move from side to side.. but not spin. This will be a great improvement for the ride since they were offering Surprise Fast Passes for it last summer... and Disney needs all the positive P.R.(Public Relations) they can get on this ride since it has received a lot of Negative in the past few years.

Oranges
05-03-2006, 09:58 PM
2 G's? Is that more or less than what it currently is now?

See, these things annoy me. They can never leave the same ride alone. There's always got to be an adjustment-whereas it could be something a minor as a new color scheme or something as major as a ground-breaking new speed.

If this rumor is true, I may not ever ride Mission: SPACE again. I was impressed by what it was originally, and I also enjoyed my ride very much. Now that things are going to be different, I may not feel the same way about it as I did.

Better ride it now unchanged while I still can...

~FO

matterhornmaniac
05-03-2006, 10:06 PM
nothing is really changing. you'll get the same experience as before. the only thing now is that they are dedicating one centrifuge to cater to guests who don't think they can handle the ride as it is.

Pinkdust
05-03-2006, 10:08 PM
they aren't changing the ride at all for those who like it the way it is, it's still the same ride, it's just that now if you choose to go on the less intense version, you can. Everyone who didn't want the ride to close down got their way, and everyone who wanted a less-intense ride got their way too.

soontobeeagle
05-03-2006, 10:16 PM
i think this is just a rumor i have not heard any thing about this and i was just at disney

ACEROLLER
05-03-2006, 10:19 PM
No this is 100% confirmed this will happen starting in the summer.

cenafan10
05-04-2006, 11:43 AM
Tooken Directly From yahoo

ORLANDO, Fla. - Walt Disney World said Tuesday that it will offer another, tamer version of its Mission: Space attraction, less than three weeks after a woman became ill on the ride.

The $100 million ride spins tourists in a centrifuge that subjects them to twice the normal force of gravity. The alternative ride will open this summer and will run next to the original. It will not have a centrifuge, said Disney spokeswoman Kim Prunty.

The current version is so intense that some riders have been taken to hospitals with chest pain.

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"Providing a choice between two ride options will help to further encourage all guests to carefully consider posted health advisories when making their decision," said Al Weiss, Walt Disney World Resort president.



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I wonder how this ride will come out.

Enjoy

Cenafan10

Blop
05-04-2006, 09:10 PM
ok thats pretty good.. yikes but i wonder how the new 1 will work?

vmkstar99
05-04-2006, 10:08 PM
i hate roller coasters so i never rode on that ride when i got the chance to.

Chaelle
05-05-2006, 04:13 AM
Is it going to help stop people from dying?
~Chaelle

matterhornmaniac
05-05-2006, 05:05 AM
who nows? maybe. i'm sure there will still be people who don't know they have anything wrong with them who will go on the regular side. but i'm sure it will make the chance less likely.

Blop
05-05-2006, 02:24 PM
heres an artical 2 it http://www.wdwmagic.com/general_epcot_news.htm


that might explain a few things

CaptainZeke
05-05-2006, 02:33 PM
I heard on a podcast that there was a rumor that they would make Mission: Space like a training session. The first centrifuge was mild, second moderate, third extreme, and fourth beserk. NOTE: THIS IS JUST A RUMOR.

There's another rumor that they might fill up the Wonders Of Life as a Training Facility, and if you passed, then you could ride it. Of course, there's the problem that you don't want to get an exam when you go on a trip... That would ruin the magic.

Who knows? We'll just have to wait and see.

Tinklover
05-05-2006, 02:56 PM
I am glad they are putting in a calmer virsoin because if not I would never go on it because with all the warning signs it scaried me to go on.

Middiebear
05-19-2006, 05:32 AM
Head's up:

Disney has set the opening date for the "new" version of Mission: Space...

TODAY!!! (May 19, 2006)

The Media will preview the "new" version early this morning...

This is an article I found on WDWMagic.com...

"As previously announced, there will be two Mission: SPACE experiences, Orange Team (spinning high G version as before) and Green Team (non-spinning mild version). The current Standby entrance will become Orange Standby, with the current Singles entrance becoming Green Standby. Before anyone can enter the building they will need to have an orange or green pass, which will have to be presented at the end of the line. This pass will ensure that the rider has chosen the correct ride version, and should help to reduce confusion.

The new version is set to be available to guests this Friday."

Oranges
05-21-2006, 10:45 PM
My family and I tried it today, and I must say that I think this is their solution to the problems--if people use good common sense. Right before you enter the building, there is a sign that describes each of the teams: Orange and Green. They will ask you if you want spinning or no spinning. They'll hand you a "trainee pass" that's either green or orange and you'll follow the line that is the same color as your ticket. You are not allowed to swap tickets once you enter the building.

If you choose the new mild addition, they completely remove all of the warnings that suggest that people with a fear of spinning should not ride. The only warnings the post are dark enclosed spaces and simulators. They no longer command you to stare at the screen. You can look around the pod without any trouble. Sure, you are still "on your back" when you launch into space, but you feel no sensation during the process. In fact, you feel no sensation the entire ride.

A few Cast Members asked us how we liked it and they told us that if any more problems arouse from the spinning part of the ride, they may just make the whole ride non-spinning altogether.

~FO

Poseidon
05-21-2006, 10:47 PM
A few Cast Members asked us how we liked it and they told us that if any more problems arouse from the spinning part of the ride, they may just make the whole ride non-spinning altogether.

~FO



I doubt it...plenty of people still go on the spinning ride without problem, I don't think they'll make it all non-spinning because of problems. Besides, now if you get hurt on M:S and you knew that you might, it's not the ride's fault at all.

If they make the ride non-spinning entirely, I won't be riding it again.

Oranges
05-21-2006, 10:54 PM
I doubt it...plenty of people still go on the spinning ride without problem, I don't think they'll make it all non-spinning because of problems. Besides, now if you get hurt on M:S and you knew that you might, it's not the ride's fault at all.

If they make the ride non-spinning entirely, I won't be riding it again.

Yes, plenty of people do go on it without problem, but yet, some people DO get on it and DO have problems.

Getting hurt on the ride is the rider's fault yes, and the family of the hurt person can't file any lawsuits, but what reputation does that give Disney? They have no sympathy for the rider, but they have sympathy for themselves. A lot of people blame the ride for all the issues, and that really hurts them financially. People may just stay away from the ride altogether, and if that happens, they may have to get rid of it. {removed by mod} That's why the removal of the spinning in the ride is questionable. It's not for the rider's sake. It's for the company's.

~FO

CrossCheck
05-21-2006, 11:02 PM
I wondered why the incedent occured. When I went to epcot, the ride was not intense what so ever, just a G-force on your face. It actually turned out to be sort of a positive thing for me because I went to epcot the day after it was on the news, and I only waited about 10 minutes. (Not Saying Im Glad this happened) Before the ride, they repeat "If you have {bunch of health problems listed here} please exit the ride now." Some people just dont listen. I dont think it is neccesary to make a mellower Mission Space, and it's not disney's fault that these things keep happening.

MissPorscha
05-21-2006, 11:09 PM
Well i can see why they are changing it....... but i mean common! why would u let a 4 year old on a ride that it actually feels like your in space! People are morons these days but anyway! I dont really see tha point in changing the ride because there are warnings all over tha ride saying its intense.... i dont see the point in changin it it seems like a great ride - even though i have not been on it yet - and its popular so why change it?

Oranges
05-22-2006, 12:24 AM
I'll make this relatively brief:

Everyone keeps wondering why changes are being made. You may not have a problem with it, but other people do!

A lot of people keep saying "OMG THERE'S NO POINT IN CHANGING IT", but there is a point. You're not looking at what Disney is looking at. All you people who say this haven't gotten sick. The fact of the matter is that Mission: SPACE is a very intense ride, and it's potentially dangerous if not taken seriously. More injuries on the spinning side of the ride could mean disaster for Disney. There reputation will plummet. They will be branded with the "dangerous park" title, and that's not good. You are also going to badger me with the "there's signs that warn you" and all of that, but do people really listen to it? They think they're so confident and all this nonsense, and look where it lands them. They'll still take the Orange line regardless of the warnings. Despite all of the cautions, never once do they prepare you for what you're about to experience. Changing the entire ride completely is more of a benefit than a downfall. It may not be beneficial to you, but in the long run, it could be help people in all actuality.

~FO

CrossCheck
05-22-2006, 12:45 AM
I'll make this relatively brief:

Everyone keeps wondering why changes are being made. You may not have a problem with it, but other people do!

A lot of people keep saying "OMG THERE'S NO POINT IN CHANGING IT", but there is a point. You're not looking at what Disney is looking at. All you people who say this haven't gotten sick. The fact of the matter is that Mission: SPACE is a very intense ride, and it's potentially dangerous if not taken seriously. More injuries on the spinning side of the ride could mean disaster for Disney. There reputation will plummet. They will be branded with the "dangerous park" title, and that's not good. You are also going to badger me with the "there's signs that warn you" and all of that, but do people really listen to it? They think they're so confident and all this nonsense, and look where it lands them. They'll still take the Orange line regardless of the warnings. Despite all of the cautions, never once do they prepare you for what you're about to experience. Changing the entire ride completely is more of a benefit than a downfall. It may not be beneficial to you, but in the long run, it could be help people in all actuality.

~FO

I do agree with you, Disney does not want to be known as a dangerous theme park. It will completely ruin them. Although, when I went on mission space it was not very intense, sure they had the G-Force but it like an ant compared to Space Mountain or Kingdom Ka. Although the G-Force may be kind of scary to smaller kids.

And the parents should be aware of their childrens health disorders. Shouldnt they know if they have high blood pressure or something, and when the warnings are reapeted, should'nt they should leave before they become ill on the ride?

It must have been changed before I went on vacation, because my friend's uncle cried on that ride, and he is a tall muscular body guard. But guess it would be appropriate to to this, if someone else gets hurt on that ride then people will really start to avoid epcot.

Middiebear
05-22-2006, 04:06 PM
A few Cast Members asked us how we liked it and they told us that if any more problems arouse from the spinning part of the ride, they may just make the whole ride non-spinning altogether.

You never said whether you liked the new "version" or not...:@@:

Poseidon
05-22-2006, 09:47 PM
I'll make this relatively brief:

Everyone keeps wondering why changes are being made. You may not have a problem with it, but other people do!


These are also two problems that could have been avoided if the person's mother (in the child's case) had common sense not to allow a 4 year old child on an intense simulator, along with having a condition. The one with the woman could have also been avoided very easy. I can understand that it may look bad for Disney, but they'll lose more people by making the ride completely non-spinning than by keeping it with green and orange.

A lot of people keep saying "OMG THERE'S NO POINT IN CHANGING IT", but there is a point. You're not looking at what Disney is looking at. All you people who say this haven't gotten sick. The fact of the matter is that Mission: SPACE is a very intense ride, and it's potentially dangerous if not taken seriously. More injuries on the spinning side of the ride could mean disaster for Disney. There reputation will plummet. They will be branded with the "dangerous park" title, and that's not good. You are also going to badger me with the "there's signs that warn you" and all of that, but do people really listen to it? They think they're so confident and all this nonsense, and look where it lands them. They'll still take the Orange line regardless of the warnings. Despite all of the cautions, never once do they prepare you for what you're about to experience. Changing the entire ride completely is more of a benefit than a downfall. It may not be beneficial to you, but in the long run, it could be helping people in all actuality.

It is a potentially dangerous ride, for people who have problems. I haven't seen one person, nor heard of one person who was in good condition that went on the ride that got hurt or sick. Scared maybe, but people get scared on RnRC and Test Track as well.

They aren't going to be branded the most dangerous park because of two accidents that were not their fault. That belongs to Six Flags. :rolleyes:

Also, if someone takes the orange path having KNOWN they have a condition, it's not disney's fault in any way, shape or form! And most people know that these past accidents were not Disney's fault as well. It's a public knowledge.

DEEPLAKE
05-22-2006, 09:56 PM
I <3 that ride i think my mom and sister will go on it now :)

Middiebear
05-22-2006, 10:42 PM
It is a potentially dangerous ride, for people who have problems. I haven't seen one person, nor heard of one person who was in good condition that went on the ride that got hurt or sick. Scared maybe, but people get scared on RnRC and Test Track as well.

I think that's the main problem Mission: Space has...

Too many older folks who visit Epcot think they can handle Mission: Space because they don't know exactly what it is, or more importantly, what the ride ACTUALLY DOES...

I'm sure if Disney allowed people to see Mission: Space in action, Spinning and all, you would see ALL those older people back down...

Mission: Space is a very similar ride that a lot of county fairs have. They usually look like "Space Ships" and they spin VERY QUICKLY out of control. I don't see ANY older people riding those "Space Ship" type rides because they can clearly see how FAST the "Space Ship" spins...

It's hard for people to back down if they are ignorant to the ride's spinning, but I'm sure those people riding Mission: Space who get sick, are the SAME EXACT people who back out of riding Tower of Terror, Rock 'n' Roller Coaster, Splash Mountain, etc... Those are very typical/traditional type thrills that they can see and have probably experienced before, it's easier for them to understand and process...

coolguestjedi
06-29-2006, 11:52 PM
What's G-Force anyway?!?!?! @_@ I'm about to go to WDW later this year and I'm interested in Mission: Space. Please tell me some stuff to expect on ride! :(