Not now, but in... let's say, 30 years? Why and how? Well, when I'm an adult, I want to become Imagineer. Since Yavn and PirateVinnie are Imagineers too, maybe I will meet them when I'm an Imagineers too. There is a whole complicated, never-ever-going-to-happen-story connected to this, reply if you wanna hear it. Also please reply with your thoughts!

Thank you,
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P.S.: I also told it twice in VMK, first time everyone was like "Go Astro!" (my VMK Title is AstroTanni), the second time was with HOST_Lily and HOST_Hurricane, and they couldn't stop laughing. Is this idea then THAT weird?
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Yavn and PirateVinnie are not Imagineers and do not work for Disney. They work for Sulake.

I like your Determination though :)

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that would be cool. our kids would be able to play it and we could say, "yep i played that when i was a kid too."

Wouldn't Yavn and PiratesVinnie be like in their 60's/70's?

Also, this is a dream that many of us have dreamed(Including me), but we have woken up. Probably before 30 years pass there will be another 'VMK', or in-park sort of game.


But it would be very cool to save it ;)

Eh probably, they would make another virtual game thing, a long time from now, disney themed.. maybe not called vmk.

HEH. ill be like, 50 years old. ill join anyway :D LOL

Yavn and PirateVinnie have no relations with Disney. Also, if you think about, if they were in fact Imagineers, they would probably be retired by the time you work there. Sorry dude.

Yavn and PirateVinnie have no relations with Disney. Also, if you think about, if they were in fact Imagineers, they would probably be retired by the time you work there. Sorry dude.

Exactly what I was trying to say! LOL

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Yavn and PirateVinnie have no relations with Disney. Also, if you think about, if they were in fact Imagineers, they would probably be retired by the time you work there.


In the VMK Newsletter, there was an announcement for those "Pic rooms" to get pictures with Yavn and PirateVinnie and that kind of staff. There was a picture attachted to it (with Yavn and PirateVinnie, gee, I'm saying those names too much! ;)) with a discription that said something like "get a picture with the Imagineers that created VMK!", so that's where my Imagineer-thought came from.
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They would be VMK Imagineers then.

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I dont think that you could really meet them in 30 years because how would you find them, and they might be dead by then. And most likely you wouldve forgotten and moved on about VMK just like everyone else will.

There was acctualy more. WARNING: DREAMS ARE GOING TO COME OUT OF MY MOUTH! I REPEAT: DREAMS ARE GOING TO COME OUT OF MY MOUTH!

Anyway, I would make a ride, where old VMK players would have to insert their login data, then they would get a card. When they step into the ride, they insert the card in a hole in their "car", and later, they would come past some mirrors, and see themselves as they were in VMK. Visitors will also fly above the POTC game, meet ALL the NPC's, the staff (with special things for HOST_Lily, I love her), etc. etc. etc.
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You dont have to be an imagineer to make VMK.. Look at Yavn. He wasn't.. Make an exactly VMK replica ;)

I dont think that you could really meet them in 30 years because how would you find them, and they might be dead by then. And most likely you wouldve forgotten and moved on about VMK just like everyone else will.

VMK got a special place in my heart, but if I would tell the main reason, I would give out personal information. But the second main reason is because of a very good friend there called Clemmons. Anyone that knows her?
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Make an exactly VMK replica ;)

In real or...? That was acctualy part of my plan. But it's still a good idea.
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VMK got a special place in my heart, but if I would tell the main reason, I would give out personal information. But the second main reason is because of a very good friend there called Clemmons. Anybody who knows her?

I know Clemmons! She was a very good friend on VMK. I miss her so much :(


Also, good ride idea. But I dont think I would remember VMK in 30 years, let alone remember my account information.

Online.. Make a replica ;) and.. GREAT MINDS THINK ALIKE.

Yavn and PirateVinnie are not Imagineers and do not work for Disney. They work for Sulake.

I like your Determination though :)

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They do work for Disney. The moderators work for Sulake, but the producers work for Disney. I don't know much about PirateVinnie, but yavn has worked with Disney for around seven years from what I read (might be longer now, I'm not sure when it was written).

I know Clemmons! She was a very good friend on VMK. I miss her so much :(

All my online friend got a "Goodbye forever" message from me, but she (was offline) got a message with "Goodbye forever I will never forget you". she helped me to get to level 3 of POTC, but we never succeeded.:( :( :( :( :(
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I'm not trying to buzz-kill here, but it really would be easier to just make another VMK. From my (so far) limited knowledge of computer programming, VMK isn't too too complex; or at least in comparison to other online games. I'd guess that anyone who can walk out of university/college with a degree in programming or game design could easily make another VMK (not counting things like funding and staffing.. etc)

We could have free staff :). I'm pretty good with kids even tho i am one XD

*sigh* I miss VMK.

I do want to become an imagineer, though. =)

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Im sorry but I just dont see this happening at all. I mean you cant just walk into Disney and say your an ' Imagineear'. You gotta work for the job, make the grades, and that means now, and you have to go to college.

His key words were "Maybe not now but in.. 30 years?" Plenty of time to go get your degree in whatever (:

Dreams are always unrealistic though. It will take thought and determination, and of course time.

In 30 years VMK could be a holigram that you could actually walk through. But why wait 30 years? A good programer could get a spectacular new VMK up in no time.

I understand what everyone means when they bring up problems, but there will be problems in whatever you do. Keep on dreaming anyway, because that'd be really cool! It's a great idea. Count me in as a beta tester. :D

I have a picture of Yavn - I mean a real life picture.
He's old =/

Yes, yavn is in his late 30's to early 40's, I have seen pictures. He is (was) a VMK Imagineer, not a Disney Imagineer. (Actually I'm not so sure he was a VMK Imagineer, I think he was just the producer)

Yes, yavn is in his late 30's to early 40's, I have seen pictures. He is (was) a VMK Imagineer, not a Disney Imagineer. (Actually I'm not so sure he was a VMK Imagineer, I think he was just the producer)

I have seen those pictures too. So he would be like a 70 year old man playing games intended for kids. Weird O_O

They do work for Disney. The moderators work for Sulake, but the producers work for Disney. I don't know much about PirateVinnie, but yavn has worked with Disney for around seven years from what I read (might be longer now, I'm not sure when it was written).

You must get different information than I do then. . .

~Polar

Not now, but in... let's say, 30 years? Why and how? Well, when I'm an adult, I want to become Imagineer. Since Yavn and PirateVinnie are Imagineers too, maybe I will meet them when I'm an Imagineers too. There is a whole complicated, never-ever-going-to-happen-story connected to this, reply if you wanna hear it. Also please reply with your thoughts!

Thank you,
supertanno

P.S.: I also told it twice in VMK, first time everyone was like "Go Astro!" (my VMK Title is AstroTanni), the second time was with HOST_Lily and HOST_Hurricane, and they couldn't stop laughing. Is this idea then THAT weird?

Oh my...

Or...you could just become Disney CEO and re-structure the company with an emphasis on online gaming experiences based on the park?

Well, I think that the chance of an Imagineer (who has no power over Disney online communities) bringing VMK back is about the same as your rise to CEO.

On the other hand, good luck pursuing your career. Regardless, at least some new blood in the company may help prevent this type of situation from happening again.

Like most people have been saying, I think it would be easier, and more realistic for someone (or even you, if it's something you're really passionate about) to just make a new VMK, or a game just like it.

I think it's really great that you have this dream though, and I like how you talk about it as if it's going to be reality one day. It's people who have determination like that who's dreams end up coming true :)

Keep dreaming, kid! And I mean that in a good way ;)

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Im sorry but I just dont see this happening at all. I mean you cant just walk into Disney and say your an ' Imagineear'. You gotta work for the job, make the grades, and that means now, and you have to go to college.
I know, and I know that I prbably be around the 30 years (omg) when I can start with being an Imagineer (here in Holland it works a bit different then in the USA, so...), but it's my goal and my dream, I work and study hard at school, I will give everything to become an Imagineer, and I also know that I will have to go to a "Disney College" after normal college. But I don't care about that, I like school, so...

In 30 years VMK could be a holigram that you could actually walk through. But why wait 30 years? A good programer could get a spectacular new VMK up in no time.
But I was talking about a realistic VMK, a part of The Magic Kingdom (TMK) or something, like Main Street is also a part of TMK. And in 30 years, I'm around 40 years, and not 30, I mean, some experience can be handy, no?

Or...you could just become Disney CEO and re-structure the company with an emphasis on online gaming experiences based on the park?

Well, I think that the chance of an Imagineer (who has no power over Disney online communities) bringing VMK back is about the same as your rise to CEO.
1. Imagineers DO have power over Disney online communities, for as far s but not much.

2. I want to become Imagineer, not CEO, because I like rollercoasters with the Disney magic.

Dreams are always unrealistic though.
Dreams are NEVER unrealistic. Walt Disney proved it.
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Well, to be honest, Imagineers don't really have much say in whether or not the Disney online games stay open or not. I met an imagineer and a convention (I don't want to say his name because I know how strict Disney is about what their workers say, so if you want the name just PM me) and he said he did work on VMK while it was still in the concept stages but wasn't told anything about it closing until me and a few others asked him about it.

So if you're going to try to save VMK, shoot for the Walt Disney Internet Group or someone in the company who has influence over these decisions. And don't give up on your dream, either! There was another Imagineer who I never got the name of who said he dreamt of being an Imagineer since he was eight. He achieved his dream, and so can you. :)

EDIT: By the way, sorry if I repeated anything. I didn't read any of the posts before me.

Well, to be honest, Imagineers don't really have much say in whether or not the Disney online games stay open or not. I met an imagineer and a convention (I don't want to say his name because I know how strict Disney is about what their workers say, so if you want the name just PM me) and he said he did work on VMK while it was still in the concept stages but wasn't told anything about it closing until me and a few others asked him about it.

So if you're going to try to save VMK, shoot for the Walt Disney Internet Group or someone in the company who has influence over these decisions. And don't give up on your dream, either! There was another Imagineer who I never got the name of who said he dreamt of being an Imagineer since he was eight. He achieved his dream, and so can you. :)

EDIT: By the way, sorry if I repeated anything. I didn't read any of the posts before me.

You hit the nail on the head. Imagineers design rides and do background stuff. For VMK, I would consider the Disney Internet Group, or DIG. They may both be Di$ney, but it's sort of like TV shows and movies: each person is part of the same thing, but they all have different parts. In movies, there are directors, choreographers, costume designers, script writers, etc. These people may not interact at some points, since they all have different jobs. The director, however, is sort of like the C.E.O of Disney. (I forget his name) He's in charge. Imagineers are basically their own lil group. :D

What actually the plan was: when WDW would want a new part of TMG (like Main Street and Frontierland), I would make a remake of VMK in real. To make some extra magic, I would say: make VMK start again, that creates extra magic. That always helps at Disney ;).
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Dreams are NEVER unrealistic. Walt Disney proved it.

I mean that dreams are something that you REALLY have to work for and believe in, because most often than not they don't come true. I'm not saying you can't do it, I'm just saying if you manage to it definitely won't be easy.

"Shoot for the moon, even if you miss you'll land upon the stars.."

you think so, look at Marty Sklar, he's been in WED Enterprises, now WD Imagineering, since 1961 and is still and Imagineer. He's almost been at it for 50 years! But actually when he graduated he had a full time job at Disneyland in 1956, where he held responsibility for most of the park's publicity and marketing materials. There are some people who are dedicated to their jobs, and will not retire until they can't do it anymore...

the second time was with HOST_Lily and HOST_Hurricane, and they couldn't stop laughing. Is this idea then THAT weird?

Thats mean. When you bring VMK back please get some nice host's that can really help us!

I want to be an imagineer too :D i guess I am at a good start taking ap classes and getting rid of college credits..also might start taking engineering classes, however, I did know several imagineers that just played vmk and they said they couldn´t do anything about it closing :(

supertanno, if you re eligible enough and have a heart big enough to do it, you can actually make it happen again in the future and build up more dreams for maybe children of VMK players that were there this past three years.

Hehheh. I wish you the best of luck in pursuing your future career ;) An Imagineer in WDIG sounds like a great job. They need some more people who grew up playing games, and knows a thing or two about them.

P.S.: A bit of shameless self-promotion for my future self, but, ah... assuming I reach my goals for 30 years from now... If you ever need help with that new VMK, don't hesitate to call up Darkterror Productions :P

The hosts shouldn't have laughed at you. You had an idea.. maybe you WILL become an imageneer.

I'm not trying to buzz-kill here, but it really would be easier to just make another VMK. From my (so far) limited knowledge of computer programming, VMK isn't too too complex; or at least in comparison to other online games. I'd guess that anyone who can walk out of university/college with a degree in programming or game design could easily make another VMK (not counting things like funding and staffing.. etc)


It takes a bit of work, but not as, let's say, toontown online.

First, you have to make the base animations for each option. Then, somehow, you have to make the ability to combine those. Such as the 100% Caucasian torso body movements should be able to be combined with the 100% Caucasian Cargo shorts (Blue) and Sneakers.

Then, you have to program games. This required hit detection (to see when something hits a certain object, what it does, the availibility of speedy input, and many other things.

That's the base of it. There's much more complex stuff though ^_^. A lot of coding.

I'm not trying to buzz-kill here, but it really would be easier to just make another VMK. From my (so far) limited knowledge of computer programming, VMK isn't too too complex; or at least in comparison to other online games. I'd guess that anyone who can walk out of university/college with a degree in programming or game design could easily make another VMK (not counting things like funding and staffing.. etc)

Don't forget that VMK is copyrighted. And if I listen to what Disney does with people who steal their copyright... *shivers* I don't want to get that on me.

I know, and I know that I prbably be around the 30 years (omg) when I can start with being an Imagineer (here in Holland it works a bit different then in the USA, so...), but it's my goal and my dream, I work and study hard at school, I will give everything to become an Imagineer, and I also know that I will have to go to a "Disney College" after normal college. But I don't care about that, I like school, so...


But I was talking about a realistic VMK, a part of The Magic Kingdom (TMK) or something, like Main Street is also a part of TMK. And in 30 years, I'm around 40 years, and not 30, I mean, some experience can be handy, no?


1. Imagineers DO have power over Disney online communities, for as far s but not much.

2. I want to become Imagineer, not CEO, because I like rollercoasters with the Disney magic.


Dreams are NEVER unrealistic. Walt Disney proved it.
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Walt Disney Imagineering is not related to Walt Disney Parks and Resorts Online. WDI isn't even part of Walt Disney Parks and Resorts; it exists separately. WDI does not have a say in the Disney online communities (tell me if I'm wrong) because they have nothing to do with each other; they are completely separate branches of the company. A "VMK Imagineer" is nothing more than a term used to describe the producers and computer graphics designers working behind the scenes. Walt Disney Imagineering does not have Imagineers working in WDPRO, as Imagineers work in the WDI division, nothing more.

Also be wary that to be an Imagineer in the first place, you must be the best at what ever it is you are doing. You do not apply looking for a job as an Imagineer, Imagineering will find you, not the other way around. You have to have at least a Masters degree, and a degree in design. I'm not saying you shouldn't try to be an Imagineer, by all means go for it. You could have the potential to be one.

If you want to be an Imagineer, you won't have the power to create VMK, nor could you work on it should it re-open, because then you would have to work at WDPRO (or whatever that new division they call it now) and not WDI. Also note that you aren't a full time worker at WDI, unless you are extermely good; as you only work there for projects.

Some of you are thinking that I'm talking smack and I have no clue what I'm talking about, or that I'm a dream crusher. As it turns out, at WDW you can have lunch (or dinner) with a real Walt Disney Imagineer. It's a tad expensive, but I definitely would recommend it for any fan of the Walt Disney Company, Imagineering, or anyone who would want to be one. I did that and had the privelige to meet the Imagineer who designed the billboards of the Studios, among others. As it turns out, his neighbor worked with the Walt Disney Company, and he got lucky. (He was working in the hotel interior design business before.) I've also spoken with some who had friends working in the company, but couldn't make it to Imagineering.

In college you may want to try the ImagiNations competition. Information found here: http://disney.go.com/disneycareers/imaginations/

I'm not trying to discourage your dream at all. I'm only shedding some light on some popular misconceptions. If you want to be a Walt Disney Imagineer and work with the infraststructure in the parks, then by all means be an Imagineer, but remember that you will not be involved with VMK in any way, shape or form, nor would you have a say in it re-opening. If you really want VMK to re-open I suggest you get a job at the Walt Disney Internet Group, where you could build yourself up little by little (over the course of years) in order to make the decision to re-build it, given that you know everything it takes to make VMK and all of the logistics.

If you have any questions, feel free to PM me. :wave2:

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I like the idea, but like most are saying, Yavn and PirateVinnie would be as old as dirt in 30 years. And I'm hoping it won't take 30 years for us to get something like VMK back!

Well... Sorry to burst your bubble, but VMK is coming back next year... Disney is rebuilding it... But that doesn't mean dont be an Imgineer! Someone like you can create great ideas, just remember the ideas we post here, and YOU can make them come true.

Well... Sorry to burst your bubble, but VMK is coming back next year... Disney is rebuilding it... But that doesn't mean dont be an Imgineer! Someone like you can create great ideas, just remember the ideas we post here, and YOU can make them come true.

That doesn't make any sense. They just closed it down. Why on earth would they rebuild it? How/where have you heard this?

That is a rumor that vmk may open between now and 2010, but like i said that is just a rumor. There is also a rumor that when and if vmk reopens it will be pay to play.

That is a rumor that vmk may open between now and 2010, but like i said that is just a rumor. There is also a rumor that when and if vmk reopens it will be pay to play.

I would love to know where all of these "rumors" are originating. I don't think anyone here is an insider, but according to another member here that attended the NFFC convention, they may open up a game similar to VMK for WDW's 40th Anniversary which is in three years.

The rumors come from people who say they are imagineers but we all know how that goes.

It would take you alot shorter then that unless your 1yrs old. If your 10, it would only take you about 15yrs not 30. At 25 you'll probably be working at in internship at Disney, or you'll be applying for a job their already. You have a great mind, I wish to be an imagineer too! Always remember to shoot for the stars and not for the ground.

that would be cool. our kids would be able to play it and we could say, "yep i played that when i was a kid too."

I know! and i would be there playing with them lol