No one has started listing VMK cards on Ebay. In today's capitalistic mentality it is quite surprising. I would imagine a single card could fetch a few bucks or so. hrm. Maybe I'll have to list something. :D

.. maybe they don't sell? lol :P

They could sell, but people might not know what is. Also, they could think it's been used even if you said it hasn't been used yet.

.. good point there Foust, they could easily lie and there ur money goes for something not even use-able! lol

That's why they have problem resolution options as well as a feedback forum. There are many ways to get your money back if the code is used. If a seller is reputable than it shouldn't be an issue.

Yea, anyone could lie about anything on ebay, especially the condition of things. But if the sellers are always getting bad feedback and comments, then nobody will buy from them so everyone is usually pretty honest there. That is surprising that nothing is on ebay yet. And here I was thinking I could get whatever i wanted from the internet! Give it a few months and the quest stuff will be all over.

Please don't take this mean-I don't mean it that way!

I think it's funny you looked! I hadn't though of that yet.

I think part of the issue (Hope this hasn't been said, i skimmed-multitasking) is that since they are one use codes no one can confirm their validity.

Oops. See Foust posted it.

My funny part can still stand though :)

I practically spend my life on ebay! So I tend to look for things most others don't think of. :D Call it a curse or blessing. I looked because I was hoping to find a magic mirror and to see how valueable ppl thought some things might be. I mean think about how many times you get hit up to trade your ears or train teleporters. Can you imagin how someone might reacto to a room card? lol

wee.. 100 bucks for some 'virtual prize' wee! LOL

No one has started listing VMK cards on Ebay. In today's capitalistic mentality it is quite surprising. I would imagine a single card could fetch a few bucks or so. hrm. Maybe I'll have to list something. :D I suspect the reason for this is that according to the VMK House Rules (http://vmk.disney.go.com/vmk/en_US/help/index?name=HouseRulesPage) (which are not all that easy to find), Rule #9 states:

Don't buy or sell accounts or items. We reserve the right to cancel any player account that was bought or sold, or player accounts that have bought or sold items.

Since there is no way to pay for items in VMK itself, I have to believe they are trying to prohibit people from buying/selling accounts and items on eBay or through other Internet-based financial transactions. Still, I'd agree with you that it's surprising no one has tried; perhaps they are too afraid to have their account banned, or maybe eBay is not allowing this since it violates the VMK House Rules.

Just to be perfectly clear, we don't allow advertising/selling on the forum, and we also don't allow discussion of activity that is illegal or violates the VMK House Rules. This thread does not violate any of these standards in my opinion, but I just thought this would be a logical place to remind forum members of the forum policies concerning these matters.

I suspect the reason for this is that according to the VMK House Rules (http://vmk.disney.go.com/vmk/en_US/help/index?name=HouseRulesPage) (which are not all that easy to find), Rule #9 states:

Don't buy or sell accounts or items. We reserve the right to cancel any player account that was bought or sold, or player accounts that have bought or sold items.

Since there is no way to pay for items in VMK itself, I have to believe they are trying to prohibit people from buying/selling accounts and items on eBay or through other Internet-based financial transactions. Still, I'd agree with you that it's surprising no one has tried; perhaps they are too afraid to have their account banned, or maybe eBay is not allowing this since it violates the VMK House Rules.

Just to be perfectly clear, we don't allow advertising/selling on the forum, and we also don't allow discussion of activity that is illegal or violates the VMK House Rules. This thread does not violate any of these standards in my opinion, but I just thought this would be a logical place to remind forum members of the forum policies concerning these matters.

The rule says that they can cancel player accounts. What if the person selling does not have said VMK account? You do not have to have an account or even create one to do the quests or go on the tour. What would they do then? Also, what if they were selling the Cards and they just happen to be unused? Wouldn't that fall under general card trading/selling similar to baseball cards? I can understand not selling a virtual item (ie. one only avaiable in game) but ppl sell physical items all the time. I posted merely as food for thought since I have seen and heard of ppl selling some weird stuff on Ebay. :D

.. yes, but wouldn't VMK be able to know their IP address and see if they have/had an account on VMK?.. if not.. i'm completely dumb :P lol

Well, what greenhpper is saying that people do the quests at the park with no VMK account. They could then sell them without ever having a VMK account. VMK can't do anything to them since they never actually signed up with them. At least I think that's what greenhpper is trying say. :confused:

Sorry for not being clear. I edited. Yes, I meant ppl who do not have VMK accounts. Obviously, I'm not an English major. :Embar: lol

isnt it against disney polici to sell? well atleast its not your fault if you buy . :P

Well, I don't think so. My dad has bought loads of Disney stuff of eBay. It may be against, but it doesn't stop people from doing it. Well I wasn't thinking cards...they might but who knows.

Well, I don't think so. My dad has bought loads of Disney stuff of eBay. It may be against, but it doesn't stop people from doing it.
I meant the cards......let me check privacy policy and check. Ill edit my post and say what it is on here.

jedimaster, MrGenie already confirmed u can't sell stuff -.-

jedimaster, MrGenie already confirmed u can't sell stuff -.-
ok lol....anyway just to show everybody heres a pic.
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Lol, every online game has a policy against selling accounts and in game items online but it occurs in every game anyway. The number of people who do these transactions tremendously outnumbers those who see any reprecussions. VMK can track trades but they have no way to prove if an item is being given to another or sold for rl money unless the seller/buyer is a moron and has a character/account name (email address) identical to their ebay name.

As far as being scammed. Most transactions are done with paypal. Paypal favors the buyer. If their is no tracking number (something being shipped) the buyer can reverse payment to get their money back. Unfortunately this often results in people scamming the seller because even if the item was received and legit, without a tracking number and real world item being received the buyer can reverse payment.

I made a bit of money doing just this playing Everquest. I live nowhere near any disney resort otherwise I'd probably be doing it here as well. Particularly if, like many seem to be doing, I was able to obtain multiple sets of quest items. There is an auction site made exclusively for gaming but I suppose in this case, with this market base, E-bay would be the best avenue of marketing your wares.

I feel no pity for selling items in games as I work to obtain them. What I choose to do with them is my business. Especially in this particular game where you are actually buying your items from the disney company. Why should you be prohibited from reselling gold ears and such.

Would the green VMK quest wristband form the park fall into this category of non-sellable? If it is given to someone, wouldn't it be their property to do as they please with? Just wondering...

If it's a real world item game rules do not apply. The main reason for these rules within the games is game companies see the items as *their* property, not yours.

This thread started out innocently enough, but I feel it is now teetering quite close to the brink of being objectionable. I understand that you may not agree with the VMK House Rules, and there are certainly a lot of ways to get around these rules without VMK being the wiser. However, we have made a decision to respect the VMK House Rules here at the forum (for reasons that should be obvious), and so I do not feel it is appropriate for the forum to host a discussion of how to subvert the VMK House Rules or attitudes that are in direct conflict with the Rules. Please refrain from doing either of these things; I do not want to close this thread but I will if I feel it is something that VMK would not approve of. Would you sit in a VMK guest room and discuss buying/selling accounts and/or items in front of Yavn or another Cast Member? I believe that you wouldn't, and I'd ask you to take the same approach here since the Forum does not endorse this kind of activity either.

A lot of the recent discussion has centered on alternate ways to get around selling accounts/codes. However, I want to direct this comment to anyone who would consider buying a code on eBay or elsewhere. Note that the VMK House Rules prohibit buying and selling and indicate that they reserve the right to terminate your account. This may be a non-issue for someone selling items if they don't have a VMK account, but presumably whoever buys an item code or account intends to use it in VMK which would make it easier for VMK to take action against the buyer. Now I'm sure we could all come up with a bunch of reasons why this is still unlikely and more of an idle threat, but that's not really the point. To me, it comes down to the fact that VMK does not want this to happen. I choose to respect their wishes, and I'd ask you to do the same. If you don't respect the rules, please don't discuss it here.

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If it's a real world item game rules do not apply. The main reason for these rules within the games is game companies see the items as *their* property, not yours.This is just patently false; the VMK House Rules make no distinction between virtual or tangible items, and it's ridiculous to suggest they don't want you selling virtual merchandise but they are okay with you selling tangible cards with codes that yield virtual items. Please choose your words more carefully, Bruen...this is a blatant example of trolling which is against the Forum Rules.

This is just patently false; the VMK House Rules make no distinction between virtual or tangible items, and it's ridiculous to suggest they don't want you selling virtual merchandise but they are okay with you selling tangible cards with codes that yield virtual items. Please choose your words more carefully, Bruen...this is a blatant example of trolling which is against the Forum Rules.


Perhaps you did not understand what I was referring to. The question was raised about selling a green bracelet received from the tour. I assume the bracelet is a real world, physical item? An actual bracelet. There is no rule against selling disney made real world items. In fact such a rule can not be made.

As for the rules. Many discussion have risen from not respecting VMK's wishes. I merely stated my opinion on the ebay matter. As other have stated their opinion on bf/gf and everything else within the game. Should all posts against bf/gf and even the petition against it become nonexistant because it is speaking out against vmk's official stance on a matter?

BTW, if a conversation about ebay was struck up in a guest room I would have no problem discussing it in front of Yavn or any other cast member. That goes for anything I've ever said on this site.

.. good point there Foust, they could easily lie and there ur money goes for something not even use-able! lol

lol they could but you can ban them and get your money back from ebay staff

i have checked a few times, just to see if there was a bracelet there for me to purchase a while back, but i would never pay for a card unless i wanted the card itself. you could never know if the code was used, so the best thing to do, is to trade with great forum members [ heartsdown ^_^ ] and others that have the avility to go to a theme park and get as many cards as they need, and have a very good standing and rep as so you can trust them.

that is how i got my VIP Pin anyway

Perhaps you did not understand what I was referring to. The question was raised about selling a green bracelet received from the tour. I assume the bracelet is a real world, physical item? An actual bracelet. There is no rule against selling disney made real world items. In fact such a rule can not be made.If you were only talking about the bracelet code, then I agree with you that the bracelet does not appear to fall within the scope of the VMK House Rules. I'm sorry if I was overly harsh and jumped to a conclusion here. I still think that buying/selling tangible unused code cards from Quests would violate the House Rules. If you are interested in collecting used code cards, then perhaps VMK wouldn't have a problem with this.

As for the rules. Many discussion have risen from not respecting VMK's wishes. I merely stated my opinion on the ebay matter. As other have stated their opinion on bf/gf and everything else within the game. Should all posts against bf/gf and even the petition against it become nonexistant because it is speaking out against vmk's official stance on a matter?No, I agree that there is a balance here. As I said in my last post, I do not believe this thread has crossed the limit yet, but it is close. For me, the distinction comes down to if people are discussing VMK policy or discussing the best ways to get around VMK policy. I see no problem with the former; however, I have a problem with the latter. Alternate example: VMK has a policy against profanity and has banned a lot of words from the dictionary. We permit a wide variety of discussions on the VMK dictionary here, both positive and negative. However, if all you want to discuss is various combinations of other words that can substitute for vulgarities in VMK, obviously we would not tolerate this on the forum.

BTW, if a conversation about ebay was struck up in a guest room I would have no problem discussing it in front of Yavn or any other cast member. That goes for anything I've ever said on this site.If you want to walk up to Yavn and say, "I feel no pity for selling items in games as I work to obtain them. What I choose to do with them is my business..." please invite me first; I'd love to see his reaction. ;)