I just remembered this program- taken away in October, and claimed to be coming back soon.
What happened to it? anyone know?

They said check the newsletter for next month :]

there is still a CL_ on my friend List

there is still a CL_ on my friend List

She probably hasn't logged in to get the CL_ part of her title taken off. It will probably be gone at her next log-in.

It will be back, soon (http://www.vmkforums.com/forums/userpage.php?do=main&userid=4665)..

Xiaolin why does your link bring me to your userpage that says "beware of the cheerleader in you"
0_0

Yes, the program was taken away and in my personal opinion was a great move on VMKs part. The downfall on this though is that the program is supposedly being "fixed" and will be back at sometime. I have been playing VMK since Beta, and during the first year of VMK the Leaders were very helpful in the game overall as the game was new as well as the players. Then the past year it seemed the program was going down the drains- it wasnt necessary and I can't believe they added more leaders. This was when the program got very pointless. After VMK being opened for 2+ years to the public almost all the players that played for a year+ knew their VMK facts and can help without have a worthless badge and prefix on their title.

This is why I oppose the program as a whole. What's the point of having people walk around with a CL_ prefix and a special badge when there are others without them and can help just as easily. Also- just to add I just it was very pathetic how I ran into some Leaders who weren't helpful, and also knew very little regarding VMK as a whole ;)


Overall most of the Leaders themselves were great, but the program was a dud.

Yes, the program was taken away and in my personal opinion was a great move on VMKs part. The downfall on this though is that the program is supposedly being "fixed" and will be back at sometime. I have been playing VMK since Beta, and during the first year of VMK the Leaders were very helpful in the game overall as the game was new as well as the players. Then the past year it seemed the program was going down the drains- it wasnt necessary and I can't believe they added more leaders. This was when the program got very pointless. After VMK being opened for 2+ years to the public almost all the players that played for a year+ knew their VMK facts and can help without have a worthless badge and prefix on their title.

This is why I oppose the program as a whole. What's the point of having people walk around with a CL_ prefix and a special badge when there are others without them and can help just as easily. Also- just to add I just it was very pathetic how I ran into some Leaders who weren't helpful, and also knew very little regarding VMK as a whole ;)


Overall most of the Leaders themselves were great, but the program was a dud.
agreed completely, But i'm just wondering what happened to the program?

The were editing it,
I asked about it in contact us, they said they will have an annoucement about it,
When the said it would be on hold they meant they wouldn't be working on it for a while, too busy doing other stuff I suppose

Hah, wow. I clearly haven't been on VMK in a while. I never even knew about the CL program being taken away! Haha, no wonder all of my community leader friends had their CL_ taken out of their names :P

~Pink

Even though I was a leader until they took it away, I think the leader thing has been going downhill.

The new "updates" by what an old newsletter said, seems like they will be taking turns on who will be leader, which is a very very bad idea. That's not what being a leader is meant to be and they know it. Let's just hope I'm wrong. They said something like, there will be more ways to become a leader.

~HAMD

Thank you VMK for removing a program that didn't work. I agree with every post and hope that the spirit of the program, namely, helping out others will pass to everyone and not be left to a few.

~Green?

I have seen several leaders in the past that didn't care to help, they just wanted to be "popular."

I am very glad that the program is over.

i hope they do start it again bc i like to help ppl but nobody believes me and when the CL_ program was still in effect everybody believed them more than other players :)

Yes, the program was taken away and in my personal opinion was a great move on VMKs part. The downfall on this though is that the program is supposedly being "fixed" and will be back at sometime. I have been playing VMK since Beta, and during the first year of VMK the Leaders were very helpful in the game overall as the game was new as well as the players. Then the past year it seemed the program was going down the drains- it wasnt necessary and I can't believe they added more leaders. This was when the program got very pointless. After VMK being opened for 2+ years to the public almost all the players that played for a year+ knew their VMK facts and can help without have a worthless badge and prefix on their title.

This is why I oppose the program as a whole. What's the point of having people walk around with a CL_ prefix and a special badge when there are others without them and can help just as easily. Also- just to add I just it was very pathetic how I ran into some Leaders who weren't helpful, and also knew very little regarding VMK as a whole ;)


Overall most of the Leaders themselves were great, but the program was a dud.

I took the time to read this and I agree 100 percent. I know many leaders who do not even know what they are doing.

i think they should do it like a little test before u put in the reason u wanna become one and stuff

Most people who helped out other people weren't even CL_'s. It wasn't necessary, and never will be.

I think the program will be back later this year in a completely different way.

many more the program will be back and better than ever

I thought the CL_ program was great, although some leaders just wanted to be popular and cool - rather then helping players. I had the biggest dream to be a leader, then they stopped doing it.

I can't wait until it comes back, but sadly, my computer does not let me see the newsletter for a very weird reason (that I do not know of) so I can't keep up with the News of VMK!

~Tink

Really, if we're surviving without the program now, what need is there for it?

Really, if we're surviving without the program now, what need is there for it?

who doesn't need CL_ ????

Many people will help others w/o being a community leader and that will never change but I dont see why adding the title of CL_ would help. But I would hope to become one :]

the point of a community leader is like getting best game room
instead of a pin u get a CL_ and ppl know u did/are doing a good job and staff like it so why shouldn't they?
that's not to say ppl without best game don't have good games
it's just that staff feels these are better
like CL_s

leaders were not mean and bad. A lot of the leaders were nice. Maybe some of them got mad cause maybe people kept asking for free or something, but they were not mean and bad. So dont be flaming people saying that. Cause your posting false information.

the point of a community leader is like getting best game room
instead of a pin u get a CL_ and ppl know u did/are doing a good job and staff like it so why shouldn't they?
that's not to say ppl without best game don't have good games
it's just that staff feels these are better
like CL_s
Hmm.. maybe your right, well I dont actually think of it as a prize because your sending in an application to get a prize of the title of CL_. I think that using the CL_ is to show to others they are trying to keep vmk safe or stuff like that know that I think about it.

Hmm.. maybe your right, well I dont actually think of it as a prize because your sending in an application to get a prize of the title of CL_. I think that using the CL_ is to show to others they are trying to keep vmk safe or stuff like that know that I think about it.

exactly! then ppl who don't know somebody can immedietly tell that they are willing to help and can tell u the rules

it's a way of seeing who can help without running in to mean ppl (most of the time ;))

i think they should do it like a little test before u put in the reason u wanna become one and stuff

That's what they did already.
You had to say why you wanted to become one, and if they thought that was a good enough answer, you would get an e-mail with 4 *TOP SECRET* questions that you had to answer fully and well to become a CL. It wasn't just click a button and become a leader, you had to put a lot of thought into it.

They did say it was supposed to be mentioned in October, didn't they? Well, I'm not surprised it's not back yet. I am still wondering what is happening to the program, though.

I wonder, if they do it, how many players they'll accept

I am always out there ready to help a new member as well as assist in any way i can to any vmk peep. When I am not playing fireworks, I am out and around the kingdom seeing if there are any members who might need assistance. I sit down at the Blue Bayou eating my lunch or just resting seeing if any of the members need to know any of the rules. I guess in a way I am a CL, but I do not want the title.

Really, if we're surviving without the program now, what need is there for it?

you're exactly right..

half the people they gave the position to anyway, really had no need for it.. plus, what is the point of being a leader if you cant do anything different than a normal player? i hosted chat rooms on another site a while back, but there was a purpose behind us.. not to just walk around and *try* to help.. we actually DID things to make sure it was safe and fun, and we were there to protect.. authority is good when its in the right hands..

Yes, the program was taken away and in my personal opinion was a great move on VMKs part. The downfall on this though is that the program is supposedly being "fixed" and will be back at sometime. I have been playing VMK since Beta, and during the first year of VMK the Leaders were very helpful in the game overall as the game was new as well as the players. Then the past year it seemed the program was going down the drains- it wasnt necessary and I can't believe they added more leaders. This was when the program got very pointless. After VMK being opened for 2+ years to the public almost all the players that played for a year+ knew their VMK facts and can help without have a worthless badge and prefix on their title.

This is why I oppose the program as a whole. What's the point of having people walk around with a CL_ prefix and a special badge when there are others without them and can help just as easily. Also- just to add I just it was very pathetic how I ran into some Leaders who weren't helpful, and also knew very little regarding VMK as a whole ;)


Overall most of the Leaders themselves were great, but the program was a dud.

I agree 100% with KrazyLuke. None of the CL_ ever helped me even when I asked. also I don't think it is right to give some people special rights over other people.:ThumbsUp:

Either VMK needs to have a stronger application or no CL's at all. If I were a CL, I would help players too..but some didn't at all..VMK staff are just not choosing the right people anyway.

On another site I did this kinda thread and as one put it "They will probably never bring it back, we'll forget about it, there will be a few un-answered Contact Us messages, but then it will be forgotten" I agree with the users idea. Plus, it was a fake. I know some helped out, but when I was cheering a teammate on my team who was a CL_ in pirates, she said "Shut up guest, u no talking gets lag" and she swore at meh!! I reported her, and guess what? "Use the ignore button" -_- lol
~Strike

Perhaps they need CL's to counteract people like me who knowingly spread misinformation. I'm a menace, I tells ya; a menace II society, virtually speaking. :cool:

Ricks (who shouts it out to his pink angels... yo my ninjas!)

The game needs CL's. The would reduce the ban madness. Also, when people are CLs (and you have to work to keep it, remember!) they take personal responsibility/ownership for helping keep the game fun and safe.

And yes, I would really like to be a CL_.

-Kit-

You have to remember, when there were community leaders, they are just like any other player with feelings etc. They can have a bad day just like anyone else.

The people who were community leaders were, and still are great people and friends, they were thrown into a program with no structure, and they really weren't given a list of guidelines or rules or things they should do, so if anything, the leaders who attempted to help others should be given credit for their efforts.

I don't really think VMK really needs leaders, but I do think they were extremely helpful at some points, with trading for example, and I'm curious to see what this 'revised' program is like.

Perhaps they need CL's to counteract people like me who knowingly spread misinformation. I'm a menace, I tells ya; a menace II society, virtually speaking. :cool: This dude is out of control. :wacko8:

I like the concept behind the CL program. I personally, have only had good experiences with the former leaders in the game and am looking forward to a new Leader program. I just hope there is a better screening process so those who are there to help actually help.

-See (who shouts back at Charlie..hey yo my :shuriken8:)

This dude is out of control. :wacko8:

I like the concept behind the CL program. I personally, have only had good experiences with the former leaders in the game and am looking forward to a new Leader program. I just hope there is a better screening process so those who are there to help actually help.

-See (who shouts back at Charlie..hey yo my :shuriken8:)

Which is what I've been thinking of since they announce that they were taking leaders away, and fixing the program.

My idea is:

People complain that some leaders don't know much about vmk, so why doesn't vmk quiz the leaders, not just before they got accepted? If they fail the test, then they can no longer be a leader, easy as that.

People also say that leaders cheat off other players sometimes, or are mean to them, etc. We know VMK can look at any player anytime they want, and they can look back on stuff too. So why don't they have, some of the vmk staff looking at leaders constantly so the leaders behave, and are helpful. If they aren't then they lose their status, no warnings, because a leader should know and FOLLOW the rules and values with no warnings needed.

If they don't do something to fix these two main problems, they should just take it away, put it in the VMK Safe, and throw away the key, because some people will still act "non-leader like".

My 2Cents
~HAMD (Former CL_)

On another site I did this kinda thread and as one put it "They will probably never bring it back, we'll forget about it, there will be a few un-answered Contact Us messages, but then it will be forgotten" I agree with the users idea. Plus, it was a fake. I know some helped out, but when I was cheering a teammate on my team who was a CL_ in pirates, she said "Shut up guest, u no talking gets lag" and she swore at meh!! I reported her, and guess what? "Use the ignore button" -_- lol
~Strike

wow that is ridiciulous....O_O

Which is what I've been thinking of since they announce that they were taking leaders away, and fixing the program.

My idea is:

People complain that some leaders don't know much about vmk, so why doesn't vmk quiz the leaders, not just before they got accepted? If they fail the test, then they can no longer be a leader, easy as that.

People also say that leaders cheat off other players sometimes, or are mean to them, etc. We know VMK can look at any player anytime they want, and they can look back on stuff too. So why don't they have, some of the vmk staff looking at leaders constantly so the leaders behave, and are helpful. If they aren't then they lose their status, no warnings, because a leader should know and FOLLOW the rules and values with no warnings needed.

If they don't do something to fix these two main problems, they should just take it away, put it in the VMK Safe, and throw away the key, because some people will still act "non-leader like".

My 2Cents
~HAMD (Former CL_)

sorry about the double post but....

community leaders are supposed to help players. By the looks of it, it is now sounding like a job for VMK. I doubt any player can follow all rules constantly while being in vmk because vmk staff are getting too cautious nowadays. People can't spend all day and night being a leader and acting good. Most of the leaders are going to crack eventually..

I hope that soon they will open it because without the leader system vmk has gone into utter(or less) chaos because there has been a increase in the rate of bans in vmk


Off topic:1400 post WOOT!

i always hated the CL program cause originally the popular ppl were CLs and an unpopular CL became popular and also i once applied and they said no to me even tho i had the questions 100% correct and i was a good player although i had been banned for 1 HOUR for something i never did (this was back when staff believed all reports unlike now they have a randomly generated answer(in my opinion) )

I agree 100% with KrazyLuke. None of the CL_ ever helped me even when I asked. also I don't think it is right to give some people special rights over other people.:ThumbsUp:

SORRY FOR DOUBLE POST but this is a big subject with me

and i agree with u they never helped because they were popular and treated the rest of us like piles of dirt (no offence to those CLs that were actually nice) like id ask a CL a q and they would:

A. Leave
B. Curse
C. Use Magic To Get Away
D. Run To The Other Side Of The Room
E. Tell Me To Leave
F. Make Me Leave (their room)
G. Tell Me To Flip Off (or any other word like that)

so i think the CLs should be the ppl that TRUELY care for the players and actually help those who need it the most like guest at esplanade that need help and stuff.

(Any comments? PM me and i'll answer any Q's about these CL Posts of mine)