awesome!!!! i hear that they took out the i do pop ups in the atic scene of the ride!

awesome!!!! i hear that they took out the i do pop ups in the atic scene of the ride!
Yes, they did take those out, but lets not waste space on this thread talking about it, when there is another thread devoted to the subject.

Here is the Haunted Mansion changes thread (http://www.vmkforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56467)

Pirates of the caribean new effect waterfall that makes ghost davy jones appear

bump! i hope this isn't the wong time to bump...

Not sure if this has been posted. ( I apologize if it has) But Walt wanted live animals on the Jungle Cruise, but zoologists told him that they wouldn't be awake during the day, and either the boat would hit the animals or animals will hit the boat... I think the guide on the boat told us or a backstage tour of the park guide told us.

Did you know that CA Screamin has the exact same ride track as rockin roller coaster at Walt Disneyworld…. Well I saw it on wickapedia and I hear that is why we don’t need the to build that ride over in California anymore 

Not sure if this has been posted. ( I apologize if it has) But Walt wanted live animals on the Jungle Cruise, but zoologists told him that they wouldn't be awake during the day, and either the boat would hit the animals or animals will hit the boat... I think the guide on the boat told us or a backstage tour of the park guide told us.
this is true
and in fact he did have one live animal a crocodile

but it was onlky there for about 7 months
the ppl who would fix the tracks got scared that a crocodile might get them

the track layouts for screamin and rnrc are nothing alike

Did you know that CA Screamin has the exact same ride track as rockin roller coaster at Walt Disneyworld…. Well I saw it on wickapedia and I hear that is why we don’t need the to build that ride over in California anymore I agree with Matterhornmaniac, That is simply not true.

The track layout and the soundtrack in Rockin Roller Coaster is completely different (especially since it fits into a completely enclosed space). California Screamin basically forms the end to end back drop of Paradise Pier. The track layout stretches from end to end and its dimensions vary significantly thoughout the pier.

Don't trust everything you read in Wikipedia as complete fact (especially when it comes to Disney Theme Park rumors).

Ah, but the Disney Theme parks technically don't have 'rides', they have attractions. And a walk through indeed counts as an attraction...
there is only one true ride at a Disney theme park world wide and it is at Disneyland and the name of the RIde?

Drum Roll plz.....

Mr. Toads Wild RIDE!

yea the one where nemo shoots out of in the fish tank
That is not the volcano that will be in the ride the ride story is as followed:
Once again nemo has swam away from his father in search of a volcano now you have to join his father and the other cast to find nemo

Madame Leota was based on the Imagineer Leota Thomas :)
no not just based but is the face of madame Leota is none other than Imagineer Leota Thomas however the voice is not Leota Thomas. it is the woman (i forget her name who vioced Maleficant(sp?)) at HMH a new voice and face was need but both had passed on, but as luck would have it Leota Thomas's Daughter became and Imagineer and voiced and acted as the face for Madame Leota at X-mas

Yes, DLR is much much smaller in size (why Walt Disney was so convinced in buying up such massive amounts of land for WDW), but we have the 2nd largest parking structure in the world, lol.

The third park plan never really took off, but you're right, it would take alot of imagination to find a creative way to connect it with main entrance plaza of the two parks. That dirt lot directly to the north of the property is owned by some developer that trying to create a multi-story shopping/dinning avenue called Anaheim GardenWalk and the grey area to the north of that is the Pumbaa Parking lot (they use it mostly for days when they get close to max capacity at Disneyland).
sorry for multi posting but the way they had planed to conect the third park was by useing a sytem like peoplemovers or rocketrods from the parking lot and then have them take the quest to the new park

sorry for multi posting but the way they had planed to conect the third park was by useing a sytem like peoplemovers or rocketrods from the parking lot and then have them take the quest to the new parkThat first came up as part of the original "Wescot plans" with the main parking being where the Pumbaa lot is currently and the peoplemover type transportation going to the main entrance plaza from there. It would still be difficult to work a way to access the theme park from the parking area since that land in between is not owned by Disney. The third theme park plan really never took off and was only talked about in 2001 (DCA's opening year) as a possible 2009/2010 release then the major tourism drop-off after 9/11 (coupled by bad reviews over certain aspects of DCA) put those plans to a halt.

was small world orginally white from what i remember it used to be sooo colorful there was a phase where most of the colors were teal and another phase where it was mostly pink

The third theme park plan really never took off and was only talked about in 2001 (DCA's opening year) as a possible 2009/2010 release then the major tourism drop-off after 9/11 (coupled by bad reviews over certain aspects of DCA) put those plans to a halt.Actually, that's not entirely correct.

In his address to the shareholders in March of this year, when the subject of a "third gate" came up, Rober Iger was very plain. He said, "there will be no third gate until the second gate is successful."

He further acknowledged that the second park's failure is a failure of theme and content, which is why they are planning huge changes.

9/11 had very little to do with the lack of a third gate - even as Disneyland's attendance continues to climb, DCA has shown very little movement. Only Monsters Inc ride appears to have made any difference there, but there's little doubt that will only carry so far.

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P.S. the reason DLR's castle interior is no longer open is a California rule that all attractions must be accessible to the handicapped, and there was no way to retrofit that castle. Far too small inside.

P.S. the reason DLR's castle interior is no longer open is a California rule that all attractions must be accessible to the handicapped, and there was no way to retrofit that castle. Far too small inside.

that is not true at all because of the age of the castle it falls under the cat. of grand father it dose not have to be accessible, just like the New Finding Nemo ride will not hold riders that are handicapped(if you are and can not make it down the stairs by your self, because Disney is Disney they are filming the ride and will put all handicapped people in a room and let them watch the ride.)

Originally Posted by GreatGatsby
P.S. the reason DLR's castle interior is no longer open is a California rule that all attractions must be accessible to the handicapped, and there was no way to retrofit that castle. Far too small inside.

The answer has been posted somewhere in this mess. The Interior at the moment is being changed. Proof of this is the new Three Fairies Glass Light store on the Right side:)

the glass store has nothing to do with the walk-through. there are no plans as of now to do anything with the castle's interior.

This may have already been posted, but on the Monsters Inc. attraction at DCA there is a hidden mickey on Sulley. The last time he is seen there is a purple mickey-shaped spot on his blue fur located on the back of his left upper thigh. Also, I have not seen it but I have heard that in the scene where boo is hitting Randall and he is changing colors, one color scheme he has is blue with gold mickeys.
Two of my other personal favorite hidden Items are;
On the Winnie the Pooh attraction as you leave the Heffa-lump and Woozle room, look directly over head and you will see Max, Buff and Melvin. The talking heads from the removed Country Bear Jamboree.
In the Indiana Jones que, in the room where the movie is being shown ask a cast member to show you the white and blue eeyore parking lot sign hidden in the dark next to the projector. This is only visible with a flashlight

There are many posts as to why the Sleeping Beauty Walkthrough is no longer open. The answer is that it is too difficult to keep that area secure. And after 9/11 and all the security scares, the castle was closed and left to rot. There are no plans to re-open it at this time. But part of one of the displays can be seen in the Emporium windows on Main Street. They are currently showcasing some of the best window displays they have ever made, and for this event they have moved part of a display from the castle to the Emporium windows.

In regards to the new Three Fairies Glass shop. You will notice that you have seen these "glass-bubble" sculptures somewhere before. They used to be inside the star trader shop, but have now moved to a more permanent place inside the castle. This has nothing to do with the attraction above it.

that is not true at all because of the age of the castle it falls under the cat. of grand father it dose not have to be accessible, just like the New Finding Nemo ride will not hold riders that are handicapped(if you are and can not make it down the stairs by your self, because Disney is Disney they are filming the ride and will put all handicapped people in a room and let them watch the ride.)There is no such "grandfather" ruling, at least not in California. Disney officials had the Main Street Train Station designated as a "Historical Landmark" specifically so they would not need to make it wheelchair-accessible, which would have required a major overhaul.

Even the Jungle Cruise now has special wheelchair-ready boat (they're kinda cool - we saw one in action a couple of weeks ago).

I have never heard of this handicapped room for the Sub Voyage. Where did you get this information? In fact, I'm curious where a lot of these far-from-correct "here's the truth" answers come from. Certainly not from Disney.

In fact, I'm curious where a lot of these far-from-correct "here's the truth" answers come from. Certainly not from Disney.

cough*al lutz*cough*jim hill*cough

are there any future attractions planned for california adventure like the millionare building?? are they going to expand the park???? what are the upcoming changes???

they are changing DCA the whole park

are there any future attractions planned for california adventure like the millionare building?? are they going to expand the park???? what are the upcoming changes???

if i remember right.. it's a working soundtage.. they can do anything they want in there... like have commericals or inside concerts not held in the hyperion for some reason which could also work with that....

I say take the soundstage.. and put in a new attraction...

"On the Haunted House ride where all the ghosts are dancing in the ballroom, there is a spider web in front of you at one point. There is a huge pane of glass located about 5 feet in front of you. The spider web is originally formed by a crack in the glass because of a small boy who slipped a sling shot onto the ride past the ride operators. He aimed it at one of the ghosts thinking it would hit it. But to his surprise, the shot was stopped by the glass in front of him. The glass cracked when the shot hit resembling a spider web. Instead of replacing the glass, which was much too expensive and time consuming, Disney Imagineers fixed it up, and made it look like a spider web."

Are you sure that is true? A sling shot won't penetrate that glass window straight through. Wouldn't the rock just bounce off? and the force couldn't be that strong.
The Cast Members there told me that a guest snuck a gun into the park and was intoxicated. He thought the ghost were real so he shot the gun with the bullet hitting through the window.

Pirates of the Carribean was considered to be a walk through ride until Walt saw it and they closed it all down and re did it again, Unfornately Walt passed on before the last installments finished.

In the skull room in the ride Indiana Jones there's a skull wearing a mickey hat. It's so hard to see because you go by so quickly. But it's still there.

Main Street USA has windows dedicated to the workers who retired in the company.

are there any future attractions planned for california adventure like the millionare building?? are they going to expand the park???? what are the upcoming changes???

Yes they are, there's a parking lot that is located behind DCA. They are building a future ride called Alien Invasion which was popular in Florida and Stitch's Escape. The Strawberry fields by the hotel. Disney has been going through legal battles of getting ownership of the land so they can build a Disney Water Park.

phah! Why would Calfornia would open another water park ? We have like six major ones already.

Yes they are, there's a parking lot that is located behind DCA. They are building a future ride called Alien Invasion which was popular in Florida and Stitch's Escape. The Strawberry fields by the hotel. Disney has been going through legal battles of getting ownership of the land so they can build a Disney Water Park.

phah! Why would Calfornia would open another water park ? We have like six major ones already.i don't think they're battling for that land anymore (If you're talking about the site for a potential 3rd theme park). they've already built a cast member parking lot on it, you can consider that land owned by Disney now. I don't ever recall any news of Disney discussing a water park for that particular site. The only current trouble I see with that site is that city of Anaheim last fall unveiled potential plans to build a "grand" boulevard and urban development area, part of it going straight through the site.

Are you sure that is true? A sling shot won't penetrate that glass window straight through. Wouldn't the rock just bounce off? and the force couldn't be that strong.
The Cast Members there told me that a guest snuck a gun into the park and was intoxicated. He thought the ghost were real so he shot the gun with the bullet hitting through the window.

this was already discussed in the thread shortly after it was origninally posted

Yes they are, there's a parking lot that is located behind DCA. They are building a future ride called Alien Invasion which was popular in Florida and Stitch's Escape. The Strawberry fields by the hotel. Disney has been going through legal battles of getting ownership of the land so they can build a Disney Water Park.

phah! Why would Calfornia would open another water park ? We have like six major ones already.

The ride they are building in DCA is not from WDW nor is it similar to SGE. Its an orginal concept themed around the toy story characters, sans Buzz, and the working titles are Midway Madness or Midway Mania. Disney, as of now, is not involved in any legal battles over ownership of land.

The ride they are building in DCA is not from WDW nor is it similar to SGE. Its an orginal concept themed around the toy story characters, sans Buzz, and the working titles are Midway Madness or Midway Mania.

A new rumor floating around involves "Midway Mania" opening at the Disney-MGM Studios theme park first, then Disney's California Adventure...

Someone mentioned the old "Millionaire" building in another post... Ironically enough, Rumor has it... Disney will be closing the attraction at Disney-MGM Studios to make way for this new "Midway Mania." Perhaps the same events will come to fruition at Disney's California Adventure...

BOTH attractions are JUST RUMORS... Nothing has been confirmed by Disney as of yet...

The ride they are building in DCA is not from WDW nor is it similar to SGE. Its an orginal concept themed around the toy story characters, sans Buzz, and the working titles are Midway Madness or Midway Mania. Disney, as of now, is not involved in any legal battles over ownership of land.


I guess you can say that but there are future developments. The guest parking lot behind the bug's land and behind the tortilla factory. They are expanding DCA. I am pretty sure that is where the Alien Encounter is going to be at and other attractions in this 2008. DCA is like Disneyland when it first opened, it was small and I'm pretty sure that they are going to expand it. If the new cast member parking lots that used to be the strawberry fields then I am pretty sure that the company is going to relocate "us" workers to a new parking location and have new development there. As for the land that was across the street where the motel was and by the fire station. It had been vacant for a long time to do that "Garden Walk" and it hadn't been touched for a good awhile. I really don't know what is happening there.

i don't think they're battling for that land anymore (If you're talking about the site for a potential 3rd theme park). they've already built a cast member parking lot on it, you can consider that land owned by Disney now. I don't ever recall any news of Disney discussing a water park for that particular site. The only current trouble I see with that site is that city of Anaheim last fall unveiled potential plans to build a "grand" boulevard and urban development area, part of it going straight through the site.

I have seen that Urban development on the street but it's by Angels stadium.

I have seen that Urban development on the street but it's by Angels stadium.I'm not just talking about the Platnium Triangle Development Area. I'm talking about the Grand Parkway plan.

Here's the article from the city of Anaheim (w/ a link to the .pdf presentation):
http://www.anaheim.net/administration/PIO/news.asp?id=553

Here's the article from the Orange County Register:
http://www.ocregister.com/ocregister/news/atoz/article_730761.php
9/11 had very little to do with the lack of a third gate - even as Disneyland's attendance continues to climb, DCA has shown very little movement. Only Monsters Inc ride appears to have made any difference there, but there's little doubt that will only carry so far.The statistics showed spending in the Anaheim Resort overall (Disneyland Resort, plus the surrounding hotels/businesses) was down in 2001 and 9/11 was blamed for the downturn, but later articles show that both attendance and tourism spending have rebounded and have continued to grow since then. Attendance increased in 2001 over the 2000 statistics for the Anaheim Resort but only 1.2% compared to the 5.2% growth in 2000. A misunderstanding of the article on my part.

what is this 'Midway Mania" please explain??????????????is there going to be a soft opening for pirates like Space mountain and Sully and mike to the rescue rides

A new rumor floating around involves "Midway Mania" opening at the Disney-MGM Studios theme park first, then Disney's California Adventure...

Someone mentioned the old "Millionaire" building in another post... Ironically enough, Rumor has it... Disney will be closing the attraction at Disney-MGM Studios to make way for this new "Midway Mania." Perhaps the same events will come to fruition at Disney's California Adventure...

BOTH attractions are JUST RUMORS... Nothing has been confirmed by Disney as of yet...

i'm aware of the fact that Mdway Mania will be opening up in MGM a few months ahead of the opening at DCA, but it was originally conceived for DCA. its a fairly solid rumor, and i would be extremely surprised if the attraction in either place never came to fruition


I guess you can say that but there are future developments. The guest parking lot behind the bug's land and behind the tortilla factory. They are expanding DCA. I am pretty sure that is where the Alien Encounter is going to be at and other attractions in this 2008. DCA is like Disneyland when it first opened, it was small and I'm pretty sure that they are going to expand it. If the new cast member parking lots that used to be the strawberry fields then I am pretty sure that the company is going to relocate "us" workers to a new parking location and have new development there. As for the land that was across the street where the motel was and by the fire station. It had been vacant for a long time to do that "Garden Walk" and it hadn't been touched for a good awhile. I really don't know what is happening there.

there are no plans for an alien encounter ride. there were rumors for an incredibles ride using robo-coaster technology and another for a cars ride using test track's technology being built in that location, but neither of those have been greenlit. and of course DCA is going to expand into the timon parking lot. it already has with TOT and FFF. they already have relocated us once before. were you a cm when they used to park right in front of harbor point? i bet if they do build a 3rd gate (highly doubtful anytime soon) they'd build a parking structure on the pumbaa lot for us to park.


what is this 'Midway Mania" please explain??????????????is there going to be a soft opening for pirates like Space mountain and Sully and mike to the rescue rides

Well Disney hasn't officially announced it yet, so we don't know exactly what it will be like but the rumors are:

1. Will feature Toy Story characters (with the exception of Buzz)
2. It will be interactive, possibly a shooting/target thing like Buzz, yet different. Possibly similar to MiB at Universal Orlando
3. Will be located in PP, the entrance being the former Maliburittos and at MGM in the current Millionaire building.
4. Lasseter approves of the attraction

most likely because it is re-made and space mounatin was re-made..

ywah i heard that bye
2010-2015 that DCa wont be as "californian " theme
bye that time it would be more pixar
the test track and incredibal that were stated i have found the names of these rides
Mcqeen Speedway-cars
Syndrome's escape

these are not yet confirmed as real rieds but these are thenames if they are craeted

(uncle works at disneyland office)
an immagineere

so yeah we can hope to see those

did you know that they are making space into Rocky Moutain at night,it is only happening at night and features a Van Halen song, I think if u look at the sing when the sun is on it you can see it

did you know that they are making space into Rocky Moutain at night,it is only happening at night and features a Van Halen song, I think if u look at the sing when the sun is on it you can see it

It's Rock It Mountain and as of right now it doesn't look like the general public will be seeing it. If they ever do, it would be in a couple years and it would be an all day changover lasting for a few months at a time similar to HMH and IASWH. However, it is open for gradnights right now. The music is not van halen, but rather hoobastank's "let it out"

so some peoplesay it is a pixar shotting ride and others say it is like test track at MGM studios which one is it?? and is subnmarines return may 07...?

midway mania and the test track/cars ride are two completely different rides in two different areas within the park. nemo will be opening around (but not definately) june 2007

oh and where are these areas?

there are no plans for an alien encounter ride. there were rumors for an incredibles ride using robo-coaster technology and another for a cars ride using test track's technology being built in that location, but neither of those have been greenlit. and of course DCA is going to expand into the timon parking lot. it already has with TOT and FFF. they already have relocated us once before. were you a cm when they used to park right in front of harbor point? i bet if they do build a 3rd gate (highly doubtful anytime soon) they'd build a parking structure on the pumbaa lot for us to park.



Would I get in trouble to say that I am?

so some peoplesay it is a pixar shotting ride and others say it is like test track at MGM studios which one is it?? and is subnmarines return may 07...?


Well the pixar shooting ride is the BuZZ LightYear Attraction. and the submarines was taken out of there for a reason. In replace of that it's the Finding Nemo Ride.

2010-2015 that DCa wont be as "californian " theme

lol so what DCA is going to be called by then ? Disney 'a presentation of Pixar film' Adventure? I don't think that they would do that. It's insane and that's a major gamble with alot of revenue that goes with it. California Adventure is something for people to actually see California, it's importance and living . To get a feel for the tourist to recognize California sight seeing spots when they go to other parts of the state. They would know and say, " Hey, I saw this at California Adventure."
Just know that Disneyland was built first before any of the parks. It has became the Icon of early and this generation. Everyone want to see the original or the first park ever built by Walt otherwise than his own backyard. Once they go, they will see California across the way and wonder what's that side is all about.
Plus, they would have to take that big " C-A-L-I-F-O-R-N-I-A " sign down by the gate, remodel the whole park, changing the lands themes. I

lol so what DCA is going to be called by then ? Disney 'a presentation of Pixar film' Adventure? I don't think that they would do that. It's insane and that's a major gamble with alot of revenue that goes with it. California Adventure is something for people to actually see California, it's importance and living . To get a feel for the tourist to recognize California sight seeing spots when they go to other parts of the state. They would know and say, " Hey, I saw this at California Adventure."
Just know that Disneyland was built first before any of the parks. It has became the Icon of early and this generation. Everyone want to see the original or the first park ever built by Walt otherwise than his own backyard. Once they go, they will see California across the way and wonder what's that side is all about.
Plus, they would have to take that big " C-A-L-I-F-O-R-N-I-A " sign down by the gate, remodel the whole park, changing the lands themes.

Whether you want to believe it or not... Disney's California Adventure IS NOT a successful Disney theme park...

It WILL be changing...

And who said that Disneyland was going to be successfull ? Certainly, by alot of ppl when the park first opened.

But we will see. lol If it does I will buy you a churro.

4 years of low attendance proves that... ;)

4 years of low attendance proves that... ;)

For years of attendance, maybe because the park is still new.
But I totally think that things are going to pick up within now and to the future. Anything can happen between now and the future. New developments and attractions. Just hold on that yet. lol if not I will buy you a churro. :CastMem:

But didn't Disney have a battle with the Pixar company?

But didn't Disney have a battle with the Pixar company?

more or less. it was mainly over the characters. but that doesn't really matter anymore considering that disney owns pixar now.

and i highly doubt DCA will drop the "california" in its title, even though it already has in its theme. changing the name won't really change the stigma of the park an it would cost quite a bit in marketing

how come disney dosen't open athe gate between TOT and a bug's land????????

^there's a service road there, for the parades, emergency vehicles, services vehicles, and what not. there were talks of building a path between them similar to what is currently used between frontierland and fantasyland, but that won't be happening anytime soon. your guess is as good as mine if that will ever happen or if they'll make that path or one going from TOT to the alley between the farm and wharf.

Wow, there is a ton of mis-information in here now. . .

First off, the POTC was planned to be a walk through attraction, but very shortly after that idea was proposed, WED enterprises realized the error in their ways and created the pirates attraction as it is today. Proof of Walt's involvement in the ride on POTC can be found on the DL 10th Anaversary Special, and on the POTC DVD ( check the second disk under Pirates in the Park).

Disney's California Adventure is rarely called Disney's California Adventure. . . it is almost always called DCA both by guests and cast members alike. The Disney company hates this, and is considering re-branding DCA with a new name. Currently their is a "placemaking" project going on that is making the park more beautiful, more inviting, and helping to better define some of the areas of the park. Soon the Golden Gate Bridge and the Mural in the entryway will both be gone as part of the Placemaking project. DCA is and always has been a big flop.I mean . . . come on, who wants to visit a CA themed park -in CA? That is just ludicrious.Plus it opened with way too many shows shops and restraunts. If you visit today you will notice that many of these locations that were there on opening day. No longer exist. Either their is a new attraction in their place, or it is simply shuttered up and forgotten about.
DCA has continually failed to meet the atendance projections for the past five years. The only time it is ever busy or crowded at DCA is when they run the 2-fer promotion and the So-CA residents must visit that park with their other ticket. And as soon as the 2-fer is done. The park is magically empty again.

There are currently no known plans for a Stitch's Great Escape style ride. And the plans for Midway Madness have also yet to be announced. There are however, plans for an Incredibles themed Robo-Coaster to go in the Timon parking-lot.

And yes the reason that the gate by TOT is not connected to FFF is because there is a road right there that is used for parade floats, and for other various back-stage purposes.

http://www.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=Disneyland&ll=33.80654,-117.917536&spn=0.0016,0.003369&t=k&om=1

In this picture you can see that FFF is an island, it is surrounded by service roads on all four sides. And if you follow that road that is betweent FFF and TOT you will see that it puts you out onto the parade route.

Well, thats all the rumor controll I can do for now.

The only time it is ever busy or crowded at DCA is when they run the 2-fer promotion and the So-CA residents must visit that park with their other ticket. And as soon as the 2-fer is done. The park is magically empty again.You forgot the times when Disneyland hits capacity closings and guests have no choice but to go to Disney's California Adventure, lol.

mean . . . come on, who wants to visit a CA themed park -in CA?

I can say...Out of state tourists, foreigners, and the ones who can't afford to go the California landmarks. Heck, I lived in California all of my life and I haven't seen half of the stuff outside of the park. That I have seen in California Adventure.

I think that DCA offers something different from the original across the street. Lol free tortillas and bread. Faster rides. Learn history. Find out what Disney character that is most like you. It's little more updated and modern.

I can say...Out of state tourists, foreigners, and the ones who can't afford to go the California landmarks. Heck, I lived in California all of my life and I haven't seen half of the stuff outside of the park. That I have seen in California Adventure.

Most people who go to the Disneyland resort ARE NOT tourists...

60% of people who go to Disneyland are Californian residents, so that 60% of people who don't want to see a park based around stuff they can already see in their own state...

Disney's California Adventure also doesn't really have any Original gate buster attractions... I think adding clones of already existent Disney attractions will not help...

The 2 new attractions that are slated to open at Disney's Californian Adventure, are also slated to open at Disney-MGM Studios... and earlier...

I think Disney's Californian Adventure needs its own "Expedition Everest" attraction to see a good turn-a-around, and get the park on a better more successful road...

BTW: I once read that the Disneyland parking lot, the same lot Disney's Californian Adventure now exists on, actually MADE MORE money than the theme park on some days...

you know how they use the old hunch back of notre Dame (spelt wrong) thearter is a picnic area now i wonder if later in the future it is going to become a attraction. and What about the Fantasyland therter i mean the Snow White show is off what are they going to to every time i am on the train i look inside the theater and it looks the same when are they going to change it!

The Snow White show is coming back from hiatus soon, and the Big Thunder Rach Picnic Area is where they would most likely place the next big E-ticket attraction. There aren't any known E-Ticket attractions in the works for that area at this time.

you know how they use the old hunch back of notre Dame (spelt wrong) thearter is a picnic area now i wonder if later in the future it is going to become a attraction. and What about the Fantasyland therter i mean the Snow White show is off what are they going to to every time i am on the train i look inside the theater and it looks the same when are they going to change it!
They dont have the snow white but last time I went I saw some Dance Shows.

Most people who go to the Disneyland resort ARE NOT tourists...

60% of people who go to Disneyland are Californian residents, so that 60% of people who don't want to see a park based around stuff they can already see in their own state...California is a huge state, it takes 12 hours minimum to go from the San Ysidro crossing to the Oregon Border and the state has 32 million people. To imply that all California residents are locals when visiting Disneyland is far from the truth. Geographically, Anyone living outside of San Bernardino, Riverside, San Diego, LA, Orange, Imperial, Ventura, & Santa Barbara Counties really can't be called locals. Its like saying Atlanta residents are part of the local Central Florida population.
I think Disney's Californian Adventure needs its own "Expedition Everest" attraction to see a good turn-a-around, and get the park on a better more successful road...Unfortunately, we don't have the kind of space for a ride that size. The remainder of the old parking lot behind California Adventure may not even fit a ride with the acreage of Expedition Everest. Space is very rare in the Disneyland Resort.

BTW: I once read that the Disneyland parking lot, the same lot Disney's Californian Adventure now exists on, actually MADE MORE money than the theme park on some days...Nearly mathmatically impossible in modern Disney Theme Park days, even if you use the current $10 parking fee per vehicle. Don't imply that Disneyland and the Anaheim Resort has been doing extremely poor. If that was the case and if it frequently happened, Disney would probably consider a hiring freeze, but the exact opposite has been happening with a major hotel building boom and redevelopment along Harbor Blvd and AVCB figures showing attendance and spending growing around 5% annually even with California Adventure's falling short of attendance goals.

So the snow white musical is on tour and is comming back to disneyland later this year??

So the snow white musical is on tour and is comming back to disneyland later this year??

I heard that show closed because it wasn't very successful and nobody really enjoyed it...

The Snow White show is coming back from hiatus soon, and the Big Thunder Rach Picnic Area is where they would most likely place the next big E-ticket attraction. There aren't any known E-Ticket attractions in the works for that area at this time.
where is hiatus ????????????:wave2:

I heard that show closed because it wasn't very successful and nobody really enjoyed it...
wouldn't that mean that they would have to change it which they didn't?:donald:

No, Hiatus is like an off season. . . but normally when somthing goes on hiatus at DL it doesn't come back.

then why didn't they change the fantasyland thearter?????????

^um.......because the show is coming back. why would they change the stage for the same show?

Space Mountain usually has the longest wait at DISNEYLAND lol!

Bump!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111 and is the lincoln thing going to come back after the fiftyith anerversery and snow white is comming back for last season show this summer....

Yes, Great Moment's With Mr. Lincoln will be coming back to the Opera House soon. . . and there is no need to bump this thread. It always ends up back on the top of the page anyway.

Are they going to stop the parade of Dreams?

Those are some pretty cool facts, but i have this huge book that i bought with disney facts from all the parks including DLR. Here's a WDW one. Did you know that test track was originally going to be this ride where you travel in a vintage ford convertable threw time?

yes they are going to stop the parade of dream
the last time will be at the 50th closing event

and i want to know the name of the book!

Those are some pretty cool facts, but i have this huge book that i bought with disney facts from all the parks including DLR. Here's a WDW one. Did you know that test track was originally going to be this ride where you travel in a vintage ford convertable threw time?

Not true.. Test track has and always was a thrill ride GM wanted..

The forum attraction you think of is what helped create the People mover for Disneyland. it was Fords Motor skyway. this attraction was at the New York Worlds fair. parts of it still exist. the grand canyon and Dino area of the train ride was from the attraction. the people mover was then based on that design....

later people movers such as WDWs was powered differently but still based on the same idea...

Are they going to stop the parade of Dreams?
No.. parade of dreams is a hit and will remain.. slightly retooled to remove references from the 50th celebration...

Disney never repalces a parade that fast.. who do you think they are?? oriental land company?

(come on.. Dreams come true has been at MK since 2001.... that should go away first.. maybe Paris.. oh wait.. they are building their own chassies and such..)

if you go on the train at dlr stay on the whole time

you should start at beggining of park, as the sights are great! you see dinos and grand canyon and many more behind the scenes stuff! dont just think it takes you places! it is really cool at night!

the grand canyon and Dino area of the train ride was from the attraction. the people mover was then based on that design....

the grand canyon was a seperate project from the primeval world. the grand canyon opened in 1958, whereas the primeval world opened, i believe, in 1966.


Disney never repalces a parade that fast.. who do you think they are?? oriental land company?


disney used to have a new parade every summer/ every other summer. hey atleast its better than the the parade of the stars. and i think block party bash is being replaced next year.

Block party bash is being sent to D-MGM-Studios... or a version of it is.. (Yay.. no more Stars and motorcars.. been there since 01)

and being replaced with a newer pixar.. i mean parade...

DSL's is popular.. and more of a traditional parade.. not to mention all brand new units...

oooo interesting facts!!
im just looking around vmk forums cuz im new at this
and i decided to read this cuz it seemed interesting!!

what is B & W??????????????

If your talking about my Signature.. B&W is Black & White....

Oh I always though B&W as in thr car company even though it's BMW haha. Anyways this post is really off topic.. sorry.

are they changing the drop sequence on TOT

what is TOT?

what is TOT?
Tower of Terror

the drop sequence is not changing on TOT for another year at the moment.. but everything is subject to change...

oh is it possible they will make a new tour for vmk at the parks soon?

last i heard they don´t have any plans to have the vmk tours ever again. i don´t see why not. vmk does get people into disney and the insider tours would help alot but i don´t think it´s worth it to disney. and we have to remember that even though we may love disney alot, disney just really wants our money. every other tour that you take at disneyland you have to pay for. so, no profit, means no tours.

Cap
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OK... pull up a chair (actually, you're on a computer right now... sitting... never mind!). I have a few stories for you:

First my credentials: Disneyland Park Character for a little more than 3 years (hence the title ZooCrewGirl, zoo crew is what we were actually called- don't know if they use that name so much anymore...)
(sorry if I duplicate! couldn't read every single post after 25 pgs! :)

A few random things: The buildings on Main Street (DL) - the buildings at the beginning of the street are taller than the ones at the end... Walt wanted DL to appear larger when you first arrive and shorter at the end of the day, when you are tired. Also, the names on the windows above are real people who have worked for Disney. Some one had mentioned the Fire Station (lights on meant Walt was in his apartment, etc), actually it was even more than that- if the doors to the whole station were closed, THEN he was there (or later, even others stayed there for the day -VIP's, etc.)

My own weird things (it was wild when I was there..) :pirate: Did you know that at one time they tried having a real person in POTC? He was called the Phantom (men ONLY; they tried a girl once (everything in Characters goes by height range, so if you were approx. 6 ft. you were able to do it) however, after having Phantom in there for a while, it was obvious that there were going to be problems... first, people weren't used to this, so you'd have guys and girls, relaxing, thinking it's a kiddie ride and POW, their doom buggy spins around and there's this guy, mask, cape and all... well, for some reason quite a few of them decided to punch the Phantom! The Phantom had a remote control device in his hand that he could use to stop the ride when stuff like this happened or if his cape got caught under the buggy (!) or whatever. Mostly, they just got punched. People just weren't expecting it and for guys I guess it was just gut-reaction. Alot of people loved it though. (only lasted a few months)
They thought (for a blip of a minute) about putting live pirates (in POTC) in that dark narrow straight-way that has high ledges on each side... you know the one I mean? It would have been my height and I was dying to do it!! lol Oh, btw, the guy in Mansion was located in the hallway with the doors, on the left side. 2 guys who did Phantom were totally bored (and criminal!) and stole some of the extra parts that were on a table out of sight in the ride (it was mentioned earlier)- well, they took the scroll pictures from the "elevator" and pieces of armor; tons of stuff- they were SO fired, of course... we were glad, that wasn't cool...

Someone mentioned earlier that Malificent was almost always a man- again, the height requirement-thing, it really didn't matter to WHO you were, just "were you the right height", so lots of the tall characters are men, lots of the short are women (and I think you know who I mean by 'short'...) :wave2: It mattered who you were though, of course, for the characters that can talk (face characters)- that's a whole other story...

The dwarves in DL must walk in this order: Doc, Grumpy, Happy, Sleepy, Sneezy, Bashful, Dopey. Happy is the fatter one, Doc has glasses, the rest are pretty obvious.

There are two mice that, very rarely, get to travel around with Cinderella in the park as she supposedly teaches them etiquette; they are Suzy (green dress) and Perla (purple dress). You probably know this, but to tell Chip and Dale apart: Chip has a small dark nose (like a chocolate chip) and Dale's is larger and reddish-brown.

ok, now lots of stuff has been posted on this, but this is from my perspective: the new park at DLResort... my family owns a large shop, right there across from DL near the major corners (Harbor and Katella)... we have Never heard that they are NOT building the new water-themed park... we have heard that plans are going quietly along... the produce stand is still there, however you'll notice that there aren't really 'crops' anymore... Disney may not be telling it's employees anything (hence the previous posts here) but from the 'business side' of Anaheim, everything has continued in a positive direction. And regard to it being disconnected from the other two parks- think of WDW... there are some things you need a shuttle to get to... you know the ones I mean. Also, think about how they have poured so much money into the ART busses? (Anaheim Resort Transit- it ferries people around from the hotels to Disney) The new park will be just another stop..

alright- that's it for me!!!

Sorry for the long post!! There are SO many stories I left out! I don't think they'd be that interesting here because they aren't 'trivia' per se... just really funny stories!

ZooCrewGirl (vmk: VeryGoodFriend) :CastMem:

ok, now lots of stuff has been posted on this, but this is from my perspective: the new park at DLResort... my family owns a large shop, right there across from DL near the major corners (Harbor and Katella)... we have Never heard that they are NOT building the new water-themed park... I suggest you get some investor/shareholder materials, or attend one of Disney's corporate meetings.

Bob Iger has publically stated there are no plans for a third gate. While he acknowledges they have kicked around some ideas, nothing was ever committed. And in the last full shareholder's meeting at the Pond last March, he was very straightforward: "We will not even consider opening a third gate in Anaheim until the second gate becomes successful."

As DCA is, as of today, still a failure and a financial drain on the company, the prospects of a third gate continue to be remote at best.

wow thx for all the facts about Disneyland
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VONS is like soo awesome

These are great people post some more :)

Call me weird, but I quite enjoyed the slower pace of Disney's California Adventure. I liked that I wasn't being swarmed by people or waiting in huge lines.

I liked being able to walk around in a more "naturey" type atmosphere and I LOVED the boardwalk type setting.

I didn't even ride but like two rides in DCA, yet I still found the park to be very enjoyable. Plus, I got to meet Stitch! :)

i hear there is a new ride near california screamin is that true??? that is why it is covered up and why hasn't anything been planned for the millionare building when i go like i don't see any difference but just a empty space building.....

:-) oh yeah for my fact ummm splash mountain is 5 stories high...

There are actually Disneyland cats.
If you go to the end of the Train thing in california adventure, cats usually hang out on the warm tracks. you probably wont see them in the winter, but if you have the chance suring the summer times, they're really cute. It was funny because each of them looked like a cat from disney movies. For example there was a bright orange one that looked like teh tiger from the jungle book, and a black one that looked like bagheera. sp

Yes, they are building a Pixar ride similar to Buzz Lightyear's Astro Blasters, for now it is being called Midway Mania opening around 2008. They are also planning to change the parks theme.

I have been reading this thread for a while now and I seen somewhere that the Yetis' name is "Harold" so when I go to disneyland next time I am on the Matterhorn I will scream "HI HAROLD!!!" at him.heh :D

:-) disneyland......... finding nemo comes out when like may? of next year too bad matterhorn is closed but it will be open december 16!! :-)

what is the theme for Midway Mania?

The theme is Toy Story I think. :)

cool thx.... did you know that the monorail used to lead directly to Disneyland hotel

The Monorail was also planned to extend to one of the local hotels across Katella. The planning got so far, in fact, that the hotel built an opening for the trains. But the city said nothing could be built across Katella, as it is a safety route. The hotel has since blocked up the opening, and apparently, you can see mismatched windows where the opening used to exist.

Now, all of this was told to me as I was being trained to drive the Monorails, and I have forgotten the name of the hotel, nor have I ever seen the supposed patched windows.

And as far as the Monorail leading directly to the Disneyland Hotel, well, it still does. The station is in exactly the same location it used to be, prior to Downtown Disney's construction. It's the Hotel that has moved, so to speak. The Walt Disney Travel Company and Concourse shops that were adjacent to the station have been removed to make way for the Rainforest Cafe, ESPN Zone, etc. This makes the Hotel itself appear to be farther away.

The only actual track relocation since the Monorail's inception has been due to the Indiana Jones Adventure. DCA's construction didn't even alter the trains' course.

i thought now it only went to down town disney and back currently ???? or do you mean when it reopens january 22 i believe splash mountain is closing till may i think they are closing it this month :-( and tom sawyers island is closing for the pirates premere i want to go but i don't know how to get a ticket for the premere... how do you get a ticket????

was it the paradise pier hotel??? that you were talking about

The Downtown Disney station and the former Disneyland Hotel station are one and the same. And no, it was not Paradise Pier. It was either the Hilton or the Marriott across Katella.

wow that is far.... away from the park strange....are they planing to do the pirate theme on tom sawyers island that will cost like billions of dollars

There are lots of things that I must learn about the parks.

OFF TOPIC: Yay! My 201st post! :D

hahahahaha MIDWAY MANIA opens 2008! YIPPIE!

what is the theme for Midway Mania?

what is midway mania?
i havent looked here in a LOONG time, could someone explain it though?

Midway Mania is ride being put in at DCA. It's where all the Midway games used to be underneath California Screamin'.

I'm a Disneyland-crazy-person, nearly all of these facts or so called secrets are like the basic info. Thanks for the refresh, great times at Disneyland.

does anyone think it is possible the people mover would come back and if it did how would you get up there????

They would need to rebuild the walkway that's now occupied by a planter, DVC booths and a churro cart. :D

OH cool i went on the space mountain on jan 3rd and it is awesome its considered Rockit mountain durring grad night that was awesome! too bad it is till spring :-)

On the submariune voyage they are going to have an island that you pass with the seagulls saying " Mine Mine! "

hahaha that sounds sooo cute!!

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If Anyone Knows Anymore Facts Please Post!! LoL i Read All Of The 37 Pgs in A Period Of A Week :eek:LOL
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OK, OK. Want more trivia, I'll give you some.

In fact, in honor of the new room, I'll give some Club 33 trivia.

Club 33 is an exclusive club in New Orleans Square that serves food and can be used by members as a meeting area. It originally created by Walt Disney mostly to entertain executives from companies that sponsor attractions. Walt planned to occupy an apartment next to the club. Those rooms are now the Gallery.

The club got it's name in a simple way: because of a technicality, the streets in New Orleans Square were given actual names and the "shops" given actual numbers and addresses. The club is 33 Royal St. Hence the 33.

The only way to get into the club is to be a member or know one who invites you. Memberships are expensive: there are three basic types of memberships, with join fees of $ 20,000, $10,000, and $7,500. After that, annuals fees are about $3,000 to $5,000 a year.

You don't get much for that. A little more private dining, at about $60-$100 per person. But everyone who eats there gets free entrance to Disneyland, so you about break even in most cases.

There is a second Club 33 in Tokyo Disneyland. Otherwise, no other Disney parks have clubs of this sort.

The Jewel of Orleans store, has jewlery that can go up to very high prices!

"Did you know that the Matterhorn was moved from Tomorrowland to Fantasyland around 1971? No, they didn’t use lots of casters and a really strong tractor. It wasn’t moved physically. Disneyland guidebooks through 1970 listed the Matterhorn Bobsleds under Tomorrowland. By 1972, the Matterhorn Bobsleds attraction listing had moved to Fantasyland, where it remains in current Disneyland guide maps." ~ Yesterland

Another Fact about a Disneyland: My great Uncle was one of the original costume designers for the Pirates of the Caribbean ride. It's fun what you find out about your family when you just ask them "Have you ever been to disneyland" and then they give you a whole story:xmassmile:

Something similar...

Sadly, I discovered that my grandfather turned down an engineering role in Disneyland in 1955 because he didn't like the interviewer. Arg. ;-)

And on the subject of submarines... at one time in Disneyland's history, if you added up all the boats, Disneyland had the 8th largest peacetime fleet in the world.

There is a second Club 33 in Tokyo Disneyland. Otherwise, no other Disney parks have clubs of this sort.
Yup, It's located on Main Street though, not New Orleans Square I belive.

A second Club 33 is located in Tokyo Disneyland. Rather than being located in New Orleans Square, it is located on Center Street off Main Street. Members of Disneyland's Club 33 do not have reciprocal privileges in the Tokyo club.

i believe FInding nemo submarine voyage is done and under testing because the filled the water fully now :-)

Wow, these facts rock! Someone should put them all together like a little book! :D

its testing but definitley not done. if you'll notuice, they've put dams at the entrances to the caves. they are still not done with the showscenes inside the caves. they've filled up the outer lagoon in order to test the mechanics of the subs and the filtration system

^ I learned that on my latest trip to DLR waiting in line for the monirail ^_^

These are some really interesting facts!! But I'm not sure about this one:
"Feral cats live in disneyland. they are mostly in critter country near the hungry bear, inside the castle, and in condor flats at DCA
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How would the cats get in? And also... wouldn't the staff take them out? Even though they are small and are timid to come out, there could be accidents. The cat's maybe shy, but they still have tooth and claw.

The cats are plentiful. Most come from the houses surrounding the Parks, originally. The cats can be seen in broad daylight. Mostly, they lurk near the backside of DLR (in the trees on either side of Small World), but I have spotted them in the Indiana Jones queue (we called that cat Hobbes), lounging near the three windmills on Storybookland, and the far side of the Matterhorn. I recently spotted a pair of kittens in the Redwood play area in DCA. The staff there called them their little mountain lions.

You will find them most places where there is tree cover. And there is no way (or reason) to get rid of them. The food supply is too plentiful. Which would you rather have? A park overrun with cats or mice? Sorry Mickey.

The cats are plentiful. Most come from the houses surrounding the Parks, originally. The cats can be seen in broad daylight. Mostly, they lurk near the backside of DLR (in the trees on either side of Small World), but I have spotted them in the Indiana Jones queue (we called that cat Hobbes), lounging near the three windmills on Storybookland, and the far side of the Matterhorn. I recently spotted a pair of kittens in the Redwood play area in DCA. The staff there called them their little mountain lions.

You will find them most places where there is tree cover. And there is no way (or reason) to get rid of them. The food supply is too plentiful. Which would you rather have? A park overrun with cats or mice? Sorry Mickey.

In the summer time, at DCA, you can see a few laying on the warm train tracks on your way over to sorin over california. The tracks that i'm talking about are part of that really long train with all the food places in it.

what was in american sings (before innoventions) i know their anamotronics went to splash but what was it a show?

indiana jones is the other path where they keep the cars???

does anyone now have any update on nemo i mean like the plot of the going to be ride.....?

yeah i saw that tooo who likes rocking space mountain WOOT!!!! so fun lol what was in american sings (before innoventions) i know their anamotronics went to splash but what was it a show????? and indiana jones is the other path where they keep the cars???

America sings was about songs from different places in America, and I'm not sure what path you are talking about in Indi. If your talking about the paths that lead into the room with the idol, it is just one room but with differednt effects, and I dont think you need to keep the cars in a different room because the whole ride is indoors. But there could be a room for repairs. Who knows?

But there could be a room for repairs. Who knows?
I know. ;-)

There is a maintenance bay, and there is at least one vehicle back there at all times.

did you know...

That when DLR first opened they marked the good tree red and the trees that had go red, but the guy who had to chop down the trees was color blind and so he just chopped down a whole bunch of random trees?


BWT CHURROS ROCK HARD!!

Did you know when Rocket Rod was still open.. They planned to extend the track all around Disneyland?

Oh and did you know... When you go to the Monorail station you can get a great glimpse of the upcoming: Finding Nemo's Submarine Voyage!

When Submarine Voyage is complete they will close down the monorail to put in the new retro monorails!

There was a recent exchange of posts about a message containing several "facts," one or two that were possible but a slew that were simply false. I won't try to guess at the motivation for some of the statements.

The post has been removed, as well as the discussion. I will take a moment, however, to make a small statement.

Posting information that is knowingly false is against the Forums rules, and in some cases is even considered trolling. There are several reasons for this, not the least of which is many members are very young and are not experienced enough to tell when something is done in jest or old enough to "get" sarcasm.

If a post of this nature is meant as a joke, and it's not obviousit's meant as a joke, then it needs something to show it's not real (such as a "jk" or an appropriate smilie). The post in question started with a real fact, but had a couple of lines there were either very wrong or in poor taste, depending on whether you viewed it as a joke. At no time did the poster say anything about joking.

This thread is "facts" of Disneyland. If you state something in error, OK, you made a mistake. If you knowingly post outrageous statements without consideration of our target membership, that's simply wrong.

These are some really interesting facts!! But I'm not sure about this one:
"Feral cats live in disneyland. they are mostly in critter country near the hungry bear, inside the castle, and in condor flats at DCA
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How would the cats get in? And also... wouldn't the staff take them out? Even though they are small and are timid to come out, there could be accidents. The cat's maybe shy, but they still have tooth and claw.


Just as a note on the cats I can verify this is infact true.

Yes there are feral cats at Disneyland and Lots of them. Disneyland Actualy brought these cats in to the park a long time ago, Circled D even takes care of them when they need it, and they use to have a feral cat program. They serve as Pest Controll. The Cats are fed only at a few locations, they are considerd wild and some even have kittens in the park. They roam back stage mostly during park hours, there are alot in critter country and near the barn, any area they want really. Disney cant leave out any poison for obvious reasons, and far better to have the Cats then The Large Packer Rats.

The post has been removed, as well as the discussion.
Thanks, GG. I did my best to attempt to refute some points, but you have a better solution. ;-)

Here's a fact for you. The Rivers of America used to be stocked with catfish. Originally, you were allowed to catch them. But Walt was afraid someone would try to eat one, so they were removed.

The River, however, is still home to many kinds of animals. There are very large orange carp (similar to koi fish), herons, kingfishers, clams, and at one point, a box turtle.

There was a recent exchange of posts about a message containing several "facts," one or two that were possible but a slew that were simply false. I won't try to guess at the motivation for some of the statements.

The post has been removed, as well as the discussion. I will take a moment, however, to make a small statement.

Posting information that is knowingly false is against the Forums rules, and in some cases is even considered trolling. There are several reasons for this, not the least of which is many members are very young and are not experienced enough to tell when something is done in jest or old enough to "get" sarcasm.

If a post of this nature is meant as a joke, and it's not obviousit's meant as a joke, then it needs something to show it's not real (such as a "jk" or an appropriate smilie). The post in question started with a real fact, but had a couple of lines there were either very wrong or in poor taste, depending on whether you viewed it as a joke. At no time did the poster say anything about joking.

This thread is "facts" of Disneyland. If you state something in error, OK, you made a mistake. If you knowingly post outrageous statements without consideration of our target membership, that's simply wrong.


Thank you for clearing it up GreatGatsby
I'm sure everyone will now understand these are facts :)

may i re-add my corrections to some of these "facts?"

is there going to be an octopus in the nemo ride???? like the old ride??

Nah, maybe Just Bruce( the great white) instead of the Octopus. Or even that Creepy looking Lantern fish!

Did you know that they closed Splash??!?!?!? again :-( till like may

its just a rehab. there won't be any significant changes

i know its just refurbishment but i will miss it cause it takes forever to clean water and stuff :-( lol anyways i hear they are officially opening a pirates lair on tom sawyer's island from a couple of sites i am currently looking for some more info on this :-)

why doesn't we have a happily ever after for snow white instead of the book i mean like all the other parks got them

why doesn't we have a happily ever after for snow white instead of the book i mean like all the other parks got themMostly space. There's not much room and they ran out of it when designing the ride.

Bear in mind the Magic Kingdom version originally didn't have the Happily After Ever ending either. That was changed when the ride was rebuilt some years back.

hey didn't they recently moved the toon town sign -i am talking about the one on the "hills"- they moved it from behind mickey's house to like the hills behind rodger rabbit cartoon spin

There are no hills behind Car Toon Spin.

Mickey lives in the Neighborhood end of Toontown, with the trees and rolling hillsides. Car Toon Spin is in the Downtown end of Toontown. Just large buildings.

well for sure they moved the toon town sign i am sure of it

What would be the point of moving it? Did you see it moved?

its not moved

really? hmmm that is strange i thought it was....... :-(

where are the hidden mickeys in mickey's house?

Oh wow I really need to catch up on my disney knowledge. Thanks for posting those:mickeymo:

i am not sure how come haunted mansion is not changing disney kinda went like part way with this new "storyline" so does anyone know anything about this?

what new story line? before the upgrades, it was just a bunch of scenes tied together by the fact that they all involved ghosts or other spooky things. its still just that

the story for the haunted mansion is that

constance would marry guys (then bump them off -- changed by moderator)
which is why in the attic scean you see pictuers (with the disappearing husbands)

thats the story for that particular scene. it does not tie in to the rest of the mansion, which is what i assumed trangerine was asking about.

what about the stoy including master gracy and all that stuff something with leota trying to take over the mansion and trap him but the spell reflected so she is trapped in that glob thingy and he hung himself up there also the portraits are of butlers people related to him and the lady blowing out the birthday cake is his aunt or something IT KINDA MESSES IT UP because has to be more to it than that and before the bride changed where they had the i do's she was the bride of master gracy but she was told not to go up into the atic and open something i am unclear of this but i am sure it has a certain story plot

i've never once heard that story you just told. but it, like others about the mansion, are purely fictional and made up by the fans. WED built the ride with no intention of a cohesive narrative structure. the ride is strung together by a series of lossely related vignettes.

also, the "I DO's" were never in the original ride. they were added in the mid 90's during a mansion enhancement that included the hearst and pet cemetaries outside. before that, they were just pop up ghosts that would scream incredibly loud. that coupled with the creepy bride (which was also updated in the mid 90's) used to scare the heck out of me as a kid.

Here's the deal. We've discussed this before in another thread I can't locate right now.

When The Haunted Mansion was originally created, it was one of the few attraction without a real backstory (unlike, say Pirates, which was based on a true event that took place in what's now St Petersburg, Florida). The Haunted Mansion was only intended to be a general "experience."

There was a little story about a couple of kids trapped in the house and that was released on a record in the early 1970's, but that was never followed up on.

The Disney Company did indeed toy with a Master Gracey backstory while Eisner ran Disney, but nothing much was ever done with it other than adding a portrait. There really wasn't a huge plan for the Gracey line. The film division created a story for the move version, but since it was a bomb in the theaters, all connection to Gracey slowly disappeared.

What's happening now is an attempt to make a solid backstory about a "black widow" who married rich men just to inherit their wealth. There are a number of changes planned for the attraction based on this new story, and a few have been implemented. The most noticable is the attic: the generic bride has been replaced with a "holographical" bride who's bouquet is replaced by a knife or axe, etc.; piles of different wedding gifts (from different weddings . . .) in various states of unwrap; wedding portraits where the grooms fade away as you pass them.

The other change is in Leota's room, where the images of the husbands fade in and out as if they are trying to reach out "from the other side." They seem to have problems with this, so apparently it's not always running. I have not seen it myself, but did talk to a friend who witnessed it.

I've heard of other minor plans to go with this new story, but I have not seen anything of them yet, so I don't know how set those ideas are.

I hope that helps you all a bit.

What's happening now is an attempt to make a solid backstory about a "black widow" who married rich men just to inherit their wealth. There are a number of changes planned for the attraction based on this new story, and a few have been implemented.

Sources?

The other change is in Leota's room, where the images of the husbands fade in and out as if they are trying to reach out "from the other side." They seem to have problems with this, so apparently it's not always running. I have not seen it myself, but did talk to a friend who witnessed it.


are you refering to the pictures in the attic? there is no such thing in leota's room. the only thing close to this islast year when they added a face to the area that use to have the glowing grren dot that moved around. and those pictures in the attic seem to always work when i see them

Sources?DLR and WDI employees (sometimes known as Cast Members, but I'm not referring to those on stage). It's also been discussed on this site previously.

Furthermore, much of this this has also been reported on several Disney fan sites by people like Jim Hill, Al Lutz, and David Keonig.are you refering to the pictures in the attic? Nope. I had already discussed the pictures in the attic and had moved on when I brought up the Leota seance.

The idea with the effect in Leota's room is that, being a seance, she's contacting those who have passed on. So what it's supposed to look like is those husbands "materialize" and "dematerialize" in attempts to contact Leota.

Since posting my last message, I've heard from one other person who claims to have seen something in Leota's room late last year that seemed new and could have been this effect, but they could not be sure. Again, I've not seen it myself (I rarely go on Haunted Mansion anymore), so I can't confirm it's implementation.

I still miss the old story I first heard about the ship's captain who owned the house (hence the ship weathervane and the portrait of the ship in the hallway). He was set to marry, but the bride found out he was actually a pirate, and he killed her. I learned this back in the early '90s from cast members on the attraction. This was just as "official" as any other story, and still nobody was aware of it.

I like that they are trying to create a backstory now. The effects that they have added are done fairly well. Seems like every time I go on the ride, there is something new.

i found a video of the ride, its pretty good.
i would share it but the site is not allowed.
i will try and find a video of it.
video im watching now is of the new haunted mansion.
bride scared me so badly.


♥Van

i found a video of the ride, its pretty good.
i would share it but the site is not allowed.Send me a link to the video by PM and I'll determine for you if it's OK to post.

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i found a video of the ride, its pretty good.
i would share it but the site is not allowed.
i will try and find a video of it.
video im watching now is of the new haunted mansion.
bride scared me so badly.


♥Van


Haha, have you ever actually been on the new HM? The bride was one of my new favorite parts ;)

Great facts, by the way :)

~Pink

does anyone know if it is possible for disneyland to have any more rides?

Always possible. Rocket Rods is a currently unused space that needs to be filled.

But they are running very short of expansion room. Toontown was the last major growth, and that took up a great deal of backstage area. Most likely, we'll see retheming of existing attractions (Tarzan's Treehouse) or replacement of older attractions (Winnie the Pooh's ride).

ah, sorry peoples. i just realized video a video from banned site.

The Big Thunder ranch area has lots of room to add stuff but I guess they sell that area for parties and stuff so idk really. But for just a area with land that's not all used up that's a pretty big area. And also all behind the main street shops on the side where Mad hatter is at was gonna be themed streets from some old plans but I think that's all major backstage operations over there so if they were gonna something to the park then they'd have to change a lot of stuff back there. And I know some peeps hate to hear anything about changing anything that's already in the park but I think Autopia uses a crazy huge amount of land for just a so-so ride. There used to be boats behind the area between Small World and Matterhorn and the autopia track runs out by there too. I think if the autopia track in that area was cut back a little bit it would make a lot of land for another cool ride.

Big Thunder Ranch is sort of backed up against the train tracks, so unless they build a tunnel under like Toontown, it's not horribly practical. But Toontown also had more room behind the tracks to expand. There's not a lot of backstage room for the Ranch.

A long time ago, they were going to create a Hollywoodland-type area off Main Street, behind the Mad Hatter as you said. There is a large amount of room there, and nothing that vital. But it would have clashed with the turn-of-the-century feel of Main Street (among other reasons), so it was scrapped.

And Autopia is a bit of a challenge. Most of that land is actually the submarine caverns, with the Autopia tracks built on top of it. Structurally, not much can be done there. It won't support a great deal of additional weight. The Motor Boat Cruise took up the rest of the area that wasn't used by the caverns, and isn't really all that big. Not sure what can be done with that area.

OOO what about the hunch back of notre dam stage show that area where they put satalites i think lol

That's the Big Thunder Ranch.

well its pretty much behind it :-) you know for toy story mania how people sit back to back? how will the car turn without the other person get mad lol

though pictures i have seen like the big thunder ranch is closed i think... not sure but i think

The Hunchback area is closed. The open portion of the Ranch is currently Woody's Roundup and the Petting Zoo.

i love the petting zoo! :-) WHOO! is there a way to get the pirates premiere tickets? :pirate:

Ok, one more fact on indy and I'll switch to something else, I promise :)

During the grand finale when you duck under the boulder, look up. You should be able to see the boulder stop dead in it's tracks right before it hits our beloved adventurer.



Actually the boulder never moves it just rotates on an axis. The jeep slowly moves forward creating the illusion that the boulder is moving. You can see this if your in the back row and you look back.

yes sir :-) and is the skeleton weaing the mickey ears still in the mummy room on indiana jones ride?

Well, the boulder does move forward a bit. But that's all I'll say about that effect. ;-)

And yes, Bones is still in there.

YAY too bad the car moves fast cause its hard to look for him in the ride...

That's what makes him a hidden Mickey....

lol i know...... but like he is in the back of mummy room just can't see clearly :-( ohhh nemo looks like it going well :-)

Actually, he's one of the first mummies you come to. But he is facing the same way your car is going, with his back to the wall. You have to turn around backwards to see him.

OOO has anyone know anything more about midway mania... and how the cars are going to work???

well i dont have many, but here goes:
-so everyone knows about the basketball court in the matterhorn right? ok well the story behind that was during the construction. Builing hieght requirements in Amador said that only buildings used for excersie and what not were allowed to excede the normal limitations. because of this, Walt Disney built a small basketball court just near the top. it is really only the size of a key in a basketbal court though. cast members that used to climb the mountain side just before tinkerbell's flight [which i believe is no longer showing], well they would play basketball in there spair time in the small court. [ps. in disneyland]
-although i have never been, in disneyworld the haunted mansion is just behind it's a small world. as you know, many rides are disguised just like this underground and whatnot

-i thougt this was interesting: on the jungle cruise, just after you start your journey, the guide will tell you to look to your right in order to see strange human life forms. while i was on the ride, i wondered how this could possible be down, seeing as how it was rehearsed and how would they know for sure that ppl would walk by? my questions were answred as soon as i got off our next ride: indy j. the exit from that ride always walks past the jungle boats tour and for that reason, they know that ppl will always be going past.
-the in short move "hunny i shrunk the audience" [at disneyland] when there is aparently mice running through your feet, it may seem completely real, but it is actually just blowing air through small holes.

well. thats all i could really remember. i just love knowing disney trivia! everytime i go, i can always impress ppl [ppl i go with lol] on the cool mysteries of disneyland and all teh cool trivia [that as i said before, i love]

i hope that they will consider opening rocket rods again :-)

well i dont have many, but here goes:
-so everyone knows about the basketball court in the matterhorn right? ok well the story behind that was during the construction. Builing hieght requirements in Amador said that only buildings used for excersie and what not were allowed to excede the normal limitations. because of this, Walt Disney built a small basketball court just near the top. it is really only the size of a key in a basketbal court though. cast members that used to climb the mountain side just before tinkerbell's flight [which i believe is no longer showing], well they would play basketball in there spair time in the small court. [ps. in disneyland]
Actually, you can't play during park hours. The walls are very thin, and you'd hear it clearly from outside the mountain. Plus these days, the floor boards are so rotten, that that room is off-limits.

-although i have never been, in disneyworld the haunted mansion is just behind it's a small world. as you know, many rides are disguised just like this underground and whatnot
No rides at WDW go underground. The water table is too high, and the rides would flood. All rides that drop start high, and descend to ground level.

i hope that they will consider opening rocket rods again :-)
Not likely. That ride did too much damage to that aged track. It needs to be either massively retrofitted for a fast attraction, or rebuilt as a slower one (my vote).

then the PEOPLE MOVER!

are they going to have that princess fair thing until A year of a million dreams theme is gone??

The other change is in Leota's room, where the images of the husbands fade in and out as if they are trying to reach out "from the other side." They seem to have problems with this, so apparently it's not always running. I have not seen it myself, but did talk to a friend who witnessed it.I have an update for this. The face is there alright. I finally saw it last week.

The face (there's only one apparently) is to the left of the entrance to Leota's seance room. But when you first enter this room, you are facing right, towards Leota, so you don't see it immediately. Instead, as you circle the table, you get a view of the entrance, and, behind the Doombuggies, there is a spot on the wall where an aquamarine light (with a trail) travels randomly. The light is still there, but they have added the face on that spot. Pretty goulish one, and it appears and disappears as if it's trying to enter the room but not quite making it.

It appears the bride has been altered slightly, too. Perhaps to make her look more eerie.

Wow. these facts are awesome!! lol

nemo opens june11 i think

it is possible that there may be a carland in the future at california adventure

Here is 1 I have for the Indiana jones ride at DLR

when you wait in line, there is a room with bamboo polls, 1 of them you walk up to it, and then you grab it and shake it and it looks like you break it but you dont. then it makes like a loud boom sound then look up and you can see like spikes comming down but they only come down like a foot from the ceiling.

Nice Thread ;)

I Also heard a rumor at WDW that there maybe going to make like an underwater land


^ I learned that on my latest trip to DLR waiting in line for the monirail ^_^

These are some really interesting facts!! But I'm not sure about this one:
"Feral cats live in disneyland. they are mostly in critter country near the hungry bear, inside the castle, and in condor flats at DCA
"
How would the cats get in? And also... wouldn't the staff take them out? Even though they are small and are timid to come out, there could be accidents. The cat's maybe shy, but they still have tooth and claw.

Yeah this is true bc I remember when I went to DLR a while ago. we were eating at this place. it was outside. So we were eating and i looked over and the other half of the tables outside were roped off. so then i had like a hissy fit/tempertantrum and I went under the ropes to go behind the building and I saw like 4 little cats standing on the tracks and then they ran into the bushes near by and then the train passed

Question when is tom sawyer's island going to open!!!!! i hear they are shooting the 25th

nemo is now visible and you can see they are testing it, it opens june 11, but AP holders can have a chance to ride it on the fifth or the sixth

Pirates 3 World Premiere is on may 19th
On the 25th Pirates Lair on Tom's Sawyers Island will be opened.

Haunted Mansion dimmed its lights to make it feel more spookier

wow some of these things i knew but now i know tons of more facts about DLR

Just a question for anyone who knows the EXACT and TRUE answer:

Why does Fantasyland smell so bad? I have heard that it is because it is new the sewer. I don't know if that is ture. Also, I was writing notes about interesting things I saw in DLR last time I went, so I wanted to know if there is anything special about it:

There is a pink jewl in the Peter Pan line in one of the "sewers". Is there any significance to that?

In Indy, when you see the rock, and you are backing up, does the car back up, or the scene back up? Or both?

For the Sword in the Stone, is the button that you press to "release" the sword in one of the ride rooms or is it in like plain sight?

Is there a Dasiy character that walks around during park hours?

Also, when I was waiting for Jack Sparrow in New Orleans, there was a show that is up in the balcony of the Gallery, or somewhere very near there. They need to update what they say, because I was there on a Monday, when they didn't have fireworks and he said, "Let's meet when those beams of light go up in the sky." Or something like that. There were no fireworks that day.


I can't find the paper I wrote them on, but these are a few questions I have.

In Indy, when you see the rock, and you are backing up, does the car back up, or the scene back up? Or both?The car moves forward slower while the "scene" backs up.

To be more detailed, the rock (which is spinning on an axle) stays in one place, the car moves aheard slowly, and the round cave itself moves forward away from the car. The cave movement does two things:

1) makes it appear as if you and the car are backing up

2) uncovers the part of the track that slopes downhill under the rock, which you move down when the car starts again.

You can actually see this happen if you are sitting in the back row of the car and turn to look behind you as the rock scene plays out. I would not recommend it if you have motion sickness, as the motion is unexpected and can confuse your senses.

I've got a real neat and funny fact.

There was a new cast member who went to work at the magic kingdom in Florida, it was his first day on the job, and he was ALONE. So he went to the Haunted Mansion, and DUSTED all the cobwebs, and dust, and so they had to close the ride down for about two hours to put all the dust back where it was.

"Feral cats live in disneyland. they are mostly in critter country near the hungry bear, inside the castle, and in condor flats at DCA
"
How would the cats get in? And also... wouldn't the staff take them out? Even though they are small and are timid to come out, there could be accidents. The cat's maybe shy, but they still have tooth and claw.

Yes, that is true. There are feral cats in the Park. They are most likely strays from the houses surrounding the Park. Disneyland is an excellent source of food for them, and there are -plenty- of hiding places. And why would Disneyland want to get rid of them? They keep down the rodent population (sorry, Mickey).

For the Sword in the Stone, is the button that you press to "release" the sword in one of the ride rooms or is it in like plain sight?

Neither. Merlin has a magic "garage door opener" that releases the pin holding the blade.

I've got a real neat and funny fact.

There was a new cast member who went to work at the magic kingdom in Florida, it was his first day on the job, and he was ALONE. So he went to the Haunted Mansion, and DUSTED all the cobwebs, and dust, and so they had to close the ride down for about two hours to put all the dust back where it was.

Sounds more like an urban myth. They never leave cast members alone on their first day, and most newhires are so nervous, they wouldn't touch a thing. Besides, it would take more than two hours to remove the dust. He would have been noticed. ;-)

I've got a real neat and funny fact.

There was a new cast member who went to work at the magic kingdom in Florida, it was his first day on the job, and he was ALONE. So he went to the Haunted Mansion, and DUSTED all the cobwebs, and dust, and so they had to close the ride down for about two hours to put all the dust back where it was.Sounds more like an urban myth. They never leave cast members alone on their first day, and most newhires are so nervous, they wouldn't touch a thing. Besides, it would take more than two hours to remove the dust. He would have been noticed. ;-)It is at best an urban myth.

The Haunted Mansion areas are considered "hot sets" (a Hollywood term meaning nothing is to be touched by anyone on a film set because if something is moved, it messes up continuity between different shots of the same scene).

This means no one is to touch anything there unless they are authorized, and this is something told to every cast member who works the attraction.

The dust itself is another issue that disproves the myth. The dust is a special material named “Fuller’s Earth”. This stuff is applied with a special sprayer by imagineers only - not maintenance people - and while it does not necessary stick, it's obvious from close up that it's not dust. It's a powder, similar in some respects to facial powder.

And Jacques is no doubt correct that a newbie employee would be noticed messing around with the Mansion sets: there are cameras and motion detectors everywhere along the attraction. Recently. some teens apparently tried to make off with a prop from the DLR mansion attic, whereupon the doombuggies were immediately stopped and the kids involved were escorted from the attraction.

question are they doing any more changes to haunted mansion at disneyland?? or is that the last change the attic

Recently. some teens apparently tried to make off with a prop from the DLR mansion attic, whereupon the doombuggies were immediately stopped and the kids involved were escorted from the attraction.


wow those teens were really dumb. lol

back on topic. anyone else know more facts of disneyland?

i saw this backstage area where they keep the unussed boats for jungle cruse which is behind the left side of mainstreet behind the stores and shops

question are they doing any more changes to haunted mansion at disneyland?? or is that the last change the attic

Last change? Hopefully, there is no such thing.

wow those teens were really dumb.

Teens. Enough said.

i saw this backstage area where they keep the unussed boats for jungle cruse which is behind the left side of mainstreet behind the stores and shops

Occasionally, on really busy days, they open the backstage area to re-route the guests exiting Main Street. It's a good opportunity to see the backside of Jungle.

thats awesome has nemo started their soft openings yet