Last night, i had read a post that a player asked the mods to remove a mood that they had designed themselves, and today the mood is still there.

This angers me a bit because mods are supposed to help and listen to us, and they should be more than happy to do something when we ask them too. I just feel that if the player asked to have it removed ( and the player is the creator) then it should be removed.

I'm not saying anything BAD about mods, just mad that no action has taken place.

Maybe they just haven't gotten around to it yet.

Maybe they don't want to take away a mood that many people on the site use.

What mood?
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Oh! The Humukatata!(sp?) Yeah, some lady left and she wanted it removed. Maybe there getting to it.

Why would they want Haukunamatata removed?
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Why would they want Haukunamatata removed?
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Because some person made it and they quit so they wanted it removed.

Maybe only an Admin, not a Mod, is able to do that. They don't live here 24/7 and maybe they also had other, more immediate, things to attend to on this/other sites anyway. Besides, should you be ranting about something that has nothing to do with you.. this is between the creator and mods, not any of us. Just my opinion

You know, it really bugs me that a lot of the "moods" aren't actually moods. I mean, happy, stressed, scared, doubtful, patriotic, ornery, crazy: Those are all legitimate moods, sure. But author? Bookworm? Pink flips? Those aren't moods. And "villany" is misspelled.

Maybe only an Admin, not a Mod, is able to do that. They don't live here 24/7 and maybe they also had other, more immediate, things to attend to on this/other sites anyway. Besides, should you be ranting about something that has nothing to do with you.. this is between the creator and mods, not any of us. Just my opinion

Im ranting because these mods are supposed to be the greatest thing ever, and yet they can't get rid of a mood?

Maybe only one (or two) have high enough access to do that, and maybe they are busy with real lives (or ill).. they are not paid for their time and hard work. They do this when they can. I am just trying to point out that sometimes things can't always be done immediately.

Maybe only one (or two) have high enough access to do that, and maybe they are busy with real lives (or ill).. they are not paid for their time and hard work. They do this when they can. I am just trying to point out that sometimes things can't always be done immediately.

When i was viewing the thread last night, there was at least 4 mods viewing the thread. And if you can acutally put the moods on, im pretty sure you can take them off @_@

Only myself and Nick are able to add and remove moods from the forums. Other admins may remove moods by adjusting the displayed list, but they can't add moods. All other mods don't have access to the mood settings.

Most moods are not only used here, but on all of VMKF's sister sites. That means any mood removed would have to be removed off of 4 other forums. We take submittions of moods on all the sites so we tend to share them with all the sites. Though not every mood is shared on every site as some are more specific to certain sites with certain themes based upon the game they are the fansite of.

Moods are submitted to the site for our use. We consider this a donation to help the community as well as the forums. I've had another user request a mood removed for a different reason and I told them no as well. After I explained based upon their reasoning to remove the mood, they were fine with keeping it up. Actaully, I believe I have an improved version they created to replace their original, but haven't had time to do it yet.

To be honest, everything posted on these forums are legally Nick's to use as he sees fits. Unless the material is legally copyrighted or trademarked with a government. This is in the disclaimer every must agree to when they join as a member.

Suming it all up, I see no reason to remove a mood just because someone got upset by something and decided to quit coming to VMKF. I'm sure some will not agree with me on this, but this is our official stance on this and all moods that we have accepted for our use. If you don't want your art work displayed here, then don't submit it.

Btw, the moods are an expression of personality and not neccesaritily an actual mood. Moods are truly just a "for fun" thing and therefore we've added several just fun or funny moods to try to fit everyone's moods or expressions.

You know, it really bugs me that a lot of the "moods" aren't actually moods. I mean, happy, stressed, scared, doubtful, patriotic, ornery, crazy: Those are all legitimate moods, sure. But author? Bookworm? Pink flips? Those aren't moods. And "villany" is misspelled.

They can all be moods.
Pink flips = You wanna wear/have pink flips.
Author = Your in the mood to write.
Bookworm = You feel like reading a bunch of books.

They can all be moods.
Pink flips = You wanna wear/have pink flips.
Author = Your in the mood to write.
Bookworm = You feel like reading a bunch of books.

That's true, good point waffles.

Everything on the list can be a mood or expression. I usually use Pixieish as my mood

~Disney :mickbar:

Well, ok, but the word is "villainy," not "villany."

As to the copyright issue, wouldn't pretty much every image on DisneysOnlineWorlds.com be infringing on Disney's copyright?

From the Walt Disney Internet Group Terms of Use (http://home.disney.go.com/guestservices/termsofuse):
The use of any information, content or materials on a WDIG Site on any other Web site or computer environment is prohibited.

Well, ok, but the word is "villainy," not "villany."

As to the copyright issue, wouldn't pretty much every image on DisneysOnlineWorlds.com be infringing on Disney's copyright?

From the Walt Disney Internet Group Terms of Use (http://home.disney.go.com/guestservices/termsofuse):Since we're not using any of the images for personal gain, I don't believe they see it as a problem. I'm sure if they did, they would have contacted us by now. Disney is quite active about keeping their copyrights.

Since we're not using any of the images for personal gain, I don't believe they see it as a problem. I'm sure if they did, they would have contacted us by now. Disney is quite active about keeping their copyrights.
I understand the "not for personal gain" argument (though as these sites generate advertising revenue, they are technically commercial sites), but WDIG's Terms of Use are very clear on the matter and do not specify whether a Web site is or is not commercial. I quote again (emphasis mine):The use of any information, content or materials on a WDIG Site on any other Web site or computer environment is prohibited. No, I'm not trying to bring down the Wiki, and of course "IANAL," but as you brought the issue of copyright into this discussion, I just wanted to point this out.

I understand the "not for personal gain" argument (though as these sites generate advertising revenue, they are technically commercial sites), but WDIG's Terms of Use are very clear on the matter and do not specify whether a Web site is or is not commercial. I quote again (emphasis mine):No, I'm not trying to bring down the Wiki, and of course "IANAL," but as you brought the issue of copyright into this discussion, I just wanted to point this out.
Actually, we're a non-profit organization. Considering how large the sites are that we run, Disney wouldn't hesitate to inform us of any violations of their copyrights. They have contacted us before about various things which we've settled to our mutual satisfaction and user created images have never been an issue.

Actually, we're a non-profit organization. Considering how large the sites are that we run, Disney wouldn't hesitate to inform us of any violations of their copyrights. They have contacted us before about various things which we've settled to our mutual satisfaction and user created images have never been an issue.
Interesting. I am, of course, curious about the "various things" and the "mutual satisfaction," but those are obviously none of my business, so I'll just drop it here. Thanks for responding. :)

Just to chime in here:

If I create something at work (a macro or server program) that the whole office uses, I don't go into the system and remove it if I leave my employer.

I think this situation is similar. Someone created a "mood" and now wants it off the list because she left? Sorry, that's unrealistic.

BTW: We need a mood called 'Spacey', with a space bubble helmet or a rocket ship.

If I create something at work (a macro or server program) that the whole office uses, I don't go into the system and remove it if I leave my employer.
No, but depending on the circumstances of your departure, you might activate that virus you secretly planted.

You know, it really bugs me that a lot of the "moods" aren't actually moods. I mean, happy, stressed, scared, doubtful, patriotic, ornery, crazy: Those are all legitimate moods, sure. But author? Bookworm? Pink flips? Those aren't moods. And "villany" is misspelled.

I will make an alternate for "Villainy" called "Villany(sp)" :)

I will make an alternate for "Villainy" called "Villany(sp)" :)
Uh. Thanks.

Uh. Thanks.

You seem disappointed... did you want it spelled right?

(Graphics people are seldom the best of spellers - myself included)

You seem disappointed... did you want it spelled right?
Actually, I thing your idea is very clever. But maybe there could also be a correctly spelled version?

Moods are submitted to the site for our use. We consider this a donation to help the community as well as the forums. I've had another user request a mood removed for a different reason and I told them no as well. After I explained based upon their reasoning to remove the mood, they were fine with keeping it up. Actaully, I believe I have an improved version they created to replace their original, but haven't had time to do it yet.

To be honest, everything posted on these forums are legally Nick's to use as he sees fits. Unless the material is legally copyrighted or trademarked with a government. This is in the disclaimer every must agree to when they join as a member.

Suming it all up, I see no reason to remove a mood just because someone got upset by something and decided to quit coming to VMKF. I'm sure some will not agree with me on this, but this is our official stance on this and all moods that we have accepted for our use. If you don't want your art work displayed here, then don't submit it.


Just wanted to add another point here regarding Batleth's comments above...If this image (a.k.a. mood) was ever copyrighted or trademarked then vmkforums and subsites would have required permission upfront before utilizing the image. The disclosure or permission would have been granted through some legal document or even electronic communication (email, instant messaging, etc). The permission would have been granted through a time frame month, year or life of this site. If the member had a dispute and requested the image removed due to copyright or trademark, then that member may have a difficult legal fight because they granted permission for a certain time frame. This is specifically if the member posted the image on vmkforums and read the disclaimer, or communicated that this site could utilize this image.

If this member had their own web site with this image, and vmkforums utilized the image without permission then this would be a different scenario...

Once you submit something to a site, it becomes their property. As Batleth stated, it is in the agreement when you sign up. Maybe people need to read it a bit more carefully before they click ok.

Yes, pink flips is a mood. It's my silent protest to VMK that I think they need pink flips. Since they won't seem to listen to me via the black hole, I use it here (as well as a few others)!

This entire rant is unbelievable to me in the first place. The MODS do SO much for this site, so to openly attack them (in my view) by saying they don't listen is uncalled for. I often find that if I have, in my view, a pressing question I hop into chat and ask them there. They are always more than willing to answer questions and are a friendly group.

Sometimes the MOD that I've messaged in the past wasn't the MOD that I should have gone to in the past and it slowed down the reply/action I was looking for, but things DO get done around here.

Also, many things that go on don't need to be smeared around the boards, if there is not a posted reply out on the forums, it doesn't mean that they aren't listening. Maybe they did the adult thing and took it to a PM, where it most likely should have been done in the first place.

If I was a MOD I'd ignore requests without merit as well.

If I was a MOD I'd ignore requests without merit as well.

Looks like you have something else to add to your list (http://www.vmkforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=133995) now mystery ;)

You know, it really bugs me that a lot of the "moods" aren't actually moods. I mean, happy, stressed, scared, doubtful, patriotic, ornery, crazy: Those are all legitimate moods, sure. But author? Bookworm? Pink flips? Those aren't moods. And "villany" is misspelled.

Well is neotenous a mood?

yes it is I looked it up in the webster dictionary
neotenous, adj, a way of being awesome or saying you feel so awesome that you want fozzie as your avatar.(Latin)

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This makes no sense..it's not much of a deal! It's just a mood!

I think you guys are being kind of harsh, I think wondermanforever is sorry and made a mistake and they prefer not to be yelled at. So I think this thread should be closed because I believe they learned their lesson.

to me this rant really needs to be dropped. this ranting is all over a mood and it is kind of silly. i agree that if you submit something to vmk techinally it becomes vmk property and then vmk should have the right to decide what to do with it. being that it is just a mood i don't see why people can't use it. i can understand if it was something bigger but it is just a mood. i think this just needs to be dropped and we all need to not worry about it anymore