I can't tell you how many times I've heard that. It's disgusting.

So, what are you saying? Just because a few addicts couldn't learn some responsibility, EVERYONE has to suffer? I'm glad you enjoy how unfair that is. Not just to the responsible people, but to the addicts as well. Instead of actually LEARNING how to get over their addiction, you just take away the source and hope it doesn't happen again with something else.

And, of course, it's unfair to the developers, as well. They put a lot of time and effort into making the game. As I stated in another thread, VMK is, in essence, art. It's not their fault if a few kids have their priorities hideously askew. So, then, why must THEY suffer for it? Why must THEY see their masterpiece torn from the wall and burned just because a few people, not even the majority of the players, couldn't keep their eyes away from it for so long.

I'm glad you enjoy the idea of injustice in the world.

And, of all things, some of you think WE'RE the selfish ones, trying to save a game because you (incorrectly) believe our only goal is to further fuel this addiction. What about you? I think it's fairly selfish to stereotype us as such, and then rub it into our face that this lovely world has burnt to the ground. You think you're the heroes of this story, and us the bad guys! Ha! Think again.

Never heard of people happy. But your right.

Let me also add a shout out to the Nay-sayers, of which put more effort in the fight to enlighten those that saving,(or trying to), VMK was a waste of time. If only half that effort was put towards a goal instead of against it, who knows what could of been. In the end I'm sure you are quite satisfied with your "told you so's", yep showed us, none of us have the game now.
I'm still proud of what was accomplished by so many that tried. The end result so far was not what we hoped, but there were still many victories along the way. The sense of community we all shared, the incredible stories of family and illness overcome, the pleas for lost friends. Disney did take notice..it was reflected in interviews, on VMK, and so far beyond. National news, Worldwide coverage, Internet articles and blogs, gaming sites, and fan forums.
For those that rant about it just being a game and to move on..
Sure.
And it was just a promotion too.

Addiction: the state of being enslaved to a habit or practice or to something that is psychologically or physically habit-forming, as narcotics, to such an extent that its cessation causes severe trauma.

Addicted: devoted or given up to a practice or habit or to something psychologically or physically habit-forming (usually fol. by to): to be addicted to drugs.

(from dictionary.com)

Point being, I don't think you can classify VMK as an addiction. It's not like we NEED VMK to live. IMHO, being sad and/or slightly shock-stricken isn't even close to something like what a smoker would go through when quitting smoking. They just aren't on the same level.

Again, IMHO, those "nay-sayers" as you all put it are simply people who never got to experience VMK in the way we did. They may not have been able to make such great friendships; they may not have been able to really LIVE in the magic that was VMK. Either that or they're "nay-saying" because they're just trying to get over VMK. I understand how they might feel, but slamming other people's actions in order to reach their goals is not the way to go about it. It's just as easy for us to turn around and say something with such a negative attitude towards them; I feel we haven't because that's an issue of outlook. People who don't believe are the ones who are behaving and acting that way while the rest of us are taking an optimistic approach to things.

Just my two cents.

Off Topic: I love your signature mrmyth. Tigger jumping out of nowhere made me laugh :D

Some very good comments here.

There are Leaders, who have the vision see the answers or a better solution to a problem. They are able to convey that conviction to others and inspire them to join or follow. They confront obstacles in the way of their goal, and implement methods to circumvent them.

There are Followers that are inspired by leadership and will provide support to accomplish the goal if they believe in it's merits.

There are the Passives that will not get involved. They are destined to be subjugated by those who dominate. They merely accept any outcome as being beyond their control.

Thinking about something requires you to draw conclusions, make decisions and take a stand. If you don't stand for something, then you stand for nothing at all. In doing so you accept those consequences by your own free will no matter how dire the ramifications may be. That, is not only in this circumstance, but life in general.

My thanks to everyone who worked to save VMK, regardless of how much effort you put into it. I especially thank those whose leadership abilities helped inspire others to action. Nonetheless, every small action helped to contribute to the effort as a whole.

There are those that will say that we failed in the effort. They are wrong. We knew that task would be difficult if not insurmountable when we started. We knew and expected the outcome that transpired. However, that does not negate the power of belief and the ability of mankind to overcome adversity. Our voices were heard and will be considered in future decisions by the company. Although, those factors will no be obvious to some. I think we will see the impact in future games and how Disney decides to deal with the consumers of those products. I believe it brought scrutiny to the decision making process and those who made the decisions. This is an important aspect for consideration.

Did we get everything that we dreamed of in one fell swoop. The answer is no. It will take time and incremental changes to overcome the obstacles that stand in the way. Those with Leadership abilities will recognize this. The followers we see the changes and progress brought about by their efforts. The passives will continue to aimlessly meander along. We can convey ideas, concepts and messages. But, we cannot convey vision to those who refuse to see.

Very well said indeed!
I to am getting quite tired of those who have to come over here and bash those of us who made our voices heard, who were not about to stand here and get walked all over and thrown to the trash heap. The old saying comes to mind "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all". It is fine to disagree and voice that disagreement, politely and with respect, it is another to get nasty about it. Too many are choosing the path of nasty. To use the excuse that "you're only a teenager" or "you're only a child" is not an excuse, I am sorry. My boys are young and they know to show respect for others feelings. If they ever did some of what I'm seeing some people doing here they'd get a stern talking to and "a time out".
Yes, VMK closed. In that respect we "lost". But who's to say it won't be brought back. I've heard the story about Toontown. It was closed but someone figured out how to log into it and several hundred people kept on playing what was supposed to be a closed game. Those in charge realized it was still a viable game and opened it back up and it's now one of their "E Ticket" games. While it does look like they learned from that and made it impossible to log in (at least as far as I can tell) to VMK, people can still continue to let them know that we are upset and unhappy with their decision to close VMK. It has not been taken completely offline I would also like to point out. There are still parts of it that you can pull up if you know the correct URLS and can read code. Those of us who made our voices heard made a difference, even if VMK did still close.
Calling us addicts is insulting. My priorities were in the right order. My family, my household, my real life responsibilities came first. VMK came second. It was my stress reducer, it was my entertainment in my free time, it was my break from my kids who are under foot all day (I'm a stay at home mom who homeschools so I don't get the usual break of sending the kids off to school). Yeah, sometimes I'd make us a little late for something because I was almost finished with the quest and I wanted to finish it up because I really liked the prize or I'd wake up early to go on VMK because of a special event that conflicted with something we needed to do that day. But I never let it prevent me from doing the things I had to do or the things we wanted to do as a family. We left the house and did things all the time. I made sure I did my children's lessons, I made sure I took time to pay the bills, I stopped and fed us.
If someone took the time to look for and join these forums it usually means they enjoyed VMK enough to converse about it and to get help with it (personally, I am so thankful for the quest help when I could not for the life of me figure answers out LOL).
Let's all take some deep breaths and think before we speak. Think if it would hurt your feelings if someone said something like that to you. If yes, try again.

LISTEN:

I think it's OK VMK closed! I think it's a great oppertunity for those who were too attached to get back to what they were missing before. Listen, not all people were like this, but for those who were, here's a great oppertunity. Maybe it was their chance to, "get away", or "to a place where I'm not hated"...but listen--think of your life before VMK opened its Virtual Gates. What's the difference here? It may be big for some; it may be little. Fine, post against me. It's an opinion....

These are all exemplary comments.

LI, don't you think you posted this a little late, even if I do agree with it..

i liked VMK, im not telling people to forget about it and such, but I do think that we should've not been so attached to vmk, we just have to accept the fact, some of us did, some of us didnt, but it's ok. just ignore those who are mean saying to stop caring about vmk. no offense incase this hurts any1

Yea VMK closed so there is a lot more to do. But it doesn't mean that it's a good thing. So I think people who say that should stop

i liked VMK, im not telling people to forget about it and such, but I do think that we should've not been so attached to vmk, we just have to accept the fact, some of us did, some of us didnt, but it's ok. just ignore those who are mean saying to stop caring about vmk. no offense incase this hurts any1


I agree 100%, Remix.

We shouldn't have been so attached. I'm speaking for myself, too. It was a computer game--some people were missing out on what the real world has to offer.

I agree 100%, Remix.

We shouldn't have been so attached. I'm speaking for myself, too. It was a computer game--some people were missing out on what the real world has to offer.

On the other hand, there are those people who put VMK second to their life.. many of us had much more important things going on day to day. I think that part of the reason this whole "being too attached" to VMK thing is popping up so often is because people started to spend more time on VMK after hearing of closing. That is understandable, seeing as (for example) if you heard your grandfather was very ill, you wouldn't just carry on with your life, you would most likely spend a lot of time visiting at the hospital or something.

So, both sides of this argument are correct. People were spending an awful lot of time on VMK near closing. However, there are many people who only began this pattern after hearing of closing; before that time those people put VMK after their real life work. I think the biggest issue here is that many of us are failing to see the other side of the argument and consequently sounding as if they are "attacking" the other side. Not on purpose of course, simply a miscommunication on everyone's part.

Again, my two cents.

LISTEN:

I think it's OK VMK closed! I think it's a great oppertunity for those who were too attached to get back to what they were missing before. Listen, not all people were like this, but for those who were, here's a great oppertunity.

I point you back towards the second paragraph of the first post:

I can't tell you how many times I've heard that. It's disgusting.

So, what are you saying? Just because a few addicts couldn't learn some responsibility, EVERYONE has to suffer? I'm glad you enjoy how unfair that is. Not just to the responsible people, but to the addicts as well. Instead of actually LEARNING how to get over their addiction, you just take away the source and hope it doesn't happen again with something else.

And, of course, it's unfair to the developers, as well. They put a lot of time and effort into making the game. As I stated in another thread, VMK is, in essence, art. It's not their fault if a few kids have their priorities hideously askew. So, then, why must THEY suffer for it? Why must THEY see their masterpiece torn from the wall and burned just because a few people, not even the majority of the players, couldn't keep their eyes away from it for so long.

I'm glad you enjoy the idea of injustice in the world.

And, of all things, some of you think WE'RE the selfish ones, trying to save a game because you (incorrectly) believe our only goal is to further fuel this addiction. What about you? I think it's fairly selfish to stereotype us as such, and then rub it into our face that this lovely world has burnt to the ground. You think you're the heroes of this story, and us the bad guys! Ha! Think again.

Also:
Maybe it was their chance to, "get away", or "to a place where I'm not hated"...but listen--think of your life before VMK opened its Virtual Gates. What's the difference here? It may be big for some; it may be little.

It could also have been a positive influence, or a negative one. And yet, you sound as if it could only be the latter...

Fine, post against me. It's an opinion....
Now, if everyone agreed, it wouldn't be a discussion, now would it? :P

PEOPLE!!! SOME PEOPLE NEED VMK because they can't talk or they can't walk or some other disablity! They feel normal.. JUST LIKE SLINKYMAN!!

VMK is my Disneyland. I've dreamed of going there for 6 years. My dad used to buy me Mickey CDs, Disney Movies, and there was a CD called Magic English which taught me how to speak! I used to watch it ALL day long. I could memorize it. Now VMK was like my dream come true. When I was new to VMK someone gave me free Mickey ears. I went around VMK exploring my Disneyland. Then I was dumb and gave my ears away :P VMK actually got me smarter about internet and people on it. Now if I join any other games I know what to do. But now I have to wait 2 or more years to go to Disneyland :-( I just wanna go to Disneyland! There are so many explorations that VMK kept of it. Now I dream of going to the real Frontierland, the real Fantasyland, the real Tomorrowland. Now I have to have a LONG wait. Without VMK encouraging me. VMK was an advertisement of the real Disneyland, and it worked. But it worked TOO hard. Now the close down the game and I'm even more mad about missing Disneyland! VMK is also some time off my real life. My real life is getting on my nerves at times >_< I've met awesome friends on VMK! From me playing VMK, I've resolved some real life issues. I have had my say.

~MsBored - Disneyland Dreamer :-(

Very well said indeed!
I to am getting quite tired of those who have to come over here and bash those of us who made our voices heard, who were not about to stand here and get walked all over and thrown to the trash heap. The old saying comes to mind "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all". It is fine to disagree and voice that disagreement, politely and with respect, it is another to get nasty about it. Too many are choosing the path of nasty. To use the excuse that "you're only a teenager" or "you're only a child" is not an excuse, I am sorry. My boys are young and they know to show respect for others feelings. If they ever did some of what I'm seeing some people doing here they'd get a stern talking to and "a time out".
Yes, VMK closed. In that respect we "lost". But who's to say it won't be brought back. I've heard the story about Toontown. It was closed but someone figured out how to log into it and several hundred people kept on playing what was supposed to be a closed game. Those in charge realized it was still a viable game and opened it back up and it's now one of their "E Ticket" games. While it does look like they learned from that and made it impossible to log in (at least as far as I can tell) to VMK, people can still continue to let them know that we are upset and unhappy with their decision to close VMK. It has not been taken completely offline I would also like to point out. There are still parts of it that you can pull up if you know the correct URLS and can read code. Those of us who made our voices heard made a difference, even if VMK did still close.
Calling us addicts is insulting. My priorities were in the right order. My family, my household, my real life responsibilities came first. VMK came second. It was my stress reducer, it was my entertainment in my free time, it was my break from my kids who are under foot all day (I'm a stay at home mom who homeschools so I don't get the usual break of sending the kids off to school). Yeah, sometimes I'd make us a little late for something because I was almost finished with the quest and I wanted to finish it up because I really liked the prize or I'd wake up early to go on VMK because of a special event that conflicted with something we needed to do that day. But I never let it prevent me from doing the things I had to do or the things we wanted to do as a family. We left the house and did things all the time. I made sure I did my children's lessons, I made sure I took time to pay the bills, I stopped and fed us.
If someone took the time to look for and join these forums it usually means they enjoyed VMK enough to converse about it and to get help with it (personally, I am so thankful for the quest help when I could not for the life of me figure answers out LOL).
Let's all take some deep breaths and think before we speak. Think if it would hurt your feelings if someone said something like that to you. If yes, try again.

I'm glad someone brought that up. The login page probably is still cached on someone's computer. However, EKB is the only person who is allowed to discuss things related to hacking (in the eyes of the mods), so EKB, IF YOU ARE READING THIS, HELP!!!

It's not "disgusting".
It's their opinion, biased as it may seem.
I sort of agree with them, and sort of agree with you, however, there were addicts and quite of few of them at that, but like you said, it doesn't really give them the right to insult everyone's efforts to keep vmk from closing.

It's not "disgusting".
It's their opinion, biased as it may seem.
I sort of agree with them, and sort of agree with you, however, there were addicts and quite of few of them at that, but like you said, it doesn't really give them the right to insult everyone's efforts to keep vmk from closing.

It's not the bias that disturbs me.

For those who are knowingly rubbing salt onto the wounds, it's the complete lack of compassion for their fellow man that disturbs me.

For those who think they really are doing humanity a favor, saying "Look at the bright side! You can face the real world and all it's harsh realities!", it's the disability to see exactly what they're implying by saying so.

VMK never took any opportunities away. You just had to be responsible enough to realize that, and step away from the computer on your own will. Nobody was holding you at gunpoint to play that game.

While I agree the addicts need to learn to face reality, this is not the way to do it. As I said in the first post, they're not learning moderation at all if you just take the source away and hope everything will be better afterwards.

Very well said indeed!
I to am getting quite tired of those who have to come over here and bash those of us who made our voices heard, who were not about to stand here and get walked all over and thrown to the trash heap. The old saying comes to mind "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all". It is fine to disagree and voice that disagreement, politely and with respect, it is another to get nasty about it. Too many are choosing the path of nasty. To use the excuse that "you're only a teenager" or "you're only a child" is not an excuse, I am sorry. My boys are young and they know to show respect for others feelings. If they ever did some of what I'm seeing some people doing here they'd get a stern talking to and "a time out".
Yes, VMK closed. In that respect we "lost". But who's to say it won't be brought back. I've heard the story about Toontown. It was closed but someone figured out how to log into it and several hundred people kept on playing what was supposed to be a closed game. Those in charge realized it was still a viable game and opened it back up and it's now one of their "E Ticket" games. While it does look like they learned from that and made it impossible to log in (at least as far as I can tell) to VMK, people can still continue to let them know that we are upset and unhappy with their decision to close VMK. It has not been taken completely offline I would also like to point out. There are still parts of it that you can pull up if you know the correct URLS and can read code. Those of us who made our voices heard made a difference, even if VMK did still close.
Calling us addicts is insulting. My priorities were in the right order. My family, my household, my real life responsibilities came first. VMK came second. It was my stress reducer, it was my entertainment in my free time, it was my break from my kids who are under foot all day (I'm a stay at home mom who homeschools so I don't get the usual break of sending the kids off to school). Yeah, sometimes I'd make us a little late for something because I was almost finished with the quest and I wanted to finish it up because I really liked the prize or I'd wake up early to go on VMK because of a special event that conflicted with something we needed to do that day. But I never let it prevent me from doing the things I had to do or the things we wanted to do as a family. We left the house and did things all the time. I made sure I did my children's lessons, I made sure I took time to pay the bills, I stopped and fed us.
If someone took the time to look for and join these forums it usually means they enjoyed VMK enough to converse about it and to get help with it (personally, I am so thankful for the quest help when I could not for the life of me figure answers out LOL).
Let's all take some deep breaths and think before we speak. Think if it would hurt your feelings if someone said something like that to you. If yes, try again.

I could not agree with you more. Telling me to get my priorities straight is extremely insulting. Not sure what makes people think they can judge others when they really don't know you. I have a full time job, a car, a house, a son, 3 dogs, fish - believe me, if my priorities weren't straight, I wouldn't have what I do (this whole place would fall apart, believe me). Just because I am part of a online community doesn't mean I don't know what is important in my life, nor do I need anyone reminding me.

I fought for VMK as hard as I could and I will continue to remind Disney VMK was a great concept, has potential for generating revenue (which it did already just not to the extent Disney may have wanted) and most importantly, brought magic into every home with a internet connection that chose to be a part of it.

:balloon:

- Gift

PEOPLE!!! SOME PEOPLE NEED VMK because they can't talk or they can't walk or some other disablity! They feel normal.. JUST LIKE SLINKYMAN!!

Let me make this clear:

Not everyone in the world has disabilities/illnesses like the slinkyman story. No offence, but I can bet a lot of people on these forums never thought of VMK quite like that until that thread came along. A lot of us (myself included) probably thought of VMK as "just a game" until we heard about closing and as a result, various stories from players themselves. Of course we probably had a general idea that some of us had less enjoyable real life situations than others, but we probably wouldn't have thought of it to those extremes.

Point being, we can't keep going on by bringing up stories like these. I would doubt that majority of the VMK community is all involved in stories of those "extremes" (for lack of a better word). We can't represent that the only reason people play VMK is because they're disabled or ill. We should instead be promoting that VMK is for people of all genders, ages, races, religions, and states of health. It's a place for everyone, not just for those individuals, to escape the troubles of life.

Another thing is that since you said it's a place for people to be "normal", I don't think people who are disabled, ill, whatever really want to be constantly reminded of that. Just treat everyone as if you didn't know anything about their personal life.

Let me point out that I'm not discrediting/slamming slinkyman's (or anyone else's for that matter) story, as it is quite touching, so please don't get me wrong on that. I just want people to truly realize that VMK is for everyone; from your Average Joe to people who may be less fortunate than us.

well since many said vmk was liek being is disneyland/world, check out the google 3d disney thing, anyways i never thought of people like that playin vmk until today, sorry for people out there, but it's been 2 weeks now

Nope. Just find something else to get addicted too.

Not all people called people who liked VMK addicts. If people who liked VMK were addicts, then call me one. We all liked VMK, or else we wouldn't have joined a fansite. I wasn't calling anyone addicts.

i havent heard of anyone being happy about vmk closing. also i dont think it is an addiction, it is something that people really liked to play

Agreed ^!

Not everyone is an "addict". It takes alot to become an addict. Example: (this would be close):

"Jasmine honey, get off the computer!"
"Okay, Mommy!"
*6 hours later and Jasmine is still on*
"Jasmine are you off yet?"
"Just finishing, Mommy!"
*another 6 hours later*
"Jasmine!"

uhg

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Thats really cruel to say your glad because of somebodies unhappiness. When VMK closed, lots of hearts were crushed and your saying your happy they were.

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Me? I didn't send out that message...or I didn't mean to anyways...

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No, not you LOL. Your not cruel!
I was taking about the person of this thread.

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I don't care if it's disgusting but I'm saying I'm very glad to go to the real world. I'm just here for contact with friends.

VMK's Closure was not Disney's nor Sulake's fault. I'm not trying to be rude or anything, but now that VMK has closed I'm more free to do what I should of done a while ago. When I was playing VMK, and I needed to eat, I wouldn't want to get off. I'm surprised on how much I missed and how much I have planned now. I used to only go to getaways once or no times at all when VMK was open. Now, all my weekends are booked. All the way 'till the end of July. I can go camping, see Wicked (again ;)), travel, and more stuff I've always wanted to do more often than once every few months.


~Front

Front, I think that's awesome what you're doing! :) Booked till the end of July! Wowzers.

I'm glad it closed.. now. But I miss it ALOT, but because it closed I can spend more time with my family. I can even work on more ideas for my game. I'm not saying that you are all VMK addicts. But I am :). I do miss it but NOW I'm glad it left.

I'm glad it closed too. But for the right reasons. There are wrong reasons for being glad it closed.

I think addiction can be a good thing.
Yup, I said it.
How about those kids that were in the hospital? Who never got to really walk, dance, or have 150 friends. Nobody ever think about those? Who fed on that game so they could feel human for a couple hours of the day? I call it addicted. But I also call it good, and I think it is stupid for people to say that people need to get a life after the game, not considering the people who lost their chance at almost life in that game.

i think vmk should have stayed open.
like cookiefairy said, some of the kids dat played vmk r in the hospital, it iz not their fault that they cant walk or dance wit their friendz.
if the ppl dat said " im happy dat it closed", then y did yew even play the game if yew wanted it to close!
@_@ think of dat.

but im also happy dat it closed bc now.. i spend time wit my family and i actually talk 2 my sister now.
and plus i get 2 work on my book im writting :)
im just a kid writting a book.. @_@ strange huh

not to be rude but it has been 3 weeks now and almost a month, i do think we should get over it a lil

Cookiefairy--

Sure, those in the hospital and all--it's OK for them. But what about those who aren't in the hospital? It's not the same for those who are out of it.

I think addiction can be a good thing.
Yup, I said it.
How about those kids that were in the hospital? Who never got to really walk, dance, or have 150 friends. Nobody ever think about those? Who fed on that game so they could feel human for a couple hours of the day? I call it addicted. But I also call it good, and I think it is stupid for people to say that people need to get a life after the game, not considering the people who lost their chance at almost life in that game.

That's the thing about online gaming.. the anonyminity of it all. People don't have to be recognized as "Zimonada, xx year old student who goes to xx school in Canada and has an ear infection" or something like that, it's just "Zimonada". People don't want to be singled out all the time, especially over things that aren't positive. If you were in the hospital, would you like all your friends in VMK to know you were in the hospital? It's one thing if you know them in real life, and they can come visit you or something, but if it's online the only thing you both can do is sit there and be sad about it.

By being online you're covered by your screen name.. it acts as a mask. Nobody has to know who you are. I wouldn't want everyone constantly reminding me I was terminally ill. I'd be much happier if everyone thought I was just your average next door neighbour.

"that doesn't mean everyone has to suffer..." ←Quote from first post.

VMK didn't close because of the addicts, remember that. What do you mean by people not having to suffer? Think about all of the people who played VMK and were attached to their computers. On, warm, bright, sunny days, kids (and maybe adults?) were inside on their computers playing VMK. Maybe it is a good thing VMK closed! I will admit that I wasted a lot of time playing VMK when it was open. I spent my weekends doing it and now, I regret that! I could've been with friends or outside by myself. And Pirate, we played because we liked the game; then after a while, we got addicted. And Cookiefairy, like some others said, what about the kids not in the hospital? Sure, they deserve to be addicted to it, (not deserve, but I mean it's a good thing. [bad vocab.]) but what about the non-hospitalized people, who spend hours upon hours playing an online game that will never count for anything? Think about that...

Yeah...Friez, I have to agree. I think that it's great how VMK is closed now--it lets me know what I was missing out on.

Yeah...Friez, I have to agree. I think that it's great how VMK is closed now--it lets me know what I was missing out on.

It's a shame you did not have the ability to handle 'a game' and 'real life' together.
Many players of all ages could, and did see the outside world, as well as the dream world without a problem.
However perhaps your glee in it's closing would be better represented in the rants area, instead of the Save VMK Areas.

"... but what about the non-hospitalized people, who spend hours upon hours playing an online game that will never count for anything? Think about that...

How can you judge what another gained from VMK, or any other game?
I found many friends through it,(as well as lost many more), and I find that to be much more rewarding than playing hopscotch with the neighbor.
But that is just my opinion on it.

Mrmyth--

It's like you're totally against me.
Putting down my posts.
Always disagreeing. OK, you can disagree but you're always shooting me down. Please stop. Thank you.

ON TOPIC:
I did, Mrmyth; I did have the ability to. I never said I didn't. There were a few things I was missing out on. You don't know the details...

-edit-

And if you're saying that to just me, why aren't you saying that to the other who have admitted it?

"that doesn't mean everyone has to suffer..." ←Quote from first post.

VMK didn't close because of the addicts, remember that. What do you mean by people not having to suffer? Think about all of the people who played VMK and were attached to their computers. On, warm, bright, sunny days, kids (and maybe adults?) were inside on their computers playing VMK. Maybe it is a good thing VMK closed! I will admit that I wasted a lot of time playing VMK when it was open. I spent my weekends doing it and now, I regret that! I could've been with friends or outside by myself. And Pirate, we played because we liked the game; then after a while, we got addicted.
That sentence you quoted? Read the one three sentences after it for me, please ;)
Mrmyth--

It's like you're totally against me.
Putting down my posts.
Always disagreeing. OK, you can disagree but you're always shooting me down. Please stop. Thank you.

ON TOPIC:
I did, Mrmyth; I did have the ability to. I never said I didn't. There were a few things I was missing out on. You don't know the details...

-edit-

And if you're saying that to just me, why aren't you saying that to the other who have admitted it?

Disagreeing is not the same as putting you down, thank you. Telling you to stop, or belittling your positions is putting you down.

There is absolutely NOTHING you could do now that you couldn't have done when VMK was open. You just had to learn to be responsible and get off the computer ON YOUR OWN, instead of waiting for the game to shut down and be booted off.

Mrmyth--
It's like you're totally against me.
Putting down my posts.
Always disagreeing. OK, you can disagree but you're always shooting me down. Please stop. Thank you.
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Xoop-
I'm sorry if you see it as "putting you down", instead of the attempt to stop unnecessary roadblocks in this area of the forums.
Perhaps you do not even realize how often you go out of your way to try to dampen the spirits of those that still have a dream and still have hope for the future.

Okeee....I get it @_@
Just even staff have said:
There's nothing you can do to save VMK!
What I mean by facing reality is:
VMK is closed.
Now I'm not saying I didn't like VMK. I liked it, that's why I joined a fan community! I'm just saying that it is closed.
I'm glad it closed too. But for the right reasons. There are wrong reasons for being glad it closed.
Putting you down? No. Only facing reality...
I, personally, do NOT 100% agree. I disagree. No matter how much you like VMK, it is closed. Can you log on? No. This is what we mean by closed.
And it is time to move on. Like osmello said, "Disney did have reasons".
It really is time to realize that it is closed.
Oh, I'm sorry, Monnie.
But I'm afraid VMK Staff said VMK isn't coming back :I But I hope you'll find another online game that you'll enjoy just as much! I came to enjoy the forum more than the game! LOL.
I agree 100%, Remix.
We shouldn't have been so attached. I'm speaking for myself, too. It was a computer game--some people were missing out on what the real world has to offer.
LISTEN:
I think it's OK VMK closed! I think it's a great oppertunity for those who were too attached to get back to what they were missing before. Listen, not all people were like this, but for those who were, here's a great oppertunity. Maybe it was their chance to, "get away", or "to a place where I'm not hated"...but listen--think of your life before VMK opened its Virtual Gates. What's the difference here? It may be big for some; it may be little. Fine, post against me. It's an opinion....
Haha, thanks everyone :) Now that VMK is closed you don't hafta post here...but now the Q is:
How much time did you spend on VMK? LOL
THANK you, Xucid!! :P That was genious.
So VMK is closed; it's not the end of the world.
I wouldn't, personally. First of all, I'm more attached to the forum XD...LOL. Anyways, no I wouldn't--not because I hate Disney (which I don't), but because now that VMK is closed, it's a chance to start over.
See a reoccurring theme here?
(And that's just where I quit.)

i have a question.

can the world just stop fighting over this?

VMK is closed.
Many of the world still fight for it.

that's how it is. the end....

can't we all make peace like it was back then when vmk was still open? o.o

- anti flame shield -

They should make peace.
Yes, it has bad and good reasons as to why it closed.
Should you fight for it? I'm not going to, but if it's your choice, then be my guest.
Am I sad it's closed? Yes of course! Vmk was where i met some great friends, and some of them I love to stay in contact with after vmk for as long as possible. But sadly without vmk my "Friend circle" is falling apart... D:
Vmk wasn't like alot of the games on the internet. It was different, and it had something about it that I liked. I remember all the good times. I'll miss it and i'm still trying to find a new game to fill the void of no vmk, but nothing could possibly ever be like vmk, not even some game that's trying to remake a new version of vmk. VMK had it's own special...ness that brought me and my friend circle together. As our circle "crumbles" at least we had fun together on this game. I surely would miss all of them. But hey, if some of them still are friends when i'm in college and we stay in contact, then maybe... they're more than computer buddies. ;)
But should you treat it like it's the end of the world? Personally in my opinnion. No. If it was your favorite game well OKAY. But still, you have the opportunity to go and find a new game, nobody ever said it has to be disney or something like vmk, or pay to play. Maybe, find something besides computer games? I mean, if you can't find another game you want to play. Ask around, Lot's of people would give you ideas if you cant find a new game to play! and It may not be your favorite, but there's always 2nd favorite. :)
And the people who are acting against the hardcore vmk lovers side (thats what i call them :D ) . I've been seeing over-flaming from the people against (not saying there wasn't over flaming from both sides. It's their opinnion that vmk closed and its sad, but let them take time to get over it. They probably already know they'll have to get over it someday. Hey, some people need more time than others. You may be glad it's closed but the hardcore vmk lovers still want to at least try to make something happen. Give them credit for at least some of them are still fighting. You and I may not want to fight, but if they want to fight for vmk still, let them :) . Remember, give them time to get over vmk.

I respect both sides opinnions overall, but its getting out of hand just a bit.

Just because there's disagreement doesn't mean there's a lack of peace, my friends.

I don't know how the pro-closures see it (For I truly do not understand much of their logic. But, hey. If I did, would I be disagreeing with them?), but to many of us Save VMKers, this is but a friendly debate. Strong words may be spoken, but no harm meant. I assure you, we're attacking the ideals, not the people that possess them.

There will always be haters. There will always be those for a cause. There will always be people who don't care. In each case that we find, we must look between the lines and try to read the true signal. Some people look at one's good as bad, as it is opposite, and others may try not to have a say in anything. Wow! What a point I've made. Now, lets apply it, shall we?
Is it good that VMK closed? No. That's a cut and dry opinion. As a fact, it's still probally no. Many people lost thier jobs due to the closure, and that couldn't be stopped.
VMK closing as a good thing? Maybe if you were addicted to the game it was. Lets face it, many people reading these words WERE addicted. That's bad on so many levels. Maybe people can say the closure was good based on the addiction factor, but you can't blame the game for a lack of peoples wills... Oh, friends, it's so much more. This topic is deep.

Oh, friends, it's so much more. This topic is deep.

Aye, hence the entire subforum about it, filled with hundreds of threads.

I, personally, think that's what makes it... Dare I say it? Fun. Although I would have preferred VMK just stay open, the intelligent conversations that have spawned from this event are rather entertaining ;)

I'm glad your moving into the real world too. You must be having a hard time with VMK closing because of all these confusing posts.

I can't tell you how many times I've heard that. It's disgusting.

So, what are you saying? Just because a few addicts couldn't learn some responsibility, EVERYONE has to suffer? I'm glad you enjoy how unfair that is. Not just to the responsible people, but to the addicts as well. Instead of actually LEARNING how to get over their addiction, you just take away the source and hope it doesn't happen again with something else.

And, of course, it's unfair to the developers, as well. They put a lot of time and effort into making the game. As I stated in another thread, VMK is, in essence, art. It's not their fault if a few kids have their priorities hideously askew. So, then, why must THEY suffer for it? Why must THEY see their masterpiece torn from the wall and burned just because a few people, not even the majority of the players, couldn't keep their eyes away from it for so long.

I'm glad you enjoy the idea of injustice in the world.

And, of all things, some of you think WE'RE the selfish ones, trying to save a game because you (incorrectly) believe our only goal is to further fuel this addiction. What about you? I think it's fairly selfish to stereotype us as such, and then rub it into our face that this lovely world has burnt to the ground. You think you're the heroes of this story, and us the bad guys! Ha! Think again.

Seriously!
I think that VMK closing is 98% bad and 2% good.

2% Good: People addicted to VMK can go back to the normal, get outside and be more active

98% Bad: Disney losses 4% of there fans/viewers, and many people dont have a decent game to play.

Some very good comments here.

There are Leaders, who have the vision see the answers or a better solution to a problem. They are able to convey that conviction to others and inspire them to join or follow. They confront obstacles in the way of their goal, and implement methods to circumvent them.

There are Followers that are inspired by leadership and will provide support to accomplish the goal if they believe in it's merits.

There are the Passives that will not get involved. They are destined to be subjugated by those who dominate. They merely accept any outcome as being beyond their control.

Thinking about something requires you to draw conclusions, make decisions and take a stand. If you don't stand for something, then you stand for nothing at all. In doing so you accept those consequences by your own free will no matter how dire the ramifications may be. That, is not only in this circumstance, but life in general.

My thanks to everyone who worked to save VMK, regardless of how much effort you put into it. I especially thank those whose leadership abilities helped inspire others to action. Nonetheless, every small action helped to contribute to the effort as a whole.

There are those that will say that we failed in the effort. They are wrong. We knew that task would be difficult if not insurmountable when we started. We knew and expected the outcome that transpired. However, that does not negate the power of belief and the ability of mankind to overcome adversity. Our voices were heard and will be considered in future decisions by the company. Although, those factors will no be obvious to some. I think we will see the impact in future games and how Disney decides to deal with the consumers of those products. I believe it brought scrutiny to the decision making process and those who made the decisions. This is an important aspect for consideration.

Did we get everything that we dreamed of in one fell swoop. The answer is no. It will take time and incremental changes to overcome the obstacles that stand in the way. Those with Leadership abilities will recognize this. The followers we see the changes and progress brought about by their efforts. The passives will continue to aimlessly meander along. We can convey ideas, concepts and messages. But, we cannot convey vision to those who refuse to see.

Dont forget the ones like me who just dont know where to go lol...

And is ranting at a rant neccessary?
Just asking.

Its not like we need VMK to LIVE, oh and btw, I dont think 4 percent of most of the world that likes Disney plays VMK..


Although these little brawls over VMK are kinda... rather... amusing?:D, no offense lol.

Its really all because of that friend thing, we meet new people, we learn some stuff (I learned that picture thing lol), and its just so hard to say goodbye. Keep a memory of it, AKA the picture thing :D lol, cause memories wont fade away, at least they wont start to yet...

I personally think the closing of VMK was for the best. Since they closed VMK I've been able to actually acomplish some things. Things that actually help me in the REAL world, not the VMK world. I miss it, yes, but i think it was for the best.

All The Best

~Captain

i agree wit captainlegodude.
yes vmk waz a game dat we all loved but hey..
everything in this world has to end doesnt it!?
maybe if we are lucky they can open vmk again..
- do yew really think that disney would delte the vmk file-
vmk cost disney tons of money not to mention all the hard work.
but hey.. maybe closing vmk wat the right thing to do.
alot of people have started to move on with their lives and be happy :)
lots of love
$ pirate

Its actually a true statement
but its pretty annoying to hear...
all of my friends who didnt do vmk are like "Who cares about vmk now you can return to the real world"
no i dont like people saying it but its true....

Let me make this clear:

Not everyone in the world has disabilities/illnesses like the slinkyman story. No offence, but I can bet a lot of people on these forums never thought of VMK quite like that until that thread came along. A lot of us (myself included) probably thought of VMK as "just a game" until we heard about closing and as a result, various stories from players themselves. Of course we probably had a general idea that some of us had less enjoyable real life situations than others, but we probably wouldn't have thought of it to those extremes.

Point being, we can't keep going on by bringing up stories like these. I would doubt that majority of the VMK community is all involved in stories of those "extremes" (for lack of a better word). We can't represent that the only reason people play VMK is because they're disabled or ill. We should instead be promoting that VMK is for people of all genders, ages, races, religions, and states of health. It's a place for everyone, not just for those individuals, to escape the troubles of life.

Another thing is that since you said it's a place for people to be "normal", I don't think people who are disabled, ill, whatever really want to be constantly reminded of that. Just treat everyone as if you didn't know anything about their personal life.

Let me point out that I'm not discrediting/slamming slinkyman's (or anyone else's for that matter) story, as it is quite touching, so please don't get me wrong on that. I just want people to truly realize that VMK is for everyone; from your Average Joe to people who may be less fortunate than us.

What you talkin' 'bout Willis?!??!

i agree wit captainlegodude.
yes vmk waz a game dat we all loved but hey..
everything in this world has to end doesnt it!?

Not necessarily, no.

maybe if we are lucky they can open vmk again..
- do yew really think that disney would delte the vmk file-

Yep. That's why we're fighting.
vmk cost disney tons of money not to mention all the hard work. My friends probably have better servers than theirs. And VMK Staff was more than happy to put in that hard work.
but hey.. maybe closing vmk wat the right thing to do.
alot of people have started to move on with their lives and be happy :)

Although, they could have easily done so without VMK closing.

Meanwhile, other people's lives are, while still moving on, have lost a big source of inspiration and escape.