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Destination
10-21-2007, 08:11 AM
I found some new concept art pictures that were leaked onto the web. But supposably they were only suppose to be for CM's but someone got hold of them and posted them on the web. Take a look! Credit goes to MasterGracey

Walt Disney Plaza/ New Entrance: overview
http://xs320.******/xs320/07420/newhub2.gif (http://******) http://xs320.******/xs320/07420/newhub3.gif (http://******) http://xs320.******/xs320/07420/newentrance3.gif (http://******)

Entrance and Turnstiles:
http://xs320.******/xs320/07420/newentrance.gif (http://******) http://xs320.******/xs320/07420/newentrance2.gif (http://******)

The New Hub:
http://xs320.******/xs320/07420/newhub.gif (http://******)

Entry Plaza Shops:
http://xs320.******/xs320/07420/newsotres.gif (http://******)

Ideas for a new Partners statue:
http://xs320.******/xs320/07420/Newpartners1.gif (http://******)

Inside the new Walt Disney Story:
http://xs320.******/xs320/07420/InsidenewDisneystory.gif (http://******)

The new Red Car Trollys:
http://xs320.******/xs320/07420/Redcar1.gif (http://******) http://xs320.******/xs320/07420/Redcar2.gif (http://******) http://xs320.******/xs320/07420/Redcar3.gif (http://******)

The route of the Red Car Trollys (Route goes from in front of current DCA entry locker/restroom area to the front of Tower of Terror):
http://xs320.******/xs320/07420/Redcarroute.gif (http://******)

CARS LAND
Overview:

http://xs320.******/xs320/07420/Carsland.png (http://******) http://xs320.******/xs320/07420/carslandairial.png (http://******)
http://xs320.******/xs320/07420/carslandmodel2.gif (http://******) http://xs320.******/xs320/07420/carslandmodel.gif (http://******)

Mater's Towing (ride):
http://xs320.******/xs320/07420/materstowings.gif (http://******)

Luigi's Tires (ride, looks very similar to old Tomorrowland Flying Saucers):
http://xs320.******/xs320/07420/LuigisSaucers.gif (http://******)

Radiator Springs Racers:
http://xs320.******/xs320/07420/radiatorsprings1.png (http://******) http://xs320.******/xs320/07420/radiatorsprings4.gif (http://******)
http://xs320.******/xs320/07420/radiatorsprings2.gif (http://******) http://xs320.******/xs320/07420/radiatorsprings3.gif (http://******)

Paradise Pier
http://xs320.******/xs320/07420/NewPier.png (http://******)

Toy Story Mania! / Midway Mania (look close! the marquee says "Toy Story Midway Mania"):
http://xs320.******/xs320/07420/MidwatMania.png (http://******)

Re-themed Games of the Boardwalk:
http://xs320.******/xs320/07420/newgames.png (http://******) http://xs320.******/xs320/07420/newgames2.png (http://******)

Goofy's Sky Skool / Mullholland Madness re-theme:
http://xs320.******/xs320/07420/Goffymadness.png (http://******)

Mickey Wheel / Sun Wheel re-theme:
http://xs320.******/xs320/07420/Sunwheel.png (http://******)

The Little Mermaid attraction:
Outside:
http://xs320.******/xs320/07420/TLMshowbuild.png (http://******)

Overview:
http://xs320.******/xs320/07420/TLMride.png (http://******)

Show scene:
http://xs320.******/xs320/07420/Tlmride2.png (http://******)

Disney's World of Color viewing area:
http://xs320.******/xs320/07420/WOCviewingareagif.png (http://******)

Inside the new DCA Preview Center:
http://xs320.******/xs320/07420/Previewcenter.png (http://******)


UPDATE: October 27, 2007

Red Trolly:
http://xs320.******/xs320/07430/trolley1.jpg (http://******) http://xs320.******/xs320/07430/trolley2.jpg (http://******)

Paradise Pier Logo (replacing the mickey mouse head):
http://xs320.******/xs320/07430/PP2.jpg (http://******)

Toy Story Mania/Midway Mania:
http://xs320.******/xs320/07430/dca2.jpg (http://******)

Little Mermaid:
http://xs320.******/xs320/07430/mermaid2.jpg (http://******) http://xs320.******/xs320/07430/mermaid1.jpg (http://******)

Carsland:
http://xs320.******/xs320/07430/hjgfhgf.jpg (http://******)http://xs320.******/xs320/07430/fgghgf.jpg (http://******) http://xs320.******/xs320/07430/cars1.jpg (http://******)

DCA Entrance:
http://xs320.******/xs320/07430/entry2.jpg (http://******) http://xs320.******/xs320/07430/entry1.jpg (http://******) http://xs320.******/xs320/07430/entry6.jpg (http://******) http://xs320.******/xs320/07430/mgmentry.jpg (http://******)(notice how similar they look like to the entrance in WDW)

Not sure what these are:
http://xs320.******/xs320/07430/entry5.jpg (http://******) http://xs320.******/xs320/07430/entry4.jpg (http://******) http://xs320.******/xs320/07430/entry3.jpg (http://******)

CONTINUED IN POST #2!

Well, I hope everybody enjoys the thread!

Destination
10-23-2007, 01:32 AM
CONTINUED FROM POST #1!

World Of Color Viewing Area:
http://xs320.******/xs320/07430/colorseating.jpg http://xs320.******/xs320/07430/colorseating2.jpg (http://******) http://xs320.******/xs320/07430/colorseating4-OCREG.jpg (http://******)

Articles:
http://xs320.******/xs320/07430/dcamap_199.jpg (http://******)
http://xs120.******/xs120/07430/33293852.jpg (http://******) (notice the stuff in that picture: Removing Mailiboomer, Re-themed Mickey's Fun Wheel, Luigi's Roamin' Tires levitating hovercraft ride, proposed third theme park)

November 20, 2007 Update!

Found some more pictures from articles over the internet! ;)


Luigi's Roamin' Tires:
http://xs221.******/xs221/07473/iouyiuoyuioy.jpg (http://******) http://xs221.******/xs221/07473/33663522.jpg (http://******)

Tow Mater's:
http://xs221.******/xs221/07473/33782928.jpg (http://******) http://xs221.******/xs221/07473/33782942.jpg (http://******)

Kitri
10-23-2007, 01:37 AM
Totally awesome! Thanks Dest! :u)

IceManFan
10-23-2007, 02:26 AM
oh my gosh, now i so wnat to go to DCA again

slinkyman
10-23-2007, 02:36 AM
That sure looks cool! Thanks for posting. :)

Here is some more info on The Little Mermaid Ride.


Will the great Little Mermaid dark ride finally come to Disneyland ?


http://bp0.blogger.com/_OO7WbmARD08/Ro7MCYDvq5I/AAAAAAAACEo/wf_54l_OJPc/s400/photo+16.jpg


A looong time ago, i.e at the opening of Disneyland Paris, back in 1992, when one bought a map of the park, you could see a Little Mermaid attraction in the Fantasyland area with these words "future attraction". Well, it was such a "future" attraction that it never opened, and probably will never will, at least in DLP.

But all is not lost as the idea to bring a Little Mermaid attraction at Disneyland, Anaheim is seriously in talks.

But before we talk about this, let me tell you more about the attraction itself.

First, this Little Mermaid attraction concept is a dark ride. I should say a GREAT dark ride, i mean as "dark" as Peter Pan's flight or Snow White can be, but much much better.

http://bp2.blogger.com/_OO7WbmARD08/Ro7MS4Dvq6I/AAAAAAAACEw/Ryv9D7RDQqI/s400/dlrpmermaid10.jpg

Then, the vehicles, designed like a shell, looks great, and will be hold by the top , just like Peter Pan's flight.

http://bp0.blogger.com/_OO7WbmARD08/Ro7MjYDvq7I/AAAAAAAACE4/Uahte_UDmz4/s400/dlrpmermaid12.jpg

Two , the ride will bring you under water AND over the water, and back again, thanks to the "dry for wet" WDI technology, a mix of lighting, lasers and smoke effects that give you the feeling you are under water, even if you're not really.

http://bp1.blogger.com/_OO7WbmARD08/Ro7NKoDvq9I/AAAAAAAACFI/ZEm-06qRzoA/s400/dlrpmermaid30.jpg

But the great design begin by the outside decor, with the Little Mermaid "castle", a wonderful theming - who would have been a great addition for DLP's Fantasyland in front of the Pizzeria Bella notte restaurant...

http://bp2.blogger.com/_OO7WbmARD08/Ro7Mx4Dvq8I/AAAAAAAACFA/buzEh_FhMf8/s400/dlrpmermaid16.jpg

The first scene will be over the water with the Little Mermaid meeting Eric for the first time.

http://bp3.blogger.com/_OO7WbmARD08/Ro7NeIDvq-I/AAAAAAAACFQ/fEbm4WVb6Iw/s400/dlrpmermaid09.jpg

Then, as you hear the Sebastien character singing "under the sea" the vehicle will "dive" under water for a great "under the sea" concert scene, obviously full of audio-animatronics...

http://bp2.blogger.com/_OO7WbmARD08/Ro7Nr4Dvq_I/AAAAAAAACFY/Mf5zWW5c3Gw/s400/dlrpmermaid21.jpg

http://bp0.blogger.com/_OO7WbmARD08/Ro7PHYDvrCI/AAAAAAAACFw/-zkGQVcYgpw/s400/dlrpmermaid04.jpg


We will find back Ariel - the Little Mermaid - in her grotto, before entering in Ursula's threatening cave , the famous scene where she try to get Ariel's voice.

Some rotating circles effect will give you a kind of vertigo illusion when you will enter the cave...

http://bp2.blogger.com/_OO7WbmARD08/Ro7N74DvrAI/AAAAAAAACFg/iM1UKsCXO7s/s400/dlrpmermaid22.jpg

http://bp1.blogger.com/_OO7WbmARD08/Ro7OboDvrBI/AAAAAAAACFo/LRzZRcbaqJU/s400/dlrpmermaid28.jpg

The next sequence "kiss the girl" will be right after this one, but although it can look peaceful, Ursula's marine eels will be there to remember us that something dramatic is on its way to happen, as the creatures will try to stop the first kiss between Ariel and Eric...

And, as the vehicle will come "out" of the water again, we will discover that the surface of the sea is now under a frightening storm. The "giant" Ursula is there, soon to be defeated, just like in the movie. A really powerful scene in terms of sound and lighting effects...

http://bp3.blogger.com/_OO7WbmARD08/Ro7PvIDvrEI/AAAAAAAACGA/3Y3XoEhQrgw/s400/photo+16.jpg

The last scene will show Ariel and Eric living happily, a usual end for this kind of fairy tale.

http://bp1.blogger.com/_OO7WbmARD08/Ro7PToDvrDI/AAAAAAAACF4/NYwE9HOgtwo/s400/dlrpmermaid25.jpg

Looks like a great dark ride, doesn't it? Now, why was it never built at DLP? Well, back in 1993, when the park desperately needs some additions, the main problem of the park was to increase the capacity of the park. And they needed more than one attraction to do so. That's why they opened the Indy's temple du péril, Story book land, Casey Jr's train and Les mystères du Nautilus in the next two years. Then came Space Mountain, and once all of this was done....no more money was left to built this Little Mermaid dark ride!

For many years, i thought that we will never see it built, that the project was dead, at least for DLP. Then one month ago, at the opening of the Finding Nemo's submarine voyage at Disneyland, Ed Grier in an interview to a web site cited "...his personal favorite as The Little Mermaid... "The Little Mermaid continues to be a Disney classic," he said during a roundtable talk at Main Street's Opera House, noting that the animated version of the Hans Christian Andersen story has been adapted for Broadway. "Imagineer Tony Baxter has done great work on a Little Mermaid-based attraction. Have we officially drawn plans up? No, we haven't. But I think we can one day."
Mind you, this doesn't mean that a definitive decision has been done to bring the Little Mermaid attraction for sure at Disneyland. So don't get too excited right now.
But the good news is that legendary imagineer Tony Baxter was recently named as the Imagineer in charge of Disneyland - to supervise Disneyland's development. And, as the Little Mermaid project was created by Tony Baxter AND that it is a great dark ride project, my feeling is that it's time again to cross our fingers and hope that Ed Grier will make the right choice between eventual different concept around the same theme.

Those of you who bought the Platinum edition of the Little Mermaid dvd last year may have seen the special feature about this attraction project - the images you've seen on this article are screen capture done by the very good dlrp.fr web site - you will find a direct access link to it in our "links" section on the right.
In that special feature it was possible to see a video of a "virtual creation" of the ride, and it's time for you now, to have a better look below to this Little Mermaid attraction concept. You won't get any closer to it until its eventual creation at Disneyland.

Photos and video: copyright Disney.

I would post a great Ride Through video but VMKF doesn't allow the site.

TheFireworkZach
10-23-2007, 02:48 AM
Just wait, it takes a long time for them to load. This looks really nice and for all of those people that said that it is going to be a cheap renovation, ain't looking so cheap anymore, isn't it.

I really like how they are going to make Paradise Pier a little better and how they are really going to redo the front entry area as that looks pretty cheap when you think about it. I am also glad they aren't going to redo some of the nice areas of the park like Hollywood Pictures Backlot and the area around GRR.

- Zach

Destination
10-23-2007, 02:59 AM
Wow! Thanks for the pictures slinkyman! Looks interesting. May I ask where you got those from though? ;)

Jacques
10-23-2007, 07:29 AM
I'm sad.

They didn't learn from the failure of the Midway area. Here they want to capture more of Walt's "Vision" via the entryway, and yet they refuse to remove the carnival from the back of the park. Still goes against what Walt's "Vision" actually stood for.

And instead of making the entryway "Main Street South", how about retheming the entire park? You don't see a "Main Street" outside of any of the other Magic Kingdom Parks.

Still seems to me to be a facelift on an aged concept.

gatechgal
10-23-2007, 06:09 PM
I'm sad.

They didn't learn from the failure of the Midway area. Here they want to capture more of Walt's "Vision" via the entryway, and yet they refuse to remove the carnival from the back of the park. Still goes against what Walt's "Vision" actually stood for.

And instead of making the entryway "Main Street South", how about retheming the entire park? You don't see a "Main Street" outside of any of the other Magic Kingdom Parks.

Still seems to me to be a facelift on an aged concept.

The Main Street in the Magic Kingdom will be representative of Marcelene, MO around the turn of the Centurey. The new concept for DCA will be Walt Disney's California Adventure. So they are themeing it to what California was like for Walt thus the 1920's Art Deco look that was very prevalant when Walt first came to Hollywood. Main Street South is Hollywood (remember the Red Car Trolly from Roger Rabbit? It really existed) And pier type amusement parks (like "The Pike" in Long Beach) were one of the reasons that Walt built Disneyland. That those carnival type games fit as well. The Cars themeing is a bit of a stretch, but not a great one if they are going for sort of a "Route 66" type thing. It's Californiais too. Now for the partner's statue, I'd like more of a vintage Mickey than the one in the concept art. If Walt is going to be younger then Mickey should be as well.

DarthRobbie
10-23-2007, 06:41 PM
They didn't learn from the failure of the Midway area. Here they want to capture more of Walt's "Vision" via the entryway, and yet they refuse to remove the carnival from the back of the park. Still goes against what Walt's "Vision" actually stood for.

And instead of making the entryway "Main Street South", how about retheming the entire park? You don't see a "Main Street" outside of any of the other Magic Kingdom Parks.

Still seems to me to be a facelift on an aged concept.

Jacques;

In reading books about Walt, he was never against the "Midway" just the shabbiness that was common to many aging places. Being from California I am familiar with some great fun spot like Pacific Ocean Park and the Santa Monica Pier. If the park is indeed going to still be DCA then the midway is appropriate. How many are aware of the short lived "Circus Land" when Disneyland first opened?

DR

GreatGatsby
10-24-2007, 12:06 AM
Jacques;

In reading books about Walt, he was never against the "Midway" just the shabbiness that was common to many aging places. Being from California I am familiar with some great fun spot like Pacific Ocean Park and the Santa Monica Pier. If the park is indeed going to still be DCA then the midway is appropriate. How many are aware of the short lived "Circus Land" when Disneyland first opened?

DRI beg to differ. On several fronts. Jacques is more correct on this.

Walt did indeed disdain the whole midway concept. Claiming that these poorly run amusement parks is the reason Walt created Disneyland, as gatechgal says, is essential correct, but not the way gatechgal suggests.

Walt created Disneyland because of The Pike and the Griffith Park amusement areas, but not to emulate. He was so disappointed in them - their lack of imagination, their shoddy appearances, their dangerous rides, their poor maintenance - that he determined to create a park that entire families could safely enjoy together, something that was not true in those types are parks. Not his exact quote, as I don't have the time or inclination to search for it, but that is the essence.

Bear in mind he often said he realized this sitting on a bench watching his daughters ride a kiddie ride he could not share with them.

That is exactly why Walt went to great lengths to call Disneyland a "theme park" and not an "amusement park." It was his complete dislike of The Pike and its ilk that made him decide to take the chance and make something far superior.

I put it to those who have fond memories of The Pike, Coney Island, The Santa Monica Pier (in the old days) and such that the trap of nostalgia has clouded over the fact that those places were actually squalid, ugly, filthy rat nests. Paradise Pier is a cleaned up version, but Walt would be livid if he knew that the company was putting in mail-order amusement park rides in their theme parks.

Finally, the bringing up of Circusland is a non-sequiter. A circus is not a carnival, and Circusland - in its temporary existance - had no rides, was never intended to have rides, and would not have rides, as true circuses simply don't.

The only time anything even remotely associated with the Paradise Pier type off-the-shelf rides were shown in conjunction with Disneyland during Walt's life was the now-famous luminous aerial view painted only to sell shares to investors, and that was done as a short-cut.

My first thought about Paradise Pier, on a preview night of DCA (and I remember this verbatim), was that Walt was truly gone because they built the very thing he hated in his own parking lot.

coolJamz
10-24-2007, 12:16 AM
This is a lame question... but only because i lack good memory...

whats DCA?

Destination
10-24-2007, 01:20 AM
DCA stands for Disney's California Adventure. It is the other disney amusement park right across from Disneyland.

What about this? Do you think that people would be more happy if they just connected DCA and Disneyland together? Like it was just one big park and you enter from the sides? That would be cool. But, do you think they could do that and people would like it?

PezDude
10-24-2007, 03:14 AM
0_0 I say that Little Mermaid ride will scare children... OMG! GIANT HEAD AHHHHHH! MOMMY!

Dream.Fairy
10-24-2007, 03:32 AM
they are not adding all of those

Jacques
10-24-2007, 05:25 AM
The Main Street in the Magic Kingdom will be representative of Marcelene, MO around the turn of the Centurey. The new concept for DCA will be Walt Disney's California Adventure. So they are themeing it to what California was like for Walt thus the 1920's Art Deco look that was very prevalant when Walt first came to Hollywood.

Oh, I'm well aware of the Hollywood version of Main Street, but it's still a Main Street to me. Guess I'm just not sold on the facelift.

Jacques;

In reading books about Walt, he was never against the "Midway" just the shabbiness that was common to many aging places. Being from California I am familiar with some great fun spot like Pacific Ocean Park and the Santa Monica Pier. If the park is indeed going to still be DCA then the midway is appropriate. How many are aware of the short lived "Circus Land" when Disneyland first opened?

DR

GG basically responded as I would have, so I won't address the same issue. But as for your "Circus Land" mention, let me just say that a better example would have been the Park's "State Fair" promotion. It was much closer to all that is un-Walt about DCA, and I believe the promotion was not well received.

they are not adding all of those

Not adding all of those what?

GreatGatsby
10-24-2007, 06:42 AM
But as for your "Circus Land" mention, let me just say that a better example would have been the Park's "State Fair" promotion. It was much closer to all that is un-Walt about DCA, and I believe the promotion was not well received.AND it was post-Walt as well, and I believe one of the first Eisner changes.

Jacques
10-24-2007, 06:48 AM
I heard that people in Marketing were fired or demoted after that promotion. Any truth to that?

I miss the promotions of the past. They were an interesting diversion, and a reason for locals to continue visiting. Blast to the Past was my first, and I fondly recall seeing The Tokens and Jan & Dean playing at Tomorrowland Terrace. I would go more often if they did promotions like this again.

Year of a Million Dreams just doesn't cut it.

Etrain4242
10-24-2007, 06:58 AM
I don't really think Disney would create an entire land dedicated to one movie (ie. the cars example). However I can see A version of the radiator springs racers going somewhere in California. Maybe something along the lines of epcots test track. interesting pictures though.

Destination
10-24-2007, 07:03 AM
I don't really think Disney would create an entire land dedicated to one movie (ie. the cars example). However I can see A version of the radiator springs racers going somewhere in California. Maybe something along the lines of epcots test track. interesting pictures though.

its not a rumor or anything. There actually gonna be a Cars Land. so they will create and entire land to one movie. But I think they would do that for others movies too

Jacques
10-24-2007, 07:04 AM
I don't really think Disney would create an entire land dedicated to one movie (ie. the cars example). However I can see A version of the radiator springs racers going somewhere in California. Maybe something along the lines of epcots test track. interesting pictures though.

Been to Toontown?

Etrain4242
10-24-2007, 07:10 AM
oh wow i didn't know they were actually making a carsland and it wasn't a rumor. should be interesting to see what it turns out to be.

Been to Toontown?

haha yeah i have been to toontown. Just seems like Disney doesn't put too much of one thing in one park, and cars land seems like more of an adventurous part for the entire family. Rather then toontown which is more of kid oriented and less entire family oriented.

Jacques
10-24-2007, 04:53 PM
What I was alluding to is that Toontown is based off one movie, Who Framed Roger Rabbit. Sure the neighborhood end is a new creation, but the downtown portion is pretty accurate to the film. I think they could make a Cars land about that same size and get away with it.

NOTE: This is in no way my endorsement of a Cars land. This "creating rides from movies" idea is not what Disney is all about. Outside of Fantasyland, very few of Walt's attractions had movie tie-ins, and the ones that did were pretty loosely based on the movies (Matterhorn, Jungle Cruise, etc.)

Disney needs to get back to the idea of ideas. Not everything has to have a "summer blockbuster" to help its marketing (re: Haunted Mansion). I wish they would create something unique. I've seen Cars. I don't need to see it in real life.

SweepHunter
10-24-2007, 05:15 PM
Bugs Land was from the one movie Bugs. It will take 5 years to complete and there will be a Disney Vacation Club addition to the Grand Californian which are hotel rooms. Maliboomer is history. California Dreams with Whoopie Goldberg is gone and Ariel will be built there. The Mulhullond drive mad mouse is being geared toward Goofy.

The winery will not be leaving and nothing new will be added to the rapids or Soarin. CMs who were very important went to a long presentation on the DCA changes. All others could watch it on monitors.

The golden gate bridge will be yanked out an the monorail will be hidden like a california bridge overpass, very subtle. The front is moved out about 15 feet. Toy Story is already under construction.

It is too bad the money was not used to remodel Disneyland and other stuff first.

Manchester United
10-24-2007, 10:15 PM
Toy Story Mania.. i like the sound of that!

Destination
10-24-2007, 11:25 PM
So since in post 25 it said Maliboomer was history, does that mean it's already closed down? Why would they even take it down? They cant really fit a ride in that small area. And it was a good ride when I went on it. But I think they should leave it. But one rumor I heard was that they were gonna maybe keep it and make it like a Toy Soldier theme from Toy Story, and it would fit well with the new Toy Story Mania being built.

snowegoof
10-25-2007, 01:57 AM
:thahggeek27fz:




They can't change the PARTNERS STATUE!!!


I liked the old park, I don't want them to change it!! :bawling:


Seriously, they are ruining Disney. If they change that statue, I will never go to Diney again, I swear.

Jacques
10-25-2007, 04:43 AM
They can't change the PARTNERS STATUE!!!

They're not changing the statue in Disneyland. They are adding one to DCA. At least that's how I understand it.

snowegoof
10-25-2007, 04:57 AM
Oh, well that's a relief. But Still, the statue was meant only for the magic kingdom!

IceManFan
10-25-2007, 05:01 AM
I like hiw they are doing cars but what is up with the tow mater ride? i don't get the concept of it

Destination
10-25-2007, 05:27 AM
Hold on I have a picture of a ride like the Mater's Towing ride, there's a ride like it in Disneyland Paris I believe.

http://xs220.******/xs220/07434/cars.jpg (http://******)

you just like sit in the cars and then they spin around other cars going around in circles Ill try to get an ariel view of the ride

http://xs220.******/xs220/07434/cars_race_rally.jpg (http://******)

there is an ariel view sort of but as a drawing.

Jacques
10-25-2007, 05:37 AM
So, the Mater ride is the same as the Ladybug Boogie ride in Bug's Land?

Are they that out of ideas?!

Destination
10-25-2007, 05:38 AM
I guess so......

I hope they make that Cars version of the tomorrowland Flying Saucers, boy wont that be long lines...........

GreatGatsby
10-26-2007, 05:07 PM
So, the Mater ride is the same as the Ladybug Boogie ride in Bug's Land?

Are they that out of ideas?!I just returned from Disneyland Paris and have been planning a report for the site (but I've been distracted by other issues). One of the things I planned to talk about was the Cars ride at Walt Disney Studios in Paris, and the fact that it is indeed the same as the Ladybug Boogie ride. They built up quite a big deal out there about this ride (called the Cars Quatre Roues Rallye, or "Cars Four Wheel Rally" in English), when all it turned out to be was 12 or so little vehicles, dressed up as Cars characters, turning and circling around each other. Very much a "kiddie" ride.

In truth, they spent more on the line than the ride itself.

Are they that out of ideas? Jacques is asking this? Must be sarcasm. He knows very well that's been a major complaint of Disney fans for over a decade.

(I'll put together my DLP report - complete with photos - soon.)

NaviMap
10-26-2007, 10:00 PM
With these new plans, they are a good direction for a park that totally started off on the wrong foot. Something though is tugging in the back of my mind thinking this is more of "fixing up a bad idea." I hope there are more plans to transform the entire experience one currently would feel when entering DCA. DCA not only needs new rides and experiences, but a major retheming down to the details to create that immersive Disney Park experience that "takes you away" from the real world.

I do adore the concept of bringing a piece of Southern California's past of having trolley cars resemble the Pacific Electric Railway (my favorite part from researching LA History, a past where cars & traffic actually didn't dominate the Los Angeles Area). An immersive theming of Los Angeles' past would be sooo much better than cheesy 'tourist trap' signs and collision of cheap renditions different architectural styles accentuated by music tracks that build upon the cheesy feel that I don't experience at Disneyland Park.

The only thing that worries me about the entrance plaza (I'm just being a little picky though) is the choice and style for the new entrance gates. The late-Art Deco style would work as it does with Disney MGM Studios in Florida but not when it shares the same Esplanade with greatest Disney Park of them all. Something more subtle would better fit the Esplanade and put more visual focus on the Carthay theater replica and not be a complete (and somewhat flashy) contrast to Disneyland Park's entrance gates. The theming and ambiance entrance area does play an important part in that it establishes the tone of what guests will expect and experience. I hope they do this section first.

One thing that I found interesting is the 'berm' in Carsland on how they might hide the high voltage power lines that run along the southern border of the park. California Screamin' does a decent job of hiding those power lines from most angles, though you can still easily those lines, the Hilton, and the Convention Center from the area around Golden Zephr.

Destination
10-28-2007, 05:48 AM
BUMP!

I added more pictures to post 1. Look for the UDPATE: October 27, 2007. and the pictures beyond that are what I added. I also had more pictures but I filled up the picture limit in the first post so I continued it down in the #3 post. Hope you enjoy!

GreatGatsby
10-28-2007, 08:54 AM
With these new plans, they are a good direction for a park that totally started off on the wrong foot. Something though is tugging in the back of my mind thinking this is more of "fixing up a bad idea." I hope there are more plans to transform the entire experience one currently would feel when entering DCA. DCA not only needs new rides and experiences, but a major retheming down to the details to create that immersive Disney Park experience that "takes you away" from the real world.I find myself agreeing with much of what NaviMap says, and this part especially.

When talk of fixing DCA first began to be bandied about, I was heartened at the news that Imagineering had dusted off the Westcot plans and were looking at if there was a way to retrofit them. Apparently the damage was done, though, and short of demolishing DCA and starting fresh, nothing could be done.

Given that they are spending more on this facelift then was spent on the park in the first place, my thought now is - yeah! DO demolish the thing and make Westcot after all. There is next to nothing currently in that park worth saving at all, with the possible exception of Soarin' Over California (which you guys were nice enough to copy in WDW to save a few $$ instead of creating something new . . .).

But alas, as NaviMap and Jacques state, one way or another, this refurbishment looks to be much ado about nothing.

groovysqirrel
10-28-2007, 10:05 PM
The Little Mermaid ride looks extremely similar to Peter Pan's Flight. The vehicles shown in the pictures look close to the ships that carry you through Pan. And in one picture, you can see something that looks like a suspeneded track above a ride vehicle.

As for the Goofy's Flight Skool, that looks great! Mulholland Madness was a cheap, un-themed (yes, i'll count that as a word) ride.

If they still call it California Adventure, it seems kind of odd to me. The new park looks very Pixar/old time cartoon-ish. We'll see what happens to that.

- Groovy S.

Destination
11-21-2007, 03:17 AM
BUMP!

I have an update with a couple of pictures added for 2 of the cars rides. Check in post #2! ;)

Chirpin
11-22-2007, 10:33 PM
I wonder if they are keeping the name
Disney's California Adventure

i heard two otehr names and they are
Disney's Great Adventure
and Disney's Pixar Adventure

i doubt any of those are true but those are what i heard

TheFireworkZach
11-22-2007, 10:38 PM
I think Disney's Great Adventure or Disney's Adventure Studios would be two good names. I just don't like Pixar being used as a name as it is just a small part of Disney (It would be like calling a park Playtoon Disney's Adventure or whatever the kids thing is called.

Anyways, I like Disney's Great Adventure most.

- Zach

Destination
11-23-2007, 03:55 AM
I heard one name and saw a logo that said Walt Disney's California Adventure

Something like that

AlohaLiilo
11-23-2007, 05:21 AM
I don't like the idea of a pixar themed park, it's not AUTHENTIC Disney!! I wish they would put in some more creative rides, like the way the Matterhorn is a full bobsled experience-- as opposed to those plastic bumper cars with a face on them.

LaurenThePrincess
01-03-2008, 12:44 AM
awesome! these pics are cool and i am on my ps3 so they are in hd! i am sad bc they are taking out the maliboomer

DanaAirFairy
01-03-2008, 12:52 AM
Okay im a little confused which is going to WDW and which to DLR . So DLR : ariel , cars land.. WDW :new entrance place? Idk i sort of like the orignal one its been the same since my moms been going there as a college student doesn't seem that right to change classic mainstreet , okay for MGM i was aware of the whole pixar toy story thing being put in...

Destination
01-03-2008, 04:46 AM
No, nothing is WDW is getting changed in this big plan. The only thing being changed the the name. For MGM. I put the picture of that enturance because that is the entrance in WDW, and they're going to try to build that same entrance for DCA. I put the picture of WDW's so you can get a better idea.

manunderwater
01-11-2008, 05:14 AM
SUNSHINE PLAZA / WALT DISNEY PLAZA
Overall Project: Retheming of Sunshine Plaza into Walt Disney Plaza. New park icon, the Carthay Circle Theatre, featuring The Walt Disney Story attraction, Red Car Trolley transportation system, and various shops and restaurants.
Project Status: To Begin Fall 2009
Open Date: Spring 2011

Carthay Theatre / Walt Disney Story
Project Status: To Begin Fall 2009
Open Date: Spring 2011

Red Car Trolley transportation system
Project Status: To begin Fall 2009
Open Date: Spring 2011

New facades, shops and dining
Details: A new Main Street-esque street will house new shops and dining, replacing the tile murals, restrooms, lockers, and Guest Services/AP Processing buildings. The new shop facades will feature nods to Walt Disney's rich life history on shop windows, including "Elias & Co. Dept. Store" and "Oswald’s Gas & Oil." For more information, see this post.
Project Status: To begin Fall 2009
Open Date: Spring 2011


HOLLYWOOD PICTURES BACKLOT
Overall Project: Utilizing Stage 17 as temporary entrance into theme park. Retheming of Hollywood Blvd, including facade enhancements and addition of Red Car Trolley route.
Project Status: To begin 2010
Open Date: Unknown

Stage 17 Temporary Entrance
Project Status: Unclear, possibly to begin 2008
Open Date: By Fall 2009

Hollywood Blvd placemaking and Red Car Trolley
Project Status: Unknown
Open Date: Unknown

Mickey's PhilharMagic/Muppet*Vision 3D replacement/Flex-Theatre
Project Status: Mickey's PhilharMagic plan on indefinite hold, other ideas now planned for building. Construction to begin 2010.
Open Date: Unknown


PARADISE PIER
Overall Project: Retheming of Pier to Victorian-era theme. Addition of Toy Story Midway Mania attraction. Retheming of Games of the Boardwalk, Mullholland Madness, Sun Wheel. Removal of Maliboomer, Pizza Oom Mow Mow, Burger Invasion, Golden Dreams. Addition of "Something non-G that you drink" Garden, themed shops, and Voyage of the Little Mermaid & Mermaid Grotto.
Project Status: In Progress
Project Completion/Soft Open: First phase April 2008
Open Date: July 2008

Toy Story Midway Mania, Games of the Boardwalk re-theme.Project Status: In progress.
Soft Open: April 2008
Open Date: July 2008

Sun Wheel/Mickey's Fun Wheel re-theme
Project Status: To begin 2008
Open Date: Late 2008

Maliboomer removal
Project Status: To begin 2009
Project Completion: Late 2009

Removal of Pizza Oom Mow Mow and Burger Invasion, addition of "something non-G that you can drink" Garden. Mullholland Madness re-theme, Orange Stinger re-theme
Project Status: To begin late 2009
Open Date: Unknown. By 2012

Voyage of the Little Mermaid and Mermaid Lagoon (Includes Removal of Golden Dreams)
Project Status: To begin early 2009
Open Date: Spring/Summer 2011

Disney's World of Color and Outdoor Ampitheatre
Project Status: To begin 2008
Open Date: Early spring 2010

Ariel's Grotto Restaurant - Outdoor Seating Enclosure
Project Status: To begin early 2009
Open Date: Late 2009


GOLDEN STATE

Expansion Preview Center
Project Status: No Longer located in Golden State. Location possibly moved outside of park gates.
Open Date: Unknown. Possibly Late 2008 or 2009

Condor Flats retheme
Project Status: Unknown
Open Date: Unknown


CARS LAND
Overall Project: Utilizing 12 acres of the Timon Parking Lot, this is new land will feature three new attractions, and a major dining complex themed to
Disney-Pixar's Cars
Project Status: To begins June 2008
Open Date: 2012

Radiator Springs Racers
Project Status: To begin 2008
Open Date: By 2012

Tow Mater's Junkyard Jamboree
Project Status: To begin 2008
Open Date: By 2012

Luigi's Roamin' Tires
Project Status: To begin 2008
Open Date: By 2012

Cars Land Drive-In Restaurant
Project Status: On indefinite hold.
Open Date: Unknown

Neoteny
01-12-2008, 01:29 AM
So they're not getting rid of A Bug's Land, right?

Destination
01-12-2008, 02:57 AM
I dont think so. A Bug's Land is like the kiddie land for kids. I think it's kinda like Toon Town but except in DCA and all about the movie A Bug's Life.