the pats are unstoppable! what do you think?:xtongue:

They got lucky against the Ravens. I wanted them to win and all, but I think the way they played the whole game.. they should have lost.
Patriots are stopable, they get lucky on nailbiters.

The Pats got lucky that the Ravens didn't beat them
the Ravens should've stopped them on 2 fourth downs
they also could've gotten an interception at the end of the game

heh i see alot of should have

might want to add could have

and would have

but DIDNT! WOOT!

Wait..... What are you guy's talking about??

Wait..... What are you guy's talking about??

The soon to be 13 - 0 New England Patriots :xgrin:

You're obviously not a Football Fan.
We're talking about the New England Patriots.

Oh okay... Thanks..

they will win the superbowl, the end

The soon to be 13 - 0 New England Patriots :xgrin:

Third quarter. 31 to 13.
Watch out Steelers.
:xgrin:

Hmm. I have a feeling that they will be the next undefeated team since the Miami Dolphins.

They are annoying me. It's not even fun to watch them play. They act like they havent won in years, they brag, and it's just annoying.

they will win the superbowl, the end
Doubt it. Guess who is on the loose? Hehe.. LETS GO SAINTS.. and LIONS!

They are annoying me. It's not even fun to watch them play. They act like they havent won in years, they brag, and it's just annoying.

you are contradicting yourself, you cant act like you havent won in years and brag at the same time.

you are contradicting yourself, you cant act like you havent won in years and brag at the same time.
Yes you can, Patriots are a bunch of show boaters.

well when you go the boat ROFL

Oh Insanity, neither the saints or detroit is even going to make the playoffs how do you suppose they will win the superbowl? ROFL

I really thought the Steelers would get them but they are truly a great team and it would not surprise me at all if they do go 16-0 in the regular season

They are annoying me. It's not even fun to watch them play. They act like they havent won in years, they brag, and it's just annoying.


I never heard them brag. When Brady is interviewed, he doesn't credit himself; he credits the team as a whole.

You could be inspired by them you know. Sounds dorky, but they are a shinning example of team work. Yeah okay, I'll shut up now.

But still, they are my favorite & always will be.

I really thought the Steelers would get them but they are truly a great team and it would not surprise me at all if they do go 16-0 in the regular season


To be honest, I would love to see that more than a superbowl! As we all know (when we aren't trash talking) any team can be beaten on any sunday. The 16-0 thing would be so cool to see, the superbowl would be gravy!

I like gravy. O_o

Okay, seriously. The perfect record would be like the Sox winning after 86 years of nothingness. :xshocked:

Patriots may not even go to the playoffs, the coach and the players want to go 16-0 and not risk losing in the playoffs.
Aengus, could be a monday too;-) LOL.

Umm, aren't they already in standings for the playoffs?

Patriots may not even go to the playoffs, the coach and the players want to go 16-0 and not risk losing in the playoffs.

They already won their division, they are in the play offs.:xhuh:

and yes could be a monday, even an occasional thursday ROFL

It's declared. 13 and 0. Shyeah.

It's declared. 13 and 0. Shyeah.

TiniPink!!!!

High five, Aengus :xgrin:

:woohoo:

The Patriots got caught cheating and probably are still cheating. The Cowboys are Number 1!!!

The Patriots got caught cheating and probably are still cheating. The Cowboys are Number 1!!!

You obviously forget about week 6 LOL

48 - 27 Dallas lost.

badly...

at home...

I never heard them brag. When Brady is interviewed, he doesn't credit himself; he credits the team as a whole.

You could be inspired by them you know. Sounds dorky, but they are a shinning example of team work. Yeah okay, I'll shut up now.

But still, they are my favorite & always will be.

That's becuase he didn't do it all by himself. He had help from Moss and the others. He is not selfish.

Doubt it. Guess who is on the loose? Hehe.. LETS GO SAINTS.. and LIONS!

We'll just have to wait and see, eh?

GO PATS!! they rule!! were unstoppable.. and i can't believe it!
And they're already in the play-offs so they can't not get in it.. LOL

You guys are jealous, just kidding, lol.
:xtongue:

The Patriots didn't cheat. :xcool:

Come On Cowboys!! We have only lost one..

Patriots...I hate the Patriots.
Go Eagles! xD
Even though there is no chance for them now...:xgrin:

Everyone knocks you when you are the best. That's why so many hate the Patriots. Jealousy. In America, we love to see the best knocked off their pedastal; I don't know why.

The Patriots are very good. They score and score. Their defense is a little shaky, I think. But they can outscore anybody. That Steeler defense that got smashed last night was the best in the NFL.

Dallas is also very good, the best in the NFC, anyway. Really good QB, WR and RB. the defense has been good. And you can't discount the Colts, who are also still a very good team.

Super Bowl Prediction: Dallas vs. New England (maybe Indy?) in a high scoring affair. Should be fun to watch for a change.

Everyone knocks you when you are the best.

They knocked the Niners, the Cowboys, the Redskins, etc. when they were all winning multiple Super Bowls.

Most people think that history began the day they were born...

That's true...and I guess I do sort of do that. But either way, I don't like any team that isn't the Eagles. Though I hardly watch football anyway...:xtongue:

I Think The Pariots Are Little Cheaters. They Video Tape Ppl During Games They Do Everything They Can.

All I can say is 13-0, so yeah.
Go Patriots ^^, but everyone has their opinions.

The Patriots got lucky. Not only should the Ravens have beaten them, but the Eagles should have beaten them as well ( my favorite team ). The Ravens made dumb mistakes and so did the Eagles. The Ravens should not have made pass interference in the endzone, and the Eagles should not have thrown in interception on the third pass of the game, and throw one at the end of the game. The only way the patriots will lose is if they lose to the Giants.

Insanity, Detriot lost like 5 games in a row.

I Think The Pariots Are Little Cheaters. They Video Tape Ppl During Games They Do Everything They Can.

An old raiders proverb.

If ya aint cheatin...
Ya aint trying... ROFL

BTW the patriots are the only team that got caught, doesnt mean they are the only ones that did it. Read up on exactly what happened and you will see this became a big deal in last years off season.

Oh and that was 12 wins ago since that happened. It doesn't seem to have changed any outcome ROFL.

The Patriots got lucky. Not only should the Ravens have beaten them, but the Eagles should have beaten them as well ( my favorite team ). The Ravens made dumb mistakes and so did the Eagles. The Ravens should not have made pass interference in the endzone, and the Eagles should not have thrown in interception on the third pass of the game, and throw one at the end of the game. The only way the patriots will lose is if they lose to the Giants.

More would have, could have, should have. The fact remains at the end of the day it was a +1 in the win column. This aint handgrenades, almost isnt a hit. This is football a win is a win.

i hope brady snaps his leg

:-o
did i say that? lol

An old raiders proverb.

If ya aint cheatin...
Ya aint trying... ROFL

BTW the patriots are the only team that got caught, doesnt mean they are the only ones that did it. Read up on exactly what happened and you will see this became a big deal in last years off season.

Oh and that was 12 wins ago since that happened. It doesn't seem to have changed any outcome ROFL.



More would have, could have, should have. The fact remains at the end of the day it was a +1 in the win column. This aint handgrenades, almost isnt a hit. This is football a win is a win. A win is a win but it was a close win. Obvisouly the Pats are not unstoppable, they got lucky in my opinion.

A win is a win but it was a close win. Obvisouly the Pats are not unstoppable, they got lucky in my opinion.

I agree they are not unstoppable, but I hardly call 13 - 0 lucky!

A win is a win but it was a close win. Obvisouly the Pats are not unstoppable, they got lucky in my opinion.

I agree, I don't see any team beating them the rest of the season. Superbowl wise I hope they don't win it, if they make it.

The only thing I am hoping is the browns win the divsion over the steelers.

I agree they are not unstoppable, but I hardly call 13 - 0 lucky!LOL, you're right there. However, they were lucky to win the Eagles and ravens game.

The Patriots got caught cheating and probably are still cheating. The Cowboys are Number 1!!!

Woooo I'm not the only one :) Go cowboys. I hope they play the patriots in the superbowl.

Honestly, I think the New England Patriots are better than any other team in the NFL by a pretty long shot even if they are cheating (They don't need too, they just don't want to win, they want to win by 40). Anyone who says they are lucky isn't thinking straight. They beat a good Pittsburgh team, they beat a good Colts team on the road although that was pretty close, they beat a good Cowboys team also on the road and I think that was by 20 points. The closest they have been to losing in a pathetic way was to the so so Eagles. Oh, and they had a Ravens team who just displayed their anger of a Patriots team that pulled off another win with some calls going their way.

Looking at those touchdowns New England got in the Pittsburgh game, they ran some pretty decent routes including the Moss touchdown that got them to 14 if I am correct.

The Patriots are not over-rated, and honestly, I don't really like them but they WILL go 16-0. lol

- Zach

I'm betting that they'll win the superbowl, but I really don't want them to. If anything, I'd rather have the Colts win.


XxChrisssy

Woot Go Pats

I also Hate How They Rip The Team After The Game Saying They Stink They Complain To Much, I Think Thats A Great Value. How About They Go Eat Some Respect Pie Instead Of Humble Pie.

I also Hate How They Rip The Team After The Game Saying They Stink They Complain To Much, I Think Thats A Great Value. How About They Go Eat Some Respect Pie Instead Of Humble Pie.

They never say say any of those things LOL.

4:15 E.T, Sunday, December 23rd.

Mark that date down. It will be the last time the Patriots are undefeated this season.

sure, sure......

4:15 E.T, Sunday, December 23rd.

Mark that date down. It will be the last time the Patriots are undefeated this season.

Nah uh. They are playing Miami that day. I truly feel sorry for them, but they aren't going to beat the Patriots. :xsmiley:

Nah uh. They are playing Miami that day. I truly feel sorry for them, but they aren't going to beat the Patriots. :xsmiley:

That will be the day.. If you were to ever meet the cowboys, thats when you would lose..

That will be the day.. If you were to ever meet the cowboys, thats when you would lose..

The Pats played the Cowboys earlier in the season I think, when both teams were still undefeated. :xgrin:

Shyeah, it would be ironic if Miami beat the Patriots :xshocked:

I keep seeing a few posts regarding if they played the Dallas Cowboys they would lose, and if I remember correctly it was a close game until halftime and then the patriots completely opened up that game. The Dallas Cowboys only loss this season was to the New England Patriots. The following are the games New England Patriots have played so far this season, and so far they have played almost all the best teams both the AFC and NFC have to offer (i.e. New York Giants last game of season):

New England Patriots 38 New York Jets (3W-10L) 14
New England Patriots 38 San Diego Chargers (8W-5L) 14
New England Patriots 38 Buffalo Bills (7W-6L) 7
New England Patriots 34 Cincinatti Bengals (5W-8L) 13
New England Patriots 34 Cleveland Browns (8W-5L) 17
New England Patriots 48 Dallas Cowboys (12W-1L) 27
New England Patriots 49 Miami Dolphins (0W-13L) 28
New England Patriots 52 Washington Redskins (6W-7L) 7
New England Patriots 24 Indianapolis Colts (11W-2L) 20
New England Patriots 56 Buffalo Bills (7W-6L) 10
New England Patriots 31 Philadelphia Eagles (5W-8L) 28
New England Patriots 27 Baltimore Ravens (4W-9L) 24
New England Patriots 34 Pittsburgh Steelers (9W-4L) 13

Honestly, I think the New England Patriots are better than any other team in the NFL by a pretty long shot even if they are cheating (They don't need too, they just don't want to win, they want to win by 40). Anyone who says they are lucky isn't thinking straight. They beat a good Pittsburgh team, they beat a good Colts team on the road although that was pretty close, they beat a good Cowboys team also on the road and I think that was by 20 points. The closest they have been to losing in a pathetic way was to the so so Eagles. Oh, and they had a Ravens team who just displayed their anger of a Patriots team that pulled off another win with some calls going their way.

Looking at those touchdowns New England got in the Pittsburgh game, they ran some pretty decent routes including the Moss touchdown that got them to 14 if I am correct.

The Patriots are not over-rated, and honestly, I don't really like them but they WILL go 16-0. lol

- Zach I'm pretty sure I was thinking straight when I watched the Pats almost lose to the Eagles and Ravens. Yeah they destroy all the good teams, but an unstoppable team does not lose to under 500 teams. Also, the Ravens had no calls go their way. They got pass interference in the endzone in the 4th quarter. That's not going to their way. I can agree with you that the Pats are the best team in the league, but don't tell me that teams were lucky to get close to beating them.

I also Hate How They Rip The Team After The Game Saying They Stink They Complain To Much, I Think Thats A Great Value. How About They Go Eat Some Respect Pie Instead Of Humble Pie. They never rip the other teams. The only team they ripped were the Steelers after their two defensive players bumped and pushed Tom Brady when they were frustrated.

The thing I hate is how Bill Belichick dresses like he's homeless.:xgrin:

I have to disagree. I love how the coach dresses, lol. Snazzy looks don't mean much and he is one guys who's proud to show it.

That sweatshirt of his could be auctioned off for a whole lot of money one day, haha.

I also don't think they want to win by 40 points... it just, happens. Besides, the last two games were pretty close in terms of the score.

Pushed Bumped They Rip The Teams Every Week. They Even Said Today That The Corner Back That Made The Guranatee Stinks. Pushing And Bumping Is Part Of The Game Of Football.

Pushed Bumped They Rip The Teams Every Week. They Even Said Today That The Corner Back That Made The Guranatee Stinks. Pushing And Bumping Is Part Of The Game Of Football. No, they pushed him after the play was dead. I'm talking touchdown and they just started shoving him because they were frustrated.

Its A Game Of Football Everyone Does It Not Just The Steelers. All They Do During The Press Conferences Is Rip The Team They Are Playing Or The Team They Just Played. Also Before The First Game Of The Year The Jets Coach Already Knew What They Were Doing.

The most exciting game of the season and the closest the have probably came to actually losing was against the Eagles AT HOME. They only won the game by 3 points and they had an oppertunity to lose the game. The calls didn't go to Ravens way but still, you can't completly blame that, they are a 4-9 team with lack of offense with the loss of Ray Lewis (Ironicly, who is helping the Cleveland Browns to a 8-5 record and a very good chance at making the playoffs. It was a roll of the dice, but still, it must have taken some skill to get into that position.

Let me put it this way, the Patriots have gotten lucky this year, but still, they would have to have some sort of skill to get themselves into a situation which led to luck, that is a part of sports, there are good calls and bad calls and in the case of the Pats/Ravens game, it was just the referee saying that the call happened.

It is hard being a ref, trust me, I am one.

- Zach

Eh, I really don't want the Pats to win the superbowl. I'd rather have the Dolphins. (GO 0-13 TEAMS! YEAH!) But I really doubt that their even going to make it to the playoffs.. I'm a true Colts fan, before they won the superbowl. I REALLY want them to win again, the Colts have a fantastic team. And yes, I know it's amazing I actually understand football.
♥GGal

New England Patriots 48 Dallas Cowboys (12W-1L) 27


New England Patriots: Super Bowl Championships: 3:2001 (XXXVI), 2003 (XXXVIII), 2004 (XXXIX) Dallas Cowboys: Super Bowl Championships: 5:
1971 (VI), 1977 (XII), 1992 (XXVII), 1993 (XXVIII), 1995 (XXX)


Oh dear me...

The Cowboys became the first team in NFL history to win 3 Super Bowls in just 4 years (a feat that has been matched only once since, by the New England Patriots).

i believe it will be the Colts vs. Patriots

Its A Game Of Football Everyone Does It Not Just The Steelers. All They Do During The Press Conferences Is Rip The Team They Are Playing Or The Team They Just Played. Also Before The First Game Of The Year The Jets Coach Already Knew What They Were Doing.


Huh? Sorry, but I've watched quite a few of these confrences after the game, I've never seen them rip their oppenents.

Just wondering... why is every word in your sentence captalized?!

I really don't think it's luck that the Patriots are undefeated. It's a result of consistent effort and hard work :)

New England Patriots: Super Bowl Championships: 3:2001 (XXXVI), 2003 (XXXVIII), 2004 (XXXIX) Dallas Cowboys: Super Bowl Championships: 5:
1971 (VI), 1977 (XII), 1992 (XXVII), 1993 (XXVIII), 1995 (XXX)


Personally, I think its really difficult to start comparing different decades of teams, and feel it could potentially be a different topic to discuss. Growing up within the New England area I will always be a New England Patriots fans, especially after going 30 years without ever winning a superbowl championship (i.e. Team established 1972 didn't win first superbowl until 2001). Then having the Boston Red Sox going 86 years without a championship I think people can understand why our area will cherish these moments while we can.

One team you completely overlooked above was the Pittsburgh Steelers, especially back in the 70's. This team was probably even more dominant than the Dallas Cowboys or New England Patriots. Just view the superbowl's below through the 1970's. This team won 4 superbowls in 6 years which in NFL history no team has ever done, even if the New England Patriots win the superbowl this year it would be 4 superbowls in 7 years. The Pittsburgh Steelers have won 5 superbowls all together as a franchise:

Superbowls = 5
1974 (Super Bowl)
1975 (Super Bowl)
1978 (Super Bowl)
1979 (Super Bowl)
2005 (Super Bowl)

Although, I am a New England Patriots fan I think the Pittsburgh Steelers through the 1970's maybe the best team ever put together...You can also still argue the best team all time probably between the Pittsburgh Steelers and Dallas Cowboys:


PITTSBURGH STEELERS (SINCE 1945)
Superbowls = 5
Conference Championships = 6
Division Championships = 17
Playoff Appearences = 22

DALLAS COWBOWS (SINCE 1960)
Superbowls = 5
Conference Championships = 10
Division Championships = 18
Playoff Appearences = 28

I would probably give the edge for best all time franchise to the Dallas Cowboys, especislly since their conference, division and playoff appearences are higher....Also, Since they where not established until 1960 and have accomplished much more in a shorter period of time...

Then again, The initial start of this thread wasn't who is the best NFL team all time, most successful, etc it was about the patriots being unstoppable and what you think for this year :) The New England patriots have already won their division, clinched a first round bye, and are one win away from clinching home field advantage through the AFC playoffs. They will at least get two weeks off before their first playoff game since the patriots and colts will bet the 1-2 seed in the AFC. The question for Bill Belichick is does winning three superbowls (maybe more), the team's record over 6 years, and all the statistics they break this year enough for the history books and patriots legacy to sit out players the last two games? Or does he need one more entry into the history books for being another 16-0 team but risk playing all his starters these last few games instead of resting for the playoffs?

UPDATE 12/12/2007 2:07PM
Forgot another team here, The San Fransisco 49'ers with both Joe Montanna and Steve Young...They are another team with 5 superbowl victories spread out...

5 - 1981 (Super Bowl), 1984 (Super Bowl), 1988 (Super Bowl), 1989 (Super Bowl), 1994 (Super Bowl)

New England Patriots: Super Bowl Championships: 3:2001 (XXXVI), 2003 (XXXVIII), 2004 (XXXIX) Dallas Cowboys: Super Bowl Championships: 5:
1971 (VI), 1977 (XII), 1992 (XXVII), 1993 (XXVIII), 1995 (XXX)


Oh dear me...

Well thats a totally different topic. I think WDWTigger was pointing out they beat the cowboys. You said if they came across the cowboys they would not be undefeated

i believe it will be the Colts vs. Patriots

They are both AFC teams, it cant happen.

Its A Game Of Football Everyone Does It Not Just The Steelers. All They Do During The Press Conferences Is Rip The Team They Are Playing Or The Team They Just Played. Also Before The First Game Of The Year The Jets Coach Already Knew What They Were Doing. I'm not saying that their the only people who do it. I'm saying that's the reason why the Pats dissed them during the press conference.

Well thats a totally different topic. I think WDWTigger was pointing out they beat the cowboys. You said if they came across the cowboys they would not be undefeated



They are both AFC teams, it cant happen.

better be colts then lol i hate patriots

Steelers and Patriots no doubt. Patriots just annoy me, they can't be stopped and they think their so good. I cant wait till someone beats them.

the pats are unstoppable! what do you think?:xtongue:

I love the pats!(!!!) I think they're having an awesome season! And I totally hope that they'll go on to win the superbowl. :xcheesy: It's funny but now my brother, who used to be a colts fan, loves the pats too!

they diss everyone in the press conference not just the ravens

cowboys or pats, one of em will win the super bowl i bet

If you've watched the family guy partiot games episode: THat's what brady's like. He's just a loser. I'm a BEARS fan.
The bears actually MADE it to the Super bowl Pats were KO'd.
Bear down, Chicago Bears, make every play clear the way to victory;
Bear down, Chicago Bears, put up a fight with a might so fearlessly.
We'll never forget the way you thrilled the nation with your T-formation.
Bear down, Chicago Bears, and let them know why you're wearing the crown.
You're the pride and joy of Illinois, Chicago Bears, bear down.


:OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
REMEMBER.......
Super Bowl XX! 1985!
Utter domination and sweetness!
The REfrigerator, William Perry dives in for a T.D.!
Jim McMahon!
Mike Singletary!
DAn Hampton!
DOMINATION

Well, I actually hate the Pats, not just because they beat my team (Eagles), but because half of their fans came after they won three Super Bowls. However, I have nothing against Brady or Moss. They've won their three Super Bowls by field goals. That shows you how good they are against good teams. Not this season. They've even been beating good teams by a fair amount of points. The past years, I thought they were overrated. I don't think that now, but I still don't like them.

i dont like the patriots either
they cheated so who can trust them??
they aren't winners because winners never cheat and cheaters never win

I hope they end up 15-1.

I'd like to laugh at them if they did.

Third quarter. 31 to 13.
Watch out Steelers.
:xgrin:

Hmm. I have a feeling that they will be the next undefeated team since the Miami Dolphins.

Don't be ragging on my Steelers. They played a good game they just got outplayed. And Ravens What a way to blow an interseption. That hail Mary oh man should have been a touchdown. And the pats cheat by not releasing the injury report, against league rules..

I hope they end up 15-1.

I'd like to laugh at them if they did.

To the Dolphins. They still have one more game against them, right?

To the Dolphins. They still have one more game against them, right?

They are playing the New England Patriots next sunday right here in New England.

On another note, How does the Baltimore Ravens lose to the Miama Dolphins today in overtime? They played such a great game against the New England Patriots and the last two weeks after that game have done nothing but laid a big egg...They are horrible!

:6842: On another note, How does the Baltimore Ravens lose to the Miama Dolphins today in overtime? They played such a great game against the New England Patriots and the last two weeks after that game have done nothing but laid a big egg...They are horrible!
AIIIIIINCK!!! WRONG!!!! WOOT DOLPHINS WON THEIR FIRST GAME!!!!!!!!!

Back to topic. Yes because there were some close games in the past like the Colts game and such. All teams do have a weakness