So, this version of pirates game has been out for about a year in a half. In all that time I never heard ANYONE complain about gold up until about two months ago. Now, almost every time you use it, you get a "Cheap" from the person on the other team.

Where do people come out on this, and what is with this new rash of everyone saying it cheap? My take is, it's part of the game. The game designers put it there and if I get it, i'm going to use it.

What ever happened to good sportsmanship and just playing a clean game? If fate puts the gold in my opponents hands, and they kill me, you know what I say? NOTHING. It was their luck to get it and skill to hit me with it. You tip your hat and play the next round. If people are bothered by gold take it up with yavn, not me, because he and his team saw fit to put it in the game. I'm just a player.

If people don't like gold, and will pick it up and waste it, that's fine, but you can't expect everyone else in the world to throw gold away just because you don't like it. (News flash: Not everyone in the world thinks like you, and its pretty arrogent to feel like they should).

Its not just gold either, people get on you for hitting them when they are stuck, taking all the health and ammo, hitting them when they are afk.... guess what? People do all those things to me, all the time! Its just part of the game! Yesterday it was me versus another person who was hopelessly stuck for about 30 seconds while I killed his partner. After that i went over and shot the guy who was stuck and he says "no fair, I was stuck." Was I just supposed to sit there and let the timer run out???????


I'm waiting for the day someone says I'm mean because I didn't ask permission before shooting them.

Again, I have NO PROBLEM what-so-ever with people refusing to use gold or shoot a stuck ship. What bothers me is that these people think its unfair if you do what they choose not to (especially since I have no idea if you would do it or not!)

So how do people feel about this?

I do agree, it's a game.
They made gold to use it, but I don't know if it was the smartest move.
Also, if your stuck, I would have waited and told them to click the back of their ships.

I do whatever gets me credits, whether it is ' cheap ' or not.

-Goofy:goofy:

I agree. Also, if someone is stuck, it's not our fault they can't control their ship. I also dislike when people say I'm new let me win or I'm on a quest let me win.

A bunch of cry-babies, sore losers, whatever other silly names you can think of. If you think gold is cheap, then call VMK cheap. I'm not the one you should blame. (don't think I'm encouraging anyone to say VMK is cheap though..)

ok I am not a seasoned pirates player but when i do i have fun with it. I could care less if the other person uses gold or not. it is just a game! And when i get stuck i usually type 'dude i am stuck come shoot me now lol'. If you can't have fun playing a game i say plz do not play! Maybe someday i will get good at this game not get stuck and get the gold and blow them out of the water, but i will be a good sport and have fun. I wish everybody else would too. thanks for the rant and yes i am tired of ppl saying 'I am on a quest' or 'I am new let me win'. I have the same problems with ppl in fireworks game as well. they say 'plz let me get in first place i am new'. grrr! Oh well rant over lol

I agree with you completely. Gold is just a strategy! I also agree with you about the getting stuck thing...
A few weeks ago, I was playing a game of pirates, and my opponent had gotten stuck. My teammate told me not to shoot them. I was multi-tasking at the time and wasn't paying attention to what my teammate had said, so I went and killed them anyway. It was a complete accident, but instead of accepting my mistake, they (my TEAMMATE) scream at me that I'm cheap... How in the world is that cheap? I know it's not always your fault if you get stuck, but how is it fair to me that I just sit there and let you win anyway?
Besides, it's just a game. You will have plenty of other chances to win more games. Winning a single game of pirates is not a life/death situation.

I believe my best thoughts on the statement are explained here: http://www.vmkforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1799789&postcount=17

I believe my best thoughts on the statement are explained here: http://www.vmkforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1799789&postcount=17

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UPDATE: Tonight i got a "cheap" for shooting someone with gold again.... with 8 seconds left in the gold rush round.... now that is just a sore loser.

My friend has actually been threatened with being reported for using gold. (Note, if anyone ever does this to you, report THEM because false reporting is a BIG VMK no-no).

I suppose it isn't as much of a rant that it couldn't be posted here:

I use it if I get a chance to get it.

For me gold is just part of the game. Whether I be using it to lure an opponent into a trap, or to shoot them with it, it gives everyone an equal opportunity to use, therefore should be treated as a tool to use.

The thing I don't understand the most about this, is the fact that others call it 'cheap,' when in fact we are playing a game called "Pirates of the Caribbean." I've always thought that pirates was about destroying the opponent's ships. It has never crossed my mind until now to think "Oh wait, that guy wants to be hit with a silvery gray cannonball rather than one which color is gold." It isn't like a homing missile or anything, which immediately wins the game. Even if you achieve in obtaining it (which is a struggle between both teams), and you fire it in hopes of killing an opponent, you still could miss.

Another topic that I would like to point out is the "revenge." Yes my opinion on this is that there should be no hatred towards other players for winning with gold. Yet MANY people use gold to 'get revenge' on the others for using it. Why not just play the game for the fun rather than the "haha I totally owned you!" Many people (even here), say that they only use gold if the other people use it. But my question is, do two wrongs make a right? I personally don't think using gold is wrong, but many do. And those are the same people that use it because the other team uses it. If something is truly wrong to you, then you shouldn't do it just because another person does. If your friend jumped off a cliff, would you do it also?

I see no point in giving practice to players in the game, other than those who are new. If they want practice dodging then they should either practice with some friends or set up some AI (Artificial Intelligence) units, and to fight them. Don't take it out on other players just because they don't like following your rules.

The point of this is that it is an EQUAL OPPORTUNITY weapon. Everyone can get it depending on their luck and skill. If you say that it is only a matter of luck to get gold then you would be only partially right. Likewise, the entire pirates game is based on partially luck. Do you say the other team is cheating if no health appears near you when you need it? So, why then, do you say it is cheap for gold to appear on a random spot on the board, like health and regular ammo? They are both one in the same, and all these elements make up the pirate game.


You have just as much chance of gold appearing near you as you do regular ammo and health, so why not rant about how unfair it is that health appeared right next to your opponent, rather than the gold which appeared at the top of the screen, but you didn't even try to go get?

I agree. Also, if someone is stuck, it's not our fault they can't control their ship. I also dislike when people say I'm new let me win or I'm on a quest let me win.

I also dislike that even though I don't play VMK much anymore. But you see, the problem for that is that they could be lying as well! On my smiley rating system, I give using gold a :ThumbsUp:, I give shooting a stuck ship :Question2:, and I give saying 'I'm on a quest', etc. a big, fat,:CrossBones:!

Just ignore them they are probably only 5 or 6 anyway

I also dislike that even though I don't play VMK much anymore. But you see, the problem for that is that they could be lying as well! On my smiley rating system, I give using gold a :ThumbsUp:, I give shooting a stuck ship :Question2:, and I give saying 'I'm on a quest', etc. a big, fat,:CrossBones:!

Exactly. That just makes me angry. It is so much easier then to make their ship dead. Too bad if you want to win, we all do so try again with other people. Can't really explain how I feel.

most of the time people say that because they are mad they lost

what's next?

choosing the black pearl is cheap because it has too much speed?

most of the time people say that because they are mad they lost

what's next?

choosing the black pearl is cheap because it has too much speed?

People do say that. LOL

I think gold is a usefull tool against the other team. I don't think it is "cheap" (becuase come on, gold costs alot now-a-days! hehe.) like some players say it to be. The players that do claim in to be cheap when they are in an easy shooting range/distance and are not playing very well are probably just upset about losing. I admit, I used to yell at my computer when I'd lose but I wouldn't try and start a fight. You lose some you win some, no big.

I also give people a few seconds to move their ships if they are stuck, but I usually ask, or give them a minute or two to move their ships before I shoot a stuck one (to be fair, of course).

People do say that. LOL

I think gold is a usefull tool against the other team. I don't think it is "cheap" (becuase come on, gold costs alot now-a-days! hehe.) like some players say it to be. The players that do claim in to be cheap when they are in an easy shooting range/distance and are not playing very well are probably just upset about losing. I admit, I used to yell at my computer when I'd lose but I wouldn't try and start a fight. You lose some you win some, no big.

I also give people a few seconds to move their ships if they are stuck, but I usually ask, or give them a minute or two to move their ships before I shoot a stuck one (to be fair, of course).

really?!?!

without gold how would we decide the end of a long game? rock paper scissors?

someone said, choose a different ship and rematch! that ship is too fast. it cheap!

I feel that gold is unskilled, because it only takes one shot to kill someone. Where's the skill in that? Nowhere. Shooting stuck ships, it just isn't fair. It's also unskillful. It's like kicking them when they're down, how fair is that? All in all, it's just a game. Use what you want, it's just virtual.

I feel that gold is unskilled, because it only takes one shot to kill someone. Where's the skill in that? Nowhere. Shooting stuck ships, it just isn't fair. It's also unskillful. It's like kicking them when they're down, how fair is that? All in all, it's just a game. Use what you want, it's just virtual.

So it takes no skill at all to shoot someone, even just once?
Think of it this way...
Your teammate goes and shoots your opponent a few times so that they only have one health point left, but your teammate needs to go get more ammo. You decide to finish the opponent off so the round doesn't last too long. It only takes you one shot to blow up their ship. Is that cheap? Using teamwork? It only took one shot, just like gold did.
In my opinion, gold is not 'cheap' because it still takes skill to shoot a ship. It would only be annoying if the person completely missed your ship, but then you accidentally ran into the gold. Even then, it wasn't cheap because it was your mistake that you ran into it.

I feel that gold is unskilled, because it only takes one shot to kill someone. Where's the skill in that? Nowhere. Shooting stuck ships, it just isn't fair. It's also unskillful. It's like kicking them when they're down, how fair is that? All in all, it's just a game. Use what you want, it's just virtual.

I'm hit with gold a very small percentage of the times it is actually used against me - and hit others with gold a higher percentage that 50%. There is the same amount of skill in hitting someone with a lead cannon as a gold one.

I do generally wait for those who get stuck, unless I am right next to them or in their area when it occurs, but I don't find it unfair for them at all. Those who can't steer, yet expect you to allow them time to practice during the middle of a level 3? Or those who want to just play the game with the cannons... instead of wasting it waiting on those who will call them "cheaters" if they don't wait. I find it completely fair to both sides - just a matter of the player's thought.

So it takes no skill at all to shoot someone, even just once?
Think of it this way...
You're not seeing my point. Of course it takes skill to shoot, but it takes even more skill to get them with all of the cannons.

Your teammate goes and shoots your opponent a few times so that they only have one health point left, but your teammate needs to go get more ammo. You decide to finish the opponent off so the round doesn't last too long. It only takes you one shot to blow up their ship. Is that cheap? Using teamwork? It only took one shot, just like gold did.
When you use gold, it kills a ship at one hit no matter what the health. In the situation you placed here, he already had one health.

In my opinion, gold is not 'cheap' because it still takes skill to shoot a ship. It would only be annoying if the person completely missed your ship, but then you accidentally ran into the gold. Even then, it wasn't cheap because it was your mistake that you ran into it.
Wait wait wait, hold up. Like I said, it may take skill to shoot a ship, but it takes even more skill to sink it.

And Whipstersh, I still find it unfair because he has no hope at all unless he can get out easier.

You're not seeing my point. Of course it takes skill to shoot, but it takes even more skill to get them with all of the cannons.


You're right, I don't see your point. So what if it only takes one shot? I don't see why that is so bad. Gold was put in the game so people would have a strategy other than just shooting normally, not so people would have an advantage. Each team has the chance to get the gold, it's not given to a certain team.


When you use gold, it kills a ship at one hit no matter what the health. In the situation you placed here, he already had one health.

Exactly.
It's no different shooting someone with one health than it is shooting them with gold. Each way it only takes one shot.

Ahg. When you shoot someone with gold, they're not always going to have one health.

Ahg. When you shoot someone with gold, they're not always going to have one health.

Either way, it still only takes one shot.

My friend has actually been threatened with being reported for using gold. (Note, if anyone ever does this to you, report THEM because false reporting is a BIG VMK no-no).

I just say HAHA! Is that the same?

If you want the gold I will let you have it!
OK boys, let them have it! BOOM!!!!!

I just say HAHA! Is that the same?

If you want the gold I will let you have it!
OK boys, let them have it! BOOM!!!!!


Remind me to avoid you in the pirates lobby.... lol

BTW, HAHA! does count as the same thing, because then they have to sit there and stew about it ;)

While I will shoot a stuck ship I'd also like to point out that shooting a stuck ship is a BAD move tactically. I can't tell you how many times my partner has gotten stuck and someone from the other team just sails up and sits there shooting at them and ignoring me. They usually end up dead because I shoot them while they are sitting still. Its not a very good idea to focus your attention on a harmless ship while the free ship is hunting you down. I generally only attack stuck ships if they are the only ones left on the board.