Hey All, Recently i have thought of a idea after a tough night last night of Helping Flamingo..let me explain it first..
First of all, I know most of you leaders have helped staff in a game, or an event and have u ever noticed some new ppl not listening u for example..
HOST_SoAndSo goes AFK..And ppl are Saying LET ME IN!!! Dont make me Report u!!!!! And All u can do is say,..Host_SoAndSo is Afk and will return in a few moments, plz wait till she returns..By then, they have reported u and left the room O_o. I have gotten this understand from last night when the ride was broken and Flamingo went to fix it. Me and CL_(Not saying any names) Thought of a cool idea, of a HELPING STAFF Costume. Now I know that most of u discussed and disagreed with a full time leader costume, (I couldnt stand a full time costume either, it would drive me crazy), but think about a Costume, for just when ur helping staff in a game or an event. So if VMK_SoAndSo's game was open for 2 hours and u helped the full 2 hours, you would wear the costume while helping those 2 hours.
What Do you think? Post here, no pm's plz
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Hey All, Recently i have thought of a idea after a tough night last night of Helping Flamingo..let me explain it first..
First of all, I know most of you leaders have helped staff in a game, or an event and have u ever noticed some new ppl not listening u for example..
HOST_SoAndSo goes AFK..And ppl are Saying LET ME IN!!! Dont make me Report u!!!!! And All u can do is say,..Host_SoAndSo is Afk and will return in a few moments, plz wait till she returns..By then, they have reported u and left the room O_o. I have gotten this understand from last night when the ride was broken and Flamingo went to fix it. Me and CL_(Not saying any names) Thought of a cool idea, of a HELPING STAFF Costume. Now I know that most of u discussed and disagreed with a full time leader costume, (I couldnt stand a full time costume either, it would drive me crazy), but think about a Costume, for just when ur helping staff in a game or an event. So if VMK_SoAndSo's game was open for 2 hours and u helped the full 2 hours, you would wear the costume while helping those 2 hours.
What Do you think? Post here, no pm's plz
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I don't really understand it but, if a community leader was helping staff they would have on a special costume?

yea, sorry, thats what i meant. i had to type it really quick, there's a Bunch Of ppl at my house for the holidays..really hard to concetrate

No i totally disagree, Community leaders can just help with there title and badge. If CL's get a special costume that would be special treatment. Didn't CL's get sorcerer hats too, thats how i tell some CL's out.

yea, sorry, thats what i meant. i had to type it really quick, there's a Bunch Of ppl at my house for the holidays..really hard to concetrate
LOL, then good luck with them. I think it would be better if the staff just gave a community leader power over the room until they came back (power to open turn styles, etc.) :P

but half of the time ppl dont even know that were CL_'s that are helping out..They think were just were ppl with a CL_ in front of our name -they never read newletter-

I like this idea I will probably be a community leader soon I applied a few days ago. I am hoping to get a chance to help out staff I know it would help with those looooooooong lines.

but half of the time ppl dont even know that were CL_'s that are helping out..They think were just were ppl with a CL_ in front of our name -they never read newletter-
community leaders don't have to help ALL the time :P consider it a "nice break"

I do like this idea ;). But, those who are not leaders may think that leaders may be getting more, I'm not sure :)

-Your Fansite Helper, Idol- :goofy:

I say no because unless the clothin were buyable then it would be giving leaders special privilages which staff said they dont have.

but then ppl would dress like it as ppl dressed like staff back in beta..

but half of the time ppl dont even know that were CL_'s that are helping out..They think were just were ppl with a CL_ in front of our name -they never read newletter-

These same people would also not know that the uniform means that they are helping out.

LOL, then good luck with them. I think it would be better if the staff just gave a community leader power over the room until they came back (power to open turn styles, etc.) :P

That is still igving CL's special treatment, thats not right, i thought tehy don't do that.

These same people would also not know that the uniform means that they are helping out.
absolutely true! LOL :P

I thinks it's a great idea. Even though I'm not a CL I just sent a request to be one. Hopefully I will make it. Anyway, If I do make it to CL I would be happy to try out your Idea.

~Anne

It has potential but isn't that why were Community Leaders, to help out when needed? Its not our fault that members failed to understand its our job to help. Its what we signed up to do. Reports are worthless now, because there taken advantage of. So when someone reports you for helping, just don't let it bother you, You know you were helping Flamingo, why should you have to justify to everyone else. I think a costume would be "sectioning" us off from regular players, so I disagree with a costume, but I encourage you to continue to help.

It has potential but isn't that why were Community Leaders, to help out when needed? Its not our fault that members failed to understand its our job to help. Its what we signed up to do. Reports are worthless now, because there taken advantage of. So when someone reports you for helping, just don't let it bother you, You know you were helping Flamingo, why should you have to justify to everyone else. I think a costume would be "sectioning" us off from regular players, so I disagree with a costume, but I encourage you to continue to help.
I agree (btw nice avatar)

For now I'm a fence-sitter (very bad I know) but I do have a couple of things for defending the new idea:

That is still igving CL's special treatment, thats not right, i thought tehy don't do that.

barfownz, having a costume to tell you apart from the rest, that you only wear when you are helping is not really special treatment. Just like staff, I'm sure we would just be wearing some clothes that we don't like that much. Ask any of the staff and most will tell you that they would pick different clothes if they could. I would much rather wear the clothes I pick out, but I would also like a way to know who is helping with an event.

These same people would also not know that the uniform means that they are helping out.

Perhaps in the beginning, but eventually people who are playing for the long term will get used to the new costume. I took me about a month to figure out that VMK_staff wear a unique set of clothes, but now I spot them as soon as I see them in a room.

Well i will always help when i can, remember, just an idea i thought of

Greenway, its just like saying what if CL's get special purple ears. Thats getting special treatment. They are just regular people

Perhaps in the beginning, but eventually people who are playing for the long term will get used to the new costume. I took me about a month to figure out that VMK_staff wear a unique set of clothes, but now I spot them as soon as I see them in a room.

But people who are playing for the long term also know that the CL_ and the badge identify people who can help. The scenario identified specifically at the beginning would not, it seems to me, be helped by a costume any more than the CL_ helps things.

But people who are playing for the long term also know that the CL_ and the badge identify people who can help. The scenario identified specifically at the beginning would not, it seems to me, be helped by a costume any more than the CL_ helps things.
but by the time they have played that long the community leaders probly can't offer much XD

But We help out more then anyone, (well most of us)

This might be a good idea so they dont report you and they know you are trying to help keep the game going.

But on the other hand ppl may just say to the VMK Staff all the time "Can i have costume!" " Can i work for you?!?!"

That may be kind of annoying to the staff.

For the ppl that help out that would be great!
Nice Thought

Happy Christmas!

StitchMad

i agree -to short-

But people who are playing for the long term also know that the CL_ and the badge identify people who can help. The scenario identified specifically at the beginning would not, it seems to me, be helped by a costume any more than the CL_ helps things.

That's true, but you could identify a CL_ who is specifically helping with an event more quickly if their character looked different somehow. I have trouble picking out who is who in a room. Besides there are CL_ that participate in events that have not been asked to help specifically with that event. I don't think we are talking about a costume CL's will wear for everyday game play, just when they have a specific assignment for a specific event.

For example, I was on during the Thanksgiving quest, but I was not in a position to help, I didn't know how to get to the rooms that led to the helper seats, so I could help with general VMK questions, but I didn't know all that was going on with that event. I was in a thanksgiving quest room with CL_???, he was helping with the event and I wasn't. Wouldn't it have been nice for Guest1234567 to have known that the guy in the event costume could help with that event while CL_Strajo in the corner didn't know much about it?

I half way agree, i think that not only community leaders should get a special costume but regular players too. And the helper should not be able to keep the costume all the time, the HOST_ should give the helper the costume to wear and then trade it back. This costume would not be trade able between regular players but only between a staff and helper. If you are helping a staff and wear the costume you can not leave the room(this does not include crashing) with it, if you should happen to leave the room staff will ban you.
That is just what i think.

~Barbie~

I am withdrawing my opinions =) I want to stay out of this

i'd say yes. it's a great way to tell the people what's going on. best of all, you don't have to wear it all the time. :xmas4:

that's what i liked about it

i dont think thats a good idea. this is why,
a CL or other helper cant just have a costume, because what are the chances of then trading it? Or maybe of them selling it by accident. And if they halp for that certain amount of time, then they cant give it back. A costume cant also include the power of booting or so. And what if they wear it around VMK when not needed. Im sorry if I sound mean, its just my opinion.

check my post on the page before this for the answers to your questions.

I agree and not.

Disagreement:

It's not really fair that CL_'s get special costumes. If CL_'s will get one, regular players too, then. It's not the regular players' fault that they can't be a Community Leader yet. Regular players can get a costume they can wear whenever they want, Community Leaders too. Just make both costumes different, so no confusion! I am not saying this because I am not a Community Leader. When the regular player becomes a Community Leader, their costume gets replaced by the Community Leaders'/Helpers' costume.

Agreement:

It's a good idea that they can have special costumes so some people would be able to know that they are helping. Well, I don't think all CL_'s will get the costume. Only the helpers. Also, when a Community Leader changes his/her mind and wants to be a regular player, their costume gets changed to the regular players' costume.

Both costumes are not tradeable! (Only tradeable with Staff, if Staff trade with the people to get their costumes.) (If the people just get the costume in their inventory without trading with Staff, what I said in the sentence before is not counted.)

It's what I think.

~Kit

it would of course be, Non-Sellable like leota, and Non-Tradeable like Cursed Storm. If everyone got the costume ppl would abuse it.

These same people would also not know that the uniform means that they are helping out.

Exactly Exactly prisoner! If they couldn't remember the CL_ and the badge's meaning, why would they remember the clothes? I vote no.

Greenway, (I tried to quote, couldn't :Embar:) people wouldn't start to recognize it after a while. We've had CL_s for a very long time (in terms of VMK's existence) and people still don't notice. I think this would cause another thread saying how people don't know the Community leader's clothes aren't buyable etc...so I still vote no :xmas10:

Anymore Discussion?

Greenway, (I tried to quote, couldn't :Embar:) people wouldn't start to recognize it after a while. We've had CL_s for a very long time (in terms of VMK's existence) and people still don't notice. I think this would cause another thread saying how people don't know the Community leader's clothes aren't buyable etc...so I still vote no :xmas10:

OK, but do you recognize VMK Staff? Do you know what they do? You can quickly tell who is Staff by their costume and ears.

The problem with CL_'s helping in events is that you don't know a person is a CL unless 1) they speak and you see a text bubble coming from them or 2) you click on their character and see their badge in their profile.

If CL_'s have a costume that they only bring out when helping with a specific task, for a specific event (not just for cruising around the Kingdom and doing general game help), don't you think people would get used to it and know who to direct their questions to?

I totally disagree with this idea. I think that this idea just gives CL's privlages and that is not right.. to CL's it may seem right though.

If rep comes back... PLEASE NO BAD REP!

ooooo how about if ur helpin the cast member, CL, Host or who ever, the helper could wear the Sorcerer's Apprentice outfit! ill show u in a pic...

http://www.cs.duke.edu/~ola/images/mickey2.gif

yeah hopefully it will work

is anything to do with the topic or not???

I disagree to this. If CL_'s got special clothing that would not be fair to other VMK players. A pin is just enough to tell if the person is a CL_. When everyone did apply to be a CL_ it said CL_'s DO NOT get special things.

-Surf :):xmas24:

I posted earlier that they shouldn't because when the staff started the CL_ proggram they said the CL_'s will not be given ANY Special powers

I see plenty of post saying ' No this is not a good idea, people will think leaders are getting special treatment ' If you take a look under the VMK Help tool and click " How can i become a leader " and actually read the short paragraph it clearly says
" Community Leaders are experienced and enthusiastic Players, who help out. They have a special badge in their profile, and sometimes have extra rights in the game. If you've been playing VMK for a while and you have a clean record (no bans!), maybe you could become our next Community Leader. Read up on the VMK Values first, then apply! "
I do not necessarily ( sp? ) agree with the costume idea but it is something staff could look into and maybe pull opions from different types of players
That is my two cents :)
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I think the way they marked Communitly Leaders in the Thanksgiving Event worked well, the helping Community Leader was trapped in a little box. Even a stupid person like me understood as soon as I saw this bow these folks were in that the players were special.

If they did use the costume idea, the costume should be ugly and unwanted so guests dont act like total bufoons to try to get the costume.