smm914
08-10-2005, 04:43 AM
has anybody ever typed random letters and numbers in as a code and gotten something?
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View Full Version : Random code typing smm914 08-10-2005, 04:43 AM has anybody ever typed random letters and numbers in as a code and gotten something? Unlucky 08-10-2005, 04:45 AM no why have you? cheetahlover 08-10-2005, 04:46 AM no i have tried but never works lol smm914 08-10-2005, 04:56 AM no i have not succeeded in getting a working code but i would like to see if anybody has and what they got DoublethePop 08-10-2005, 05:04 AM Well, I was once 1 number close. After I randomly typed it, the first Pirate Magic Pin code came out. It was kind of strange... MissAmber 08-10-2005, 05:20 AM Well before I had a dream that I went to WDW and I wrote down a whole bunch of codes on my hand in the dream. When I woke up, I was repeating the code, "IC4A-LA8D-UU91-H6ZN" in my head. I have NO idea whatsoever how that got in my mind. I wrote it down and waited to VMK to open. I rused to my room to enter the code to see if I actually dreamed of a real code..but nothing. I was bummed and so scared that I actually remembered that from my dream. I'm going to keep trying to keep trying the code though just in case it could have just been made into one. But I'm so naive to think it was to work but..ah well curiousity ;) DarthTimmy 08-10-2005, 06:05 AM I have tried it, and it never worked. The chances of someone randomly entering codes, and getting something is probably one in a million. I would still keep trying though. ____________________ :music-smi:music-smi:music-smi:music-smi:music-smi ROCK ON! MaliaMike 08-10-2005, 06:14 AM I rused to my room to enter the code to see if I actually dreamed of a real code..but nothing. I was bummed and so scared that I actually remembered that from my dream I have had dreams like that except, in my dreams it always lottery numbers. I probably have just as good of a chance winning the lottery as one has randomly typing out a code and hitting an actual code. DoublethePop 08-10-2005, 06:17 AM I rused to my room to enter the code to see if I actually dreamed of a real code..but nothing. I was bummed and so scared that I actually remembered that from my dream I have had dreams like that except, in my dreams it always lottery numbers. I probably have just as good of a chance winning the lottery as one has randomly typing out a code and hitting an actual code. With lottery, I just close my eyes and point to something. I chose out the numbers for my parents, otherwise, I do nothing. I just had a daydream about a code... it was '1111-2222-3333-4444'... It was REALLY weird. I actually got every item in the game... MrGenie 08-10-2005, 06:20 AM Your chances of randomly guessing a code are not very good (and that's an understatement, as I will soon demonstrate ;)). Assume that each position in the 16 character code can take on any one of 36 different values (26 letters, and 10 digits from 0-9). If the codes were only one character long, there would be 36 possible codes. If the codes were two characters long, there would be 36 x 36 = 1296 possible codes. If the codes were three characters long, there would be 36 x 36 x 36 = 46,656 possible codes. ...and so on. So since the codes are 16 characters long, there are 36 x 36 x 36 x 36 x 36 x 36 x 36 x 36 x 36 x 36 x 36 x 36 x 36 x 36 x 36 x 36 = 7.95866 x 10^24 possible codes. How many is that? Well that is the number you would get if you multiplied the number 8 by a trillion (1,000,000,000,000) and then multiplied that result by another trillion. How big is a trillion? One million times one million. Yikes. So let's pick a really big number of actual codes that VMK might have issued. Let's say VMK has printed A MILLION different code cards. That's a lot, right? Well, your chances of guessing a unique code are: 1,000,000 / 7.95866 x 10^24 = 0.000000000000000013% In other words, you would need to guess approximately 8 quintillion different codes (or, you could guess 8 million different codes, a trillion different times) before you randomly managed to guess a working code. That's about the same as saying that if every person in the world guessed a billion different codes, maybe one person would find a working code. I'm not trying to discourage you...I just want to let you know that if you pull this off, you're really lucky. Good luck! :D DoublethePop 08-10-2005, 06:25 AM Your chances of randomly guessing a code are not very good (and that's an understatement, as I will soon demonstrate ;)). Assume that each position in the 16 character code can take on any one of 36 different values (26 letters, and 10 digits from 0-9). If the codes were only one character long, there would be 36 possible codes. If the codes were two characters long, there would be 36 x 36 = 1296 possible codes. If the codes were three characters long, there would be 36 x 36 x 36 = 46,656 possible codes. ...and so on. So since the codes are 16 characters long, there are 36 x 36 x 36 x 36 x 36 x 36 x 36 x 36 x 36 x 36 x 36 x 36 x 36 x 36 x 36 x 36 = 7.95866 x 10^24 possible codes. How many is that? Well that is the number you would get if you multiplied the number 8 by a trillion (1,000,000,000,000) and then multiplied that result by another trillion. How big is a trillion? One million times one million. Yikes. So let's pick a really big number of actual codes that VMK might have issued. Let's say VMK has printed A MILLION different code cards. That's a lot, right? Well, your chances of guessing a unique code are: 1,000,000 / 7.95866 x 10^24 = 0.000000000000000013% In other words, you would need to guess approximately 8 quintillion different codes (or, you could guess 8 million different codes, a trillion different times) before you randomly managed to guess a working code. That's about the same as saying that if every person in the world guessed a billion different codes, maybe one person would find a working code. I'm not trying to discourage you...I just want to let you know that if you pull this off, you're really lucky. Good luck! :D LYKE OMGZ......... That is SO COOL! That means I was really close to doing something that is more impossible to do than winning the lottery EVERY time! Wait a second... I'm not good at math... Er... PS: You used a calculator, didn't you? Naughty, naughty... xP Islandgirl 08-10-2005, 06:49 AM :donald: o-o Never thought of it that way. Nice calculations. :) :donald: PixelProphet 08-10-2005, 07:28 AM In other words, you would need to guess approximately 8 quintillion different codes (or, you could guess 8 million different codes, a trillion different times) before you randomly managed to guess a working code. That's about the same as saying that if every person in the world guessed a billion different codes, maybe one person would find a working code. I'm not trying to discourage you...I just want to let you know that if you pull this off, you're really lucky. Good luck! :D You like to solve problems don't you? lol as it is, i have heard it takes a lifetime to actually count to a billion if you started counting atleast 1 number per second every hour you were awake... with that being said, i will just spend my time working out trades. echo42 08-10-2005, 09:19 AM the only problem is if you DO get the code right, you have just robbed someone of their prize they WOULD have got when they put in the code from their prize card. but if anyone is a math/computer wiz and wishes to try and figure out the formula disney uses, i have 4 or 5 complete sets of cards (codes used, but they could be used to derive a formula like those used by people to generate codes for games and such) Above 08-10-2005, 09:40 AM ^ I would assume that there is no formula and it is just a random series of letters and numbers. prisoner 08-10-2005, 12:43 PM Your chances of randomly guessing a code are not very good (and that's an understatement, as I will soon demonstrate ;)). Looks like MrGenie and I have fun playing with math. :) Here (http://www.vmkforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=13430&postcount=7) is a post I made making the same kind of analysis. I think my favorite quote from that is This gives us 36^16 which is just a little short of 8 septillion possible codes (that is an 8 with 24 zeros after it). To give an idea of how big this is, it means that every person on earth could have 1 quadrillion (1 with 15 zeros after it) codes without having any duplicates. See? This is why you go to school - so you can say bizzare things like this. :D smm914 08-10-2005, 03:21 PM Genie way to kill a thread lol! MarathonMan 08-10-2005, 03:30 PM Your chances of randomly guessing a code are not very good (and that's an understatement, as I will soon demonstrate ;)). Assume that each position in the 16 character code can take on any one of 36 different values (26 letters, and 10 digits from 0-9). If the codes were only one character long, there would be 36 possible codes. If the codes were two characters long, there would be 36 x 36 = 1296 possible codes. If the codes were three characters long, there would be 36 x 36 x 36 = 46,656 possible codes. ...and so on. So since the codes are 16 characters long, there are 36 x 36 x 36 x 36 x 36 x 36 x 36 x 36 x 36 x 36 x 36 x 36 x 36 x 36 x 36 x 36 = 7.95866 x 10^24 possible codes. How many is that? Well that is the number you would get if you multiplied the number 8 by a trillion (1,000,000,000,000) and then multiplied that result by another trillion. How big is a trillion? One million times one million. Yikes. So let's pick a really big number of actual codes that VMK might have issued. Let's say VMK has printed A MILLION different code cards. That's a lot, right? Well, your chances of guessing a unique code are: 1,000,000 / 7.95866 x 10^24 = 0.000000000000000013% In other words, you would need to guess approximately 8 quintillion different codes (or, you could guess 8 million different codes, a trillion different times) before you randomly managed to guess a working code. That's about the same as saying that if every person in the world guessed a billion different codes, maybe one person would find a working code. I'm not trying to discourage you...I just want to let you know that if you pull this off, you're really lucky. Good luck! :D Wow i never thoguth the percentage of guessing a code was that low. You must have alot of free time on your hands. m0nk33b0y 08-10-2005, 03:49 PM Darn, MrGenie beat me to the Mathematical stuff! CaptShua 08-10-2005, 04:06 PM the only problem is if you DO get the code right, you have just robbed someone of their prize they WOULD have got when they put in the code from their prize card. That's a good point. Isn't that against the VMK values? Nwahs 08-10-2005, 04:10 PM i dont think so it doesnt say this i guess VMK would say well its a once in a million *cough* i mean quintillion *cough* and let them have it Tinklover 08-10-2005, 04:14 PM I was bored one day so I did that but no luck!!! CaptShua 08-10-2005, 04:23 PM i dont think so it doesnt say this i guess VMK would say well its a once in a million *cough* i mean quintillion *cough* and let them have it I was more talking about the fact that you are, in effect, stealing someone else's item! You Must NOT: -Use ANY hacking, scripting or editing program with the game. -Steal other Players' credits or in-game belongings. -... It's the second item listed! DoublethePop 08-10-2005, 04:44 PM I was more talking about the fact that you are, in effect, stealing someone else's item! It's the second item listed! Well, it wouldn't be stealing if it was was multi-use code, which I was close to. You do have a good point there, although it would be nearly nearly impossible to accidently steal someone's code if it's a really low chance of actually getting the code right. I would imagine how many times it would take to get part of a code right... PixelProphet 08-10-2005, 05:09 PM See? This is why you go to school - so you can say bizzare things like this. :D GOOGLEPLEX - i win! GreatGatsby 08-10-2005, 05:40 PM You like to solve problems don't you? lolFor the record, MrGenie does this kind of stuff for a living. However, what he does not suggest is the possibility these codes are not so random. All you need to do to discover this is get a number of codes for the same item (say, a cactus chair) and try to discern if there is a pattern. If you find one, you might be able to lower the odds and make educated guesses instead of SWAGs. echo42 08-10-2005, 06:39 PM oh im sure there is a formula for creating a random seeming number, much like the way they generate CD Keys for computer games. PixelProphet 08-10-2005, 06:44 PM oh im sure there is a formula for creating a random seeming number, much like the way they generate CD Keys for computer games. good point, there most likely is a key or 'method to the madness' but once again trying to figure something out will take to much time rather than jsut playing the game straight. Stunt 08-10-2005, 07:15 PM So here's a thought. Why dosen't everyone who has used a code from their cards, list their codes and cards. Maybe this can help create a pattern to break down the codes. Teyla 08-10-2005, 07:21 PM For the record, MrGenie does this kind of stuff for a living. And from what I can tell he is doing a very good job at it. But that was a lot of nubers and things and math that sort if confused me... Alll the more reason for me to continue my schooling. MrGenie 08-10-2005, 07:21 PM So here's a thought. Why dosen't everyone who has used a code from their cards, list their codes and cards. Maybe this can help create a pattern to break down the codes.I admit, this would be a fun activity for me. I've reverse-engineered several code/password systems in various video games. However, unless you are inclined to do this as a purely academic exercise, it's not a good idea. Consider what would happen if you did find a pattern, making it easy to guess unused VMK codes. Then, anyone who knew the pattern could come up with their own codes. However, Disney went to a lot of trouble to make cool Quest cards and print these codes on them, and for every code that you figured out and used, you would be stealing the code from the person who eventually gets that card. Imagine how upset you would be if you went to WDW or DLR and earned some cards, only to get home and realize that the codes don't work anymore because someone has already used them. Teyla 08-10-2005, 07:39 PM Stealing would be bad. And even if you have no harm intended by figuring out the formula (and if I stick around long enough possibly confusing me even more), and maybe even not using the formula for finding codes, this is a public thread, and someone could use it to find the other codes. So really i'm not saying you would use these new found codes to get stuff (and some other person who actually went to WDW or DLR and got the code you used, and got nothing out of it which I would hate to be that personn). I'm saying someone else (maybe even a guest to the forums) probably would use the formula if it was posted. happehkitteh 11-03-2005, 07:45 PM :wave2: :confused: ok that is very confusing |