Once again reading the trading posts I am confronted with posts after posts of people arguing over whether the trader is asking fair trade value for their item.
The posts should be for trading ONLY. I think there should be a way to maintain that integrity.
Mods have the ability to delete. Perhaps you should have an option in the trades to report ANY post that is not an offer, as that is all that should go there, not opinions.
There are plenty of places within these forums for discussion. Trades should consist of simply: I have this for trade. Replies should consist of: I will offer this this this for that item. That way the trades can move along freely and we DO NOT have to go through pages of arguments over value!! We are all pretty much aware of what we personally want and will trade.
The whole 'You are asking too much" "that is not worth that" you are not a fair trader" is a bunch of nonsense and should not be allowed. One man's trash is another man's treasure.
If people do not think a trade is fair, don't offer. Move on.Please consider an option, or allow people to simply report a "NON TRADING COMMENT" so that they can be deleted promptly.

You are soooooooooooo right.

If you have offer make it if not then move on.

Trading posts are for just that, trading.

Great idea Fonna. This is becoming a bigger problem everyday.

Take RecklessPuppy's Thread For Exaple : (

That thread is a perfect example. I mean, she stated what she had and what she wanted. If you don't want to trade her, move on!!
It is just plain ridiculous. People are taking their battles to the wrong forums. Let the traders trade is peace!

Yes, but then if this comes along, i think there should be a series of threads that break down what each item in vmk is worth.

I mean, innocent people could get scammed out of candy cauldrons, blue wreaths, BTM teleporters, and much more, because the so-called trustworthy person said that the items they were trading were worth more than all of that.

If somebody were to therefore put rareities on items, it would make threads a whole lot better :)

-CL_MsBehave

Thanks, Because I really hate having to read pages by pages just to see what kind of offers im up against. And then when I do finally post my offer, the thread starter does not see it because of all the SPAM. Yes, I consider it SPAM if it is a message that is not allowed and no one cares about. (Stupid Pointless Annoying Messages) SPAM!

Totally agree folks, but on the matter of scamming at the end of the day the people will only trade what they want, weather you think it is too much or too little. The people doing the trade may be happy with the items offered or are desperate to get there hands on a particular item so are willing to offer the earth for it.

At the end of the day what is priceless to you may not be priceless to somebody else and visa versa.

Totally agree folks, but on the matter of scamming at the end of the day the people will only trade what they want, weather you think it is too much or too little. The people doing the trade may be happy with the items offered or are desperate to get there hands on a particular item so are willing to offer the earth for it.

At the end of the day what is priceless to you may not be priceless to somebody else and visa versa.

I agree with you...

I also feel that if you are doing a trade..make sure u want to go through with the trade before you do it.....each person values items differently so you should not come back later demanding a trade back and hound the person forever if they do not wish to do so....

You can make each page 100 posts long, which I find more quicker.
While I agree with Fonna some ppl could be getting ripped off, and no one will be allowed to post about it.

Yes, but then if this comes along, i think there should be a series of threads that break down what each item in vmk is worth.


I mean, innocent people could get scammed out of candy cauldrons, blue wreaths, BTM teleporters, and much more, because the so-called trustworthy person said that the items they were trading were worth more than all of that.


If somebody were to therefore put rareities on items, it would make threads a whole lot better :)



-CL_MsBehave

I am very sorry Behave BUT this whole issue of what an item is worth is subjective. You may think it is the rarest, someone may think otherwise. When you start ascribing value to items you are assuming everyone holds to the same set of ideas about things that you do. That is just not true.
Getting into your opinions is simply off topic regarding trading. It really is so much simpler to just post offer if you are interested and move along if you are not.
As I said, there are other places in the forums for you to open a friendly discussion regarding your ideas about what YOU (in general, not you personally) think is fair and what is not.
It is all debatable, I just do not think getting all over people when they suggest a certain trade you do not agree with will come of any good.
Don't agree, don't trade. Why does everything have to get so nasty?

I am very sorry Behave BUT this whole issue of what an item is worth is subjective. You may think it is the rarest, someone may think otherwise. When you start ascribing value to items you are assuming everyone holds to the same set of ideas about things that you do. That is just not true.
Getting into your opinions is simply off topic regarding trading. It really is so much simpler to just post offer if you are interested and move along if you are not.
As I said, there are other places in the forums for you to open a friendly discussion regarding your ideas about what YOU (in general, not you personally) think is fair and what is not.
It is all debatable, I just do not think getting all over people when they suggest a certain trade you do not agree with will come of any good.
Don't agree, don't trade. Why does everything have to get so nasty?

Well put Fonna...I totally agree wih you :)

Yes, but then if this comes along, i think there should be a series of threads that break down what each item in vmk is worth.

I mean, innocent people could get scammed out of candy cauldrons, blue wreaths, BTM teleporters, and much more, because the so-called trustworthy person said that the items they were trading were worth more than all of that.

If somebody were to therefore put rareities on items, it would make threads a whole lot better :)

-CL_MsBehave

I somewhat agree with MsBehave and somwhat agree with fonna.
Nobody like to get scammed like I almost got scammed with a buyable pin by somone on this forum. I think it would be best to have a sub-forum in the trade ( which exists " the price is right") to descuss about the value. Where else on the forum would they put that?
So I think there should be no other posts than offers on trading threads but we should still keep a sub-forum in the trade section dedicated to to value of the items.

I don't have much else to say I hope I spelled everything right.

~alubadubdub

I somewhat agree with MsBehave and somwhat agree with fonna.
Nobody like to get scammed like I almost got scammed with a buyable pin by somone on this forum. I think it would be best to have a sub-forum in the trade ( which exists " the price is right") to descuss about the value. Where else on the forum would they put that?
So I think there should be no other posts than offers on trading threads but we should still keep a sub-forum in the trade section dedicated to to value of the items.

I don't have much else to say I hope I spelled everything right.

~alubadubdub

The only problem with this is that nothing has a set value..we all value it differently...I think something we can do is use "The Price Is Right" to go ask what people think about a trade before you follow through with it..if you are unsure of the value then you could ask what people think...not everyone is out to scam someone..

I did a trade where I was trading my pink nemo chair and lifestyle poster...at Christmas or just after Christmas they stopped giving out the nemo chair and lifestyle..they got very rare and I paid a lot to get these items...when I traded them I was still under the impression that they were worth a lot and that the tour was not giving out these items...a few days later someone went to Disney and they were being given out again...I in no way tried to scam or cheat anyone..I traded for what I felt was fair...not all players are out for a scam...

i agree with recklesspuppy. another great example is I traded an full green hero suit that I had bought with credits that I won in Fireworks for a full space suit another had won (for free) in Blast in Space. I'm not good at Blast so I couldn't win that suit. Blast doesn't give credits and my friend didn't have enough credits for a hero suit. We were both satisified with our trade. Now was it equal value. Not in terms of just credits, but it was in terms of what we each wanted.

I am very sorry Behave BUT this whole issue of what an item is worth is subjective. You may think it is the rarest, someone may think otherwise. When you start ascribing value to items you are assuming everyone holds to the same set of ideas about things that you do. That is just not true.
Getting into your opinions is simply off topic regarding trading. It really is so much simpler to just post offer if you are interested and move along if you are not.
As I said, there are other places in the forums for you to open a friendly discussion regarding your ideas about what YOU (in general, not you personally) think is fair and what is not.
It is all debatable, I just do not think getting all over people when they suggest a certain trade you do not agree with will come of any good.
Don't agree, don't trade. Why does everything have to get so nasty?

So true. An item is only as rare as the owner thinks it is. If the owner thinks inferno is worthless let them trade there inferno for a barrel chair.

As an appointed "trades" moderator (among other things...), I think it's time I stepped in.

Fonna-you're a wise one. :)

However, here:

Perhaps you should have an option in the trades to report ANY post that is not an offer, as that is all that should go there, not opinions.
you mention having an option...

this option already exists. It's called the REPORT BUTTON :). We mods can't stress enough the importance of this button and its benefits. We would much rather you use the report button than PM us or post something in the thread saying what we should do (mods please close this thread...item traded, please close...etc...). It's easier for us to do our jobs.

To those of you yelling, "but what about the SCAMMERS!!!"...I say this.

We have an entire page here on the forums called "The Price is Right". Use it. If you're in a trade negotiation and you aren't quite sure what you're getting or giving away, post there! Yes, it may take a bit to get a reply, so don't go in there when you're in the middle of a trade window and expect to get an answer right that second. It doesn't work that way-none of the forums here do. It takes time for people to read posts.

Questions? PM me.

For future reference, we mods are planning on implementing the "off topic? it's trash!" rule regarding trades. Discussion about worth will be removed unless it's in the forum area "The Price is Right".

What happened today with RecklessPuppy's thread was absolutely ridiculous, not to mention embarrassing. Let's all stop and think about how we'd feel if some of the things we said to others were said to us. If you don't have an offer for the trade, keep your nose out. Not even to say "great offer!". It doesn't matter if you think it's a great offer unless you're making a great offer.

WORTH IS IN THE EYE OF THE BEHOLDER. What I think is "worth it" might be a joke to you. if a kid wants to give up his inferno for a gold candlestick so be it! he wants it. He has to click accept twice and he has the avenues here to ask "what's it worth?"

Then, i think there should be a general idea of the rarity, or several posts of what people think. That way, we could still trade freely and not get the short end of the stick after the trade.

I did a trade where I was trading my pink nemo chair and lifestyle poster...at Christmas or just after Christmas they stopped giving out the nemo chair and lifestyle..they got very rare and I paid a lot to get these items...when I traded them I was still under the impression that they were worth a lot and that the tour was not giving out these items...a few days later someone went to Disney and they were being given out again...I in no way tried to scam or cheat anyone..I traded for what I felt was fair...not all players are out for a scam...

what a nice christmas present then!
if you were under the impression that it was worth a lot, then why couldnt you trade back with the user? i am sure she would understand, i mean, she even told you you could keep some of the stuff for something in return, while still giving you back the pink nemo and safari poster. then, both of you would be happy. it would have been fair for both, and a lot of comments after that point would have never happened.

-CL_MsBehave

Then, i think there should be a general idea of the rarity, or several posts of what people think. That way, we could still trade freely and not get the short end of the stick after the trade.



-CL_MsBehave
Feel free to start up a thread in the Price is Right then. I doubt any mod has that sort of time to create and maintain such a thread.

Then, i think there should be a general idea of the rarity, or several posts of what people think. That way, we could still trade freely and not get the short end of the stick after the trade.

-CL_MsBehave


Er, yeah. That would be called THE PRICE IS RIGHT...we have an entire forum for that.

Kthx.

Er, yeah. That would be called THE PRICE IS RIGHT...we have an entire forum for that.

Kthx.

Kthx. Sorry I just love whenever someone says that XD

Anyway, I think this situation is taken care of already with the handy-dandy report button, but most people tend to overlook it ;D People say rules are made to be broken, but if it's not an official rule ((no off topic posts)) then maybe not as many people will break it ;D

Okay never mind, I'm half asleep as I type, so please excuse my...non-logical...ideas...

what a nice christmas present then!
if you were under the impression that it was worth a lot, then why couldnt you trade back with the user? i am sure she would understand, i mean, she even told you you could keep some of the stuff for something in return, while still giving you back the pink nemo and safari poster. then, both of you would be happy. it would have been fair for both, and a lot of comments after that point would have never happened.

I am editing my post..I had a long post here explaining myself once again...I have decided that this is not the place to do so....I will not let this go on and on....

If these post continue..I will report them

Thank you.

I thought that myself. I was thinking maybe the Forums could add options when you click that report button, the way VMK has the drop down menu.
Like: off-topic, close thread, etc....

Totally agree folks, but on the matter of scamming at the end of the day the people will only trade what they want, weather you think it is too much or too little. The people doing the trade may be happy with the items offered or are desperate to get there hands on a particular item so are willing to offer the earth for it.

At the end of the day what is priceless to you may not be priceless to somebody else and visa versa.


I totally agree here. If I want somethign bad enough I offer the world so I can get it a.s.a.p. At the same time If I have something that I love and don't really want to part with then its going to have to take a very good offer for me to let it go.

I have seen . " Wanted Trades " out there where ppl don't exactly know what all they will offer for something and end up offering alot of stuff because they want it that bad. As long as everybody in the trade is happy then what is the big deal ?

Down with the spammers !!!!

Unless you are bidding. Stay Off The Thread !!!
And keep your comments to yourself.

Yes, but then if this comes along, i think there should be a series of threads that break down what each item in vmk is worth.


I mean, innocent people could get scammed out of candy cauldrons, blue wreaths, BTM teleporters, and much more, because the so-called trustworthy person said that the items they were trading were worth more than all of that.


If somebody were to therefore put rareities on items, it would make threads a whole lot better :)



-CL_MsBehave

Well, Not necessarily. If you have an offer or have a trade and you want to know if its a scam because it just doesnt sound right go to "The Price Is Right" forum and look it up before you do anything drastic. Although some people dont so that would be NEXT priority. PS. CL_MsBehave I saw you on MickeyManFan lOL

But let me get this straight; you want us to also use this when a trade is finished and we want to close our thread?

The reason we would rather you use the report button is this:

we can only do so much. By you using report when you want something closed or think something should be changed, that shows us right away what needs to be done. Otherwise, it may be days before your thread is closed and we have no way of seeing it.

Hope that helps.

I'm still a little confused about the "report button" for closing a thread. When I have actually created the thread myself the only place I see a report button is on other people's posts - so would this mean I would be reporting their post?

I'm still a little confused about the "report button" for closing a thread. When I have actually created the thread myself the only place I see a report button is on other people's posts - so would this mean I would be reporting their post?It will direct us first to their post. If you say, "please close the thread" we'll know what it's for. We do read them after all..lol.