I personally don't think it's a good idea because some people worked hard for those items, but i would like to hear what you have to say about it :D

i say no these were becoming very rare and now there selling them

No -_-
I just don't think it's fair they put them so cheap.

No -_-
I just don't think it's fair they put them so cheap.

Uh, wasn't the green flip 500 credits when it first came out?

they are twice that now, not cheap i think

Yea it was 500 credits, well I think they should becuase not everyone was inthe game and some items just go away becuase people either are banned or quit or sell it so alot of times it's for the best!

I think its good. So what if you worked "hard" for it. I work in the garden and cleaning machinery and all that razz to get payed. Do you do that to get a flip hat. I do it so I can get what I want.

I drive boats and test rides, i do it becuase im board but I get paid a plus side. It's fun also but also it's real life it's not a virtual game like VMK. Is it really that hard to go into the trades forum and find a thread that is trading items for credits, credits can be won so easyly!

this may sound sad to most ppl. it gives them a chance to get it. heaven knows. they could take it back and never release it again

Like someone else said..
Flip hat was released after a hurricane(Wilma?) and most ppl might have had they're power OUT.
So, the unfortunate (like ME) are now fortunate they get to buy it.
END OF DISCUSSION!

1. Its just a game not the end of the world
2. Ok so what there will be more items that will become rare it takes time
3. Shouldnt you be getting ready for school
4. Read a book or go play outside
5. And it will become rare after a few years

In my opinion, all good things must come to an end. The rarity of these items are bound to fluctuate whether through re-releasing or not.
They'll be rare again in the future.
VMK isn't supposed to be all about trading, so why do people have to make such big deals out of things being released?
After all, did Yavn not say Baseball item(s) would be released again?
May not be what was expected, but it does have the word baseball in its name. (Baseball Cap Reversed)

Surfing isn't your cup o' tea? Then how about some baseball? Just in case you missed them last year, America's pastime returns to VMK, with hat, shirt, pants and shoes – and a stadium room batting clean up! Look for all these items in our VMK shops before September.
That was taken directly from the newsletter.
:)

as said before. people worked hard to get these items and now their gonna be sellingit. i understand the more recent players want items during beta or rare stuff but your gonna have to work for it. no ones gonnabe handing you a stitch hat on a sliver platter.

After all, did Yavn not say Baseball item(s) would be released again?
May not be what was expected, but it does have the word baseball in its name. (Baseball Cap Reversed)


That was taken directly from the newsletter.
:)

Uh.. I dont think he was referring to the flip hat... it doesn't go with the baseball out fit, and it says " In case u missed it from last year " i was told flip hat was released in BETA, not last year.

~Blue~

Uh.. I dont think he was referring to the flip hat... it doesn't go with the baseball out fit, and it says " In case u missed it from last year " i was told flip hat was released in BETA, not last year.

~Blue~

He said baseball, my point was that baseball is in the title.
He could have been trying to make it an unexpecting thing.

Also, flip hat was not released in Beta.
It was released the fall of '05.
May not have been last year, but he still did say baseball.

I think it is nice to release things a second time for people to get a second chance and to renew the games supply of that item

He said baseball, my point was that baseball is in the title.
He could have been trying to make it an unexpecting thing.

Also, flip hat was not released in Beta.
It was released the fall of '05.
May not have been last year, but he still did say baseball.

Thats what I believe, I think thats what he meant.

No, actually, Flip Hat was released the first week of VMK, on backwards day. It wasn't realeased again. Until now >_<

I don't think it's a good idea because some *cough most cough* of us gave everything they had for it...

All the stuff is coming back out to VMK because they are like practilly starting all over again except everyone will still have their stuff! The only items that should not come back out are stitch Bird and Inferno cause they were never sold in VMK!

i think vmk should make some sort of vip items for ppl who were on longer bc alot of people have worked hard for items and traded everything

no i think its a challenge to get the stuff and i like challenges!

i think vmk should make some sort of vip items for ppl who were on longer bc alot of people have worked hard for items and traded everything

But then it would discorage the new players.

In my opinion, all good things must come to an end. The rarity of these items are bound to fluctuate whether through re-releasing or not.
VMK isn't supposed to be all about trading, so why do people have to make such big deals out of things being released? :)

Let's hope you feel the same after trading that Sparrow hat for the Minnie hat if that comes out this month.

But then it would discorage the new players.

Well we would not want a new person inspired to achieve higher. I have an idea, in Saturday morning soccer games lets stop keeping score and awarding the winners since the losing team will feel bad,(oh yea they do this is many places). Maybe in schools so no child is left behind we should just lower the test score requirements, so that kid that really needed the extra help, instead feels better about passing a lesser job. Oh and let's stop rewarding kids for doing great things in school/class too. It makes the others that did not get an award unhappy.

I am in the camp that some re-releases on occasion are good. I support periodic re-releases. It seems to strike a good balance between making items available but not so available that you don't have to work at all for them.

Well I'm kinda 50/50

It's nice cause some of us don't have a flip hat (and I have no chance of getting some, No way i'm trading my magic :P) ... but at the same time the stupid guests are acting all "Cool" and now when you have a flip hat, you aren't really considered rich anymore, which doesn't really make me happy that I got one...

So I sort of wish that when the re-released it, they put it on sale for like 10,000 and only for like 1 day, so the poor people don't have enough time to get money and buy it... LOL

Sorry for the people who worked really hard for the flip hat but don't take it too hard it's just a game -_-

(But I think i'm just saying this cause it's not meh. Who knows what I'll do if I actually gave away my teleport, snowman, and bat for flip?)
(But I dont trade unless I have copies LOL)
(LOL that's why I don't trade much, because I know there's another way... aka winning it in games. LOL)

And EGAD minnie is coming out... I know how much people trade for THAT... AH!!! there's gonna be anger in vmk everywhere... so I'll hide in my room :P
(gonna set that room in myself only cause some of my friends Have minnie.)

Or, another happy rule would be for this new stuff, that only the people who've been here more than 1 year can buy it? LOL that way the newbies have no chance...

(OH GOODNESS VMK PLEASE DON'T BRING BACK OUT BIRD. ALL MEH FRIENDS HAVE ONE AND THEY'RE GONNA START DOING STUFF YOU NEVER IMAGINED.)

I'm sort of happy the baseball is coming back, because I need more bases, and I missed the red baseball hat...

1. Its just a game not the end of the world
2. Ok so what there will be more items that will become rare it takes time
3. Shouldnt you be getting ready for school
4. Read a book or go play outside
5. And it will become rare after a few years


Exactly how I feel about this whole scenario.

yes release the items but a different color to make both parties happy! :)

gosh will people stop posting these threads!!??
its done with!
no amount of talking about it will stop the staff from doing whatever there doing next!

-_-!!!!!!!!!!

I think it's kinda funny when people say they worked hard for the items they got like the green backwards cap, because it first of all, it is not real, and secondly while you may have spent real time to play the games needed to earn the credits for the hat, it did not require hard physical labor, just staring into a computer screen for a couple hours.

I like that they are bringing the clothing and hats back. Now the poor guests who don't know as much about VMK's clothing history will stop begging for my princess dress, etc. because they have access to their own.

im pretty much in the middle of this
i think its ok that they brought it back
but i think it throws off the balance of trading .
i also think that since they brought it back.. they should have made the re released items at a higher price.

No, actually, Flip Hat was released the first week of VMK, on backwards day. It wasn't realeased again. Until now >_<

I don't think it's a good idea because some *cough most cough* of us gave everything they had for it...

Let the Wiki (http://www.disneysonlineworlds.com/index.php/Hats)speak:

Baseball Cap Reversed X/D500 (2005)

S/D1000 (2007)
Emporium This green hat is also known as the "backwards Trucker cap" or the "green flip hat".
Released: 25 November 2005
Retired: 27 November 2005
Re-released:10 August 2007

It was released in fall.


(OH GOODNESS VMK PLEASE DON'T BRING BACK OUT BIRD.

Seagull's Nest Hat (a.k.a Bird Hat) has and is being released at this very moment. They are being sold online and in the parks as part of the Pirate Pin Set Series. Bird hat is one of the random VMK prizes.

I feel fine about VMK releasing these things, but they leave them sitting for too long, the crown is probably the second most worthless thing in VMK.

They should just release everything to stop all the complaining. Then if they did everyone would complain because there's no fun because they wouldn't need to really trade for anything. People never seem to be happy huh? :rolleyes:

I think that it's a good thing. Nobody HAD to trade for anything, so if people keep quitting over flip hats, then I think they need to stop being selfish and think of other people who could never afford one. It still is quite a price for some people to reach, at least it wasn't 500 credits. I don't understand why people care so much about VIRTUAL hats, I mean it's released now, why do people keep complaining?

People need to give Yavn a break too, there's no reason to make rude comments or rooms about how it was brought back when people were sending in messages saying that they would like it released.

Just my :twocents:

I'm starting to get better about this...

And that's true, Yavn and others did all this hard work for us and all we do is complain, I mean we should be happy, right? At least we were able to get it.

I feel better now. :P

Getting a bit tired of seeing these threads in over 40 places all over the forums so here goes my few final cents on this whole ore deal. If you want to quit VMK becuase something is re-released then why did you not quit when HM was re-release last year? or the tiki fountain re-released? or the pink slipper? or almost EVERY other item in the game!? Just becuase one item is re-released that is no reason to start comapling. So when Inferno is re-released in host games your going to quit VMK? It's just pointless. It's not the end of the world, it's just a game. Another thing, it's a free game. Alot of people complain more about a silly green backwards hat then 4 and 5 year old complain about how they hate why a toon left them in an elevator in a boss battle. Life is not fair, VMK is not fair, VMK is not buger king you can't always have it your own way. VMK is McDonalds you go there to sit down and eat a big mac not have it your way (most of the time)!

Well we would not want a new person inspired to achieve higher. I have an idea, in Saturday morning soccer games lets stop keeping score and awarding the winners since the losing team will feel bad,(oh yea they do this is many places). Maybe in schools so no child is left behind we should just lower the test score requirements, so that kid that really needed the extra help, instead feels better about passing a lesser job. Oh and let's stop rewarding kids for doing great things in school/class too. It makes the others that did not get an award unhappy.

Dude.. Harsh.

Oh plz, this is a virtual game with virtual items. VMK was created for ppl to have fun and make friends. Not to fight over a virtual item for goodness sakes. I'm glad to see them re-releasing items. So they lose some of their value it will go up again. Ppl are always joining vmk so these items will be rare again before you know it. Get a life! Angel Fancy

i do. it will give people the chance to use creativity not only use things bc they are rare.

if you want my opinion on the flip hat please see the link below
http://www.vmkforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1717962&postcount=22

No, it's not fair. For instance, I traded 40k, Full Theater, 5 star teleportation magic, 5 star bat magic, 5 star snowman magic, and Bird Hat for flip then a week later, there selling it.

well i'm kinda glad that i could get a flip and a pan cause they were the two hats i always wanted (not counting stitch)

and yes i kinda feel bad for the people who traded alot, but it gives poor people a chance to have cooler stuff. Some people might not want this, but we were all guests once!

At first I was just annoyed VMK was re-releasing items. Now they have crossed the line, the Backwards hat is going to far. I really hope VMK makes some changes REAL soon. This is going to be really frustrating if they keep doing these kind of things.

Nope:(( i like things rare:(

It may be tough for some people to get over pan and flip coming out after some may have saved alot and traded for it right before they came out :( At the same time, I bet that VMK staff has gotten lots of requests from many players about getting them back. In some ways I agree, if VMK staff keeps taking out beta items and stuff like that then nothing will be rare in VMK. It will turn into something that Everyone will have!

i dont like this because its like you trade so many stuff for a stitch hat then a week later stitch hat comes out for 1000 credits not so great

:rolleyes:Who CARES about flip and pan coming out? minnie will be here too soon! but all your complaining won't change yavn's mind. he brought vmk to you, he is trying to make it better for newbies so they can get a fresh start. he's trying so hard, and all most people do is sit, complain, quit, sit, complain, quit. in my opinion, the people who complain are just selfish. they don't care about others who are so happy the flip came out, all they care about was going to get loads of rare for the flip they already had. and in my opinion it's their fault they lost their stuff a week before it came out. they could have waited. we ALL knew that day would come. vmk is starting to lose it's magic, not because of the re-releasing, not because of the crazy unbehaved people out there, not because of the taken, or the bay be, it's because people aren't understanding that this is Virtual Magic Kingdom. this is an online disney world! people are supposed to be kind to the newbies, show them the way of disney. people are supposed to be happy these kinds of things happen. we are so lucky we have these things, but most people don't see it. and for the more wealthy people, they're lucky they have bird, inferno, stitch, green flips, sparrow, magic, etc. so why can't they deal with one little hat - that never was as rare as people as they thought in the first place? wasn't all that i just explained what beta days was like? everyone was free and happy. no quitting, just loving every minute of the game? that's what i remember. ( arg i just realized vmk opens in two hours. >_< that's forever!! lol ). so to all the people who are frusterated about the whole flip and pan thing - and soon to come minnie - , once you think about it, is it really THAT bad? is it really THAT worthy of quitting vmk, of complaining about it on the forums? no. it isn't. it's quite silly actually. so all you complainers, go just think about it, think about how much you're overreactig. think about how this means to the new people, how happy they are to be on vmk. how happy they are to finally have something of value, it is a good feeling. we all know it. we were guests and newbies at one point. we remember it, that feeling when you get your first gold ears, or witch hat, or anything. that's how leaders start, that's where they begin.


And that is my opinion. Very long, but my opinion. :rolleyes:

heaven knows. they could take it back and never release it again Being that it has been almost two years since it has been released and the uncertainty of where VMK will be two years from now, you may be right.

What I was thinking was that now that WDW is closing VMK in the park, we will have other rare items that maybe they won't release again. Like all the new and old quest. Pianos , wells and rooms might be rare soon. So lets be positive and see where this is going. Regular today, rare tomorrow, who knows. If they release something on a Quest that you can only get one, that would be good, that could keep the value up on items. Unless you have 20 Mules, Lol.

What I was thinking was that now that WDW is closing VMK in the park, we will have other rare items that maybe they won't release again. Like all the new and old quest. Pianos , wells and rooms might be rare soon. So lets be positive and see where this is going. Regular today, rare tomorrow, who knows. If they release something on a Quest that you can only get one, that would be good, that could keep the value up on items. Unless you have 20 Mules, Lol.

Hmmm, it looks like its changing the balance of power to players who were able to get to the parks during the Park Quest era (as they will have the most items destined to become rare)...

Hmmm, it looks like its changing the balance of power to players who were able to get to the parks during the Park Quest era (as they will have the most items destined to become rare)...Very true, just wait for a wild before you start trading for this items, the way VMK is going, you never know, they might be release some Friday.

I don't like the idea of re-releasing items. Now everybody is getting all nervous and jumpy about trading their rare for other rare costumes and such. I for one thing, offered on Red Baseball Hat and a Princess Minnie Hat, and they both accepted but I'm also nervous that those two hats will release again, so it's really not good of VMK to keep on doing that.

The thing is, rare isn't good. It creates a false class system. People go around saying that they're 'rich' when they're not - they've just had more time in game than other people. The same applies when you go around making fun of n00bs. They aren't dumb, they just haven't had the time in the game that you have. Guys, rare doesn't matter. It's a virtual item.

If you saw a guy in Walt Disney World wearing a hat that said, for example, WDW 1985 or something, would you go up and offer him your mouse ears for it since the last time his hat was availiable, it was 1985? No. You wouldn't probably even care. If you cared that much, you would go look on eBay. So it's the same in VMK, only VMK has decided to let EVERYONE have this stuff. Now people don't get annoying trade requests.

Rare is bad, and VMK has realized this.

I think its good. So what if you worked "hard" for it. I work in the garden and cleaning machinery and all that razz to get payed. Do you do that to get a flip hat. I do it so I can get what I want.

dude we are talking about a game.. not real life, but ppl realize its a game lol its not the end of the world or something..

The thing is, rare isn't good. It creates a false class system. People go around saying that they're 'rich' when they're not - they've just had more time in game than other people. The same applies when you go around making fun of n00bs. They aren't dumb, they just haven't had the time in the game that you have. Guys, rare doesn't matter. It's a virtual item.

If you saw a guy in Walt Disney World wearing a hat that said, for example, WDW 1985 or something, would you go up and offer him your mouse ears for it since the last time his hat was availiable, it was 1985? No. You wouldn't probably even care. If you cared that much, you would go look on eBay. So it's the same in VMK, only VMK has decided to let EVERYONE have this stuff. Now people don't get annoying trade requests.

Rare is bad, and VMK has realized this.



dude we know it is a game.. its just that we wasted our time getting these items and now all that time is wasted

actually someone did hand me a stitch hat on a silver platter.... a guest gave me one for free rofl

I don't like the idea of re-releasing items. Now everybody is getting all nervous and jumpy about trading their rare for other rare costumes and such. I for one thing, offered on Red Baseball Hat and a Princess Minnie Hat, and they both accepted but I'm also nervous that those two hats will release again, so it's really not good of VMK to keep on doing that.
yeah well that annoys me cause i just traded my spare bird hat for red baseball before reading the stupid newsletter >_<

:rolleyes:Who CARES about flip and pan coming out? minnie will be here too soon! but all your complaining won't change yavn's mind. he brought vmk to you, he is trying to make it better for newbies so they can get a fresh start. he's trying so hard, and all most people do is sit, complain, quit, sit, complain, quit. in my opinion, the people who complain are just selfish. they don't care about others who are so happy the flip came out, all they care about was going to get loads of rare for the flip they already had. and in my opinion it's their fault they lost their stuff a week before it came out. they could have waited. we ALL knew that day would come. vmk is starting to lose it's magic, not because of the re-releasing, not because of the crazy unbehaved people out there, not because of the taken, or the bay be, it's because people aren't understanding that this is Virtual Magic Kingdom. this is an online disney world! people are supposed to be kind to the newbies, show them the way of disney. people are supposed to be happy these kinds of things happen. we are so lucky we have these things, but most people don't see it. and for the more wealthy people, they're lucky they have bird, inferno, stitch, green flips, sparrow, magic, etc. so why can't they deal with one little hat - that never was as rare as people as they thought in the first place? wasn't all that i just explained what beta days was like? everyone was free and happy. no quitting, just loving every minute of the game? that's what i remember. ( arg i just realized vmk opens in two hours. >_< that's forever!! lol ). so to all the people who are frusterated about the whole flip and pan thing - and soon to come minnie - , once you think about it, is it really THAT bad? is it really THAT worthy of quitting vmk, of complaining about it on the forums? no. it isn't. it's quite silly actually. so all you complainers, go just think about it, think about how much you're overreactig. think about how this means to the new people, how happy they are to be on vmk. how happy they are to finally have something of value, it is a good feeling. we all know it. we were guests and newbies at one point. we remember it, that feeling when you get your first gold ears, or witch hat, or anything. that's how leaders start, that's where they begin.


And that is my opinion. Very long, but my opinion. :rolleyes:

My hat off to you. Very well said. WoW! That's telling them. You go girl. Angel Fancy :wave2:

Hey, people, STOP COMPLAINING.
It's been rare for a YEAR and you still haven't traded it?
Your loss.
New players get a chance to get something now!!

I'm torn on this. On one hand, I'd be pretty disappointed if part of my outfit (Gray Mansion with a Cowboy Hat) was rereleased one week and suddenly everyone was wearing it. Yesterday when I was playing Pirates to earn credits for my weekly pin, 90% of all the players I saw were wearing flip hats. It was downright frightening! I chose my outfit not just because it is rare, but because I like how it is fairly unique among other players and looks classy. Having so many other players wearing it would ruin the specialness of it for me.

On the other hand, if I were a new player, I'd love to be able to obtain whatever items I'd like, and I'd be pretty disappointed if I had to be playing for years or "rich" to obtain them. Also, being an on-off player of VMK, I miss many of the special promotions. For example, I'd love the Epcot room, but since I wasn't playing when it was released, I'm unable to get it. Also, since these items are typically rereleased for a limited time, they tend to run out of style very quickly. It's stunning to see everyone in one outfit one week, and in something completely different the next. That's my number one concern, not rarity.

Given that, I don't mind these weekly releases...for now. So long as they don't "cross the line", which I'm sure will be obvious if it happens, I'm fine with some people having ruined trade offers. Ultimately, it's still for the betterment of the game, and that can't be all bad. Besides, even if my stuff becomes as common as dirt, I'll still have it, and I'll still like it.

no Its not!!
releasing differnt color one like blue flip!

omg just stop. its done with. they were never rare. they wont ever be rare.
you people are sad because you traded a bunch of stuff for a virtual hat.
its done with.
forget it.
this is a virtual world and im tired of reading these threads.
i do agree it would be better releasing different color items, but they didn't so cry cry!
if minnie comes out; then minnies comes out!
it'll stop the scams of these hats; and it will make the guests feel better.
I am happy of what vmk is doing; and im proud.
nouf said

yeah I agree with people that dont like it. bringing stuff back just devalues everything. and stop saying it's JUST A GAME and its VIRTUAL. we all care about VMK and play it. A game doesnt mean you cant care about things in it. Its not a joke, a game brings you fun and entertainment. No where does it say "its just a game dont care or get involved" people say "its just a game get over it" when someone is a sore looser. being involved and caring are perfectly normal and I DO care.

hey listen I am new i started maybe 5 months ago but i have green flip, sparrow and cowboy not because of any hand me down rereleases but because I worked hard to get them. I knew it was not going to be handed to me on a silver platter. you know what? I want other stuff but I dont whine about it "not fair for me I am new" that is silly. well then to you I say "its just a game, just virtual" right? so why do you care ;)

hmmm well wen i 1st saw it i got kinda mad cause.. all of a sudden evry1 had flip hats so i got kinda confused
n mi bro was lyk ohh theyre sellin flip hats
i remember this person offered me soooooooo much for it
and i said no rofl -.-
ahhh but i guess its done with, i just wish ppl would stop using them so much lyk its rare nemore lol

OMG Seriously u guys who dont want it re-released are being selffish! I mean so ppl who want dont have enough stuff to trade for it! i mean like I wanted flip and i didnt have anything to trade for it and when it was released i bought it and i was poor after that. but why cant you take it like a "man" or "wo-man" bcuz you are acting really selffish and that is not fair to the newbies and and ppl who were not on when VMK first opend. and i think everyone should have a fair shot at getting what they really want like cowboy pants, Princess, flip, crown, bird, inferno, ect ect. I also would like to say that VMK is a virtual game nd not real life where if you want something in real u have to work physically hard for it and not trade a million things for it. But if u want to get something in VMK u can also earn up for it when it was re-realeased. I personally think re-releasing is fair and not fair. Fair: Bcuz newer players can get it and the ppl who dont have that much to trade for it. Unfair-bcuz of the price is so over and not right bcuz the guests only have 200 creds when they start.(they should give like 1000 or 2000 creds) and bcuz some people are not acting like mature adults but selffish 2 and 3 year olds. i mean i saw dancing in main street for it the day flip was re-realesed i mean i am sorry for being so harsh but that is so immature! and some ppl are not "rich" in VMK so they cant have as much as the cool ppl that hang in main street and the whole kingdom i mean yea a lot of ppl want to hang with the but they think they have to wear the rare clothing and pins so they sell all their stuff thinking it is on sale and then they find out it was only a periodic release.and they need to...wait i am getting ahead of myself anyway just let the ppl of VMK let the new ppl have a chance at getting the stuff u already have. SO GIVE THEM A CHANCE AND LET THE RARE BE RELEASED!!!!

It makes me happy when any "rare" item is released in VMK. I never liked the idea of rare stuff and I wish everything was buyable all the time.

Better yet why not get rid of all the items - make everyone wear a white shirt and black pants and just walk around with friends .
Oh nevermind they already bought Club Penguin.

i think everyone should have a fair shot at getting what they really want

email me when you find this utopian world. I wish we lived in this world you speak of. I would have a Porsch a PS3 and a new 80" HD TV and a mansion. I want everything but life isnt fair. So I have to be "man" enough to recognize this, accept that I wont get everything I want in life and move on. sorry but you try to justify it but it doesnt work out. rare is rare and common is common. vmk will always have some rare and some common. people only want this stuff because its RARE not because of anything else.

Better yet why not get rid of all the items - make everyone wear a white shirt and black pants and just walk around with friends .
Oh nevermind they already bought Club Penguin.

I agree and while we at it cancel all of the games and make everything free. lets see how boring vmk would become then.

I didn't know where to put this (since there are so many threads on this...) but I got a whole different view on this from my young son last night.

He had some time to play and he noticed that he had a new hat in his inventory (he is too young to play games well and I don't allow him to trade due to his age so I get him the current items). The new hat was the Flip which I don't really recall him asking for although he has mentioned liking it. Anyway, he was tooling around VMK (he put on Flip) and he noticed four people also wearing Flip hats in one of the Tomorrowland rooms.

His view, he was thrilled to see so many wearing same hat as him, he told me they were all his friends.

I got a chuckle. Here we are, all of us older than him, worrying that we don't have unique items and he couldn't be happier to have so many people wearing the same item and being his friends! Oh to be of that mind!

Well for one thing i hate it that they are rerealeasing things bc i am banned:(

It makes me happy when any "rare" item is released in VMK. I never liked the idea of rare stuff and I wish everything was buyable all the time.
ill admit that would be nice... but it sorta takes out half the fun in vmk .-.
oh well, just my view :D

I really don't mind at all. I mean, it would be way cooler if we weren't judged by how much "rare" we have. I wear a cute, not rare, outfit. Except for my Bird Hat, It's too cute ;)

I think I'm on the don't release everything! side because the way I see it is the people who workes up thousands and thousands of credits to buy all the rare won't feel like they should of done it. I mean if they release stitch, the people who went on a cruise for stitch won't feel the pride of achivment that they went on the cruise and got the rare stitch hat. I mean I was on VMK like right after beta and worked really hard for all my stuff, like doing all the quests. That's my opinion.

~Teal

I think it is nice to release things a second time for people to get a second chance and to renew the games supply of that item

Agreed. I think they should after the flip/pan have gone away (out of stores) they should sell it again in a year and a half or to years.

In a previous newsletter, or Q&A, someone requested that he send out Blue Princess dress. That might have just been a little hint that things were coming back. PLUS more than half of the stuff he's decided to return as of now, were also sold last Halloween, so, I suppose it was going to come out for Halloween anyway. I really don't mind that they released flip, or anything else, because, well, I knew it was coming. They have to release nearly everything again. It's just how the game works. You can't have only 100 out of the thousands that play, have one type of hat. It's simply not fair. Let everyone get a taste of rarity. Oh, and another reason, I actually bought most of the rare things I have now (clothing-wise), and since I never bought doubles, I never traded them. Now I have many extras ready to trade in about 6 months xD.

Don't get mad about this. I can understand that many people think it's the end of the world because they sold something that just got extremely rare. Like I said, they probably would have released everything during Halloween.

XxChrisssy

In my own opinion, I think they should release all the rare things, so people can buy it, and people would stop judging people based on how many rare things they have because there would be no more rare things to judge upon!

:mad:i think it is a bad idea because what if u offered lots for pan or flip and did not know it was coming out the next day lol so yavn need to tell us

I truley think that vmk is selling everything that WAS rare and now isnt cause they sell it out in the shops i have minnie hat and i hope the dont sell it because not everyone will have one and now nobody will have like any rare clothes! i thought it was not right i bought a blue baseball hat on my boy acccout ( my daday's ) and it would not let me trade it to mine!!!!!! :confused:

I hate it when people complain about this but im going to leave my stronger feelings about this to the rants area. But as for this thread, VMK is fine the way it is, and not everyone was in the gamewhen things were sold.

woah..... ok i was stating my opinon !! i love vmk as much as the first person but hey.... i understand what u are saying but gosh i just think that way other people have there opinions and i'm ok with that ok..

Uh...
Just bc its selling eveything doesnt mean its "ridiculous"
Its suppose to be like WDW or DLR right?


SO when you buy something there people see it and ask the managers to sell more of it. The managers in this case are VMK workers.
(Yavn)


So everyone gets their fair try at what they want,
And most of it is expensive!

So think about other people and dont listen to rumors
Im sick and tired of these posts.

I do think VMK should release new items instead of re-releasing old ones, but i also understand why they are releasing the items, for new-comers or guests that weren't around to buy these items. Somebody started a rumor that the flip hat would come out, and so many people (these people were guests or players that didn't have the hat) went through contact us asking for it to come out that this rumor came true. As for minnie, there's a good chance that it will come out. Sorry.

- Ace

I do think VMK should release new items instead of re-releasing old ones, but i also understand why they are releasing the items, for new-comers or guests that weren't around to buy these items. Somebody started a rumor that the flip hat would come out, and so many people (these people were guests or players that didn't have the hat) went through contact us asking for it to come out that this rumor came true. As for minnie, there's a good chance that it will come out. Sorry.

- Ace

i completely agree with you but i am just making a opinion they didnt get the hats when they came out as for minnie it was out like 2 years ago i think its been long enough :54::54:

Uh, wasn't the green flip 500 credits when it first came out?

they are twice that now, not cheap i think

They're selling them for 1,000 now, you're right, 500 more than before, but it's a lot easier to get 1,000 credits now than it was back then.

- Ace

They're selling them for 1,000 now, you're right, 500 more than before, but it's a lot easier to get 1,000 credits now than it was back then.

- Ace

For you, a seasoned veteran of the games, no doubt...but for someone who just entered vmk...not that easy, especially with the amount and price of new stuff coming out each week.

I don't like that when VMK releases a new item, people will complain that it's similar to other items out in game (4th of July Hat & New Years Mad Hatter Hat). Then people complain when old items are re-released. I doubt there's a solution to the problem. Unless, of course, VMK starts to get more creative with their new releases :rolleyes:

I don't like that when VMK releases a new item, people will complain that it's similar to other items out in game (4th of July Hat & New Years Mad Hatter Hat). Then people complain when old items are re-released. I doubt there's a solution to the problem. Unless, of course, VMK starts to get more creative with their new releases :rolleyes:

Yep you just can't seem to make some people happy. Did you notice alot of the people who complain about VMK re-releasing things are the same that complain when they release a new item that hasn't been out before. I just don't understand it I think its great stuff is coming back out. I also think its great when new stuff comes out also. I have traded for things and obviously with things coming out it would have been a bad trade but I've made bad trades with out things coming back out. I think that by releasing items again its great for a couple reasons first the people that are newer will be able to get things. Why should only certain people who have been around for a while be able to have cool things? Secondly I think by VMK making items come out again that will cut back on people being scammed. Although probably not all that many where scammed out of a pan hat or flip hat it will still stop it from happening in the future.

Two words on this one: Stock. Market.

haveing bad trades is part of what vmk is. you learn from your mistakes. so if you get one bad trade one day you'll know i should of replace this with that etc.

Being a somewhat of a new player to this game, I find both answers to this question are accurate.

First being that the rarity is to keep these items valuable in the first place. Making them seek able for trade purposes alone.

Secondly is just that. If people have these rare items, it makes them basically too valuable to trade for mid-grade or even high-grade items. Trading alone is rather bothersome, because the new players always want good stuff for their lower-grade items. Trading for me and many others is seldom as well. To get these items is rare as much as it was then. To have them is an honor in itself. Buying them now, doesn’t mean that won’t come back, but it also means it will take time for them to come back. I see these items just to increase the worth of the character alone. So, I buy about for or dive for a keepsake and possible trade for something nice later on.

Overall, these releases of items make my character more valuable. Also, it keeps older characters from having these items only. These means there is less of a chance that they try and scam people out of other items of rarity. They might only have one rare item, while the trader might have 4 or many more of that wanted item. These items also will make the community happy and returning to the game each day to see if anything is new. That overall is another big thing for VMK. This and the addition of summer double point games for pirates and ghost.

I don’t know about the rest of you, but double points alone is enough to keep me coming back each day. The frosting on the cake is the new and once rare items release. Just see this as a bigger potential of trading items and challenges from the accumulation. Thanks!

I think it is a good idea to be re-releasing items, because players who have just joined after the items were sold now have a chance to get VMK treasure. I just think of VMK as a fun game, not all about envy or being the "master" of items that were sold back then. Remember, VMK is suppose to be a fun game, not all about getting rare.

I think it is a good idea to be re-releasing items, because players who have just joined after the items were sold now have a chance to get VMK treasure. I just think of VMK as a fun game, not all about envy or being the "master" of items that were sold back then. Remember, VMK is suppose to be a fun game, not all about getting rare.

Good point there, you rock!

I have been to games that are sort of like VMK, but different interface. This game has rare items as well, and people can be often rude when trying to get them. VMK offers people the chance to have a few rares while others are hard to get. Those that are hard to get are often non trades anyways.

The aspect of the game is make people happy and enjoy the ingame and side quest mods or games. Its all in good fun!

It's not fair to the ppl who already had the item and worked hard for it, but now the ppl who always wanted 'rare' items can have them. I personally don't want the Princess Minnie Hat to be re-released so many people would buy it then it wouldn't be rare anymore. I guess it would build its way up again. If it does come back out to buy the guests and everybody else that does not have rare will be So happy it came out to buy. I won't be though because I already have it. All I'm saying is I hope they don't re-release All the rare items. :wave2:

It all depends, because if they were to release green flip flops and lets say some beta. The value would go down and the whole hype for it would decrease. As well as some other items, they should just release it once.

On the other hand, the items that come out during halloween and christmas should come out every year along with maybe one or two new items or costumes.

i think it is not ok bc than ppl who have a rare item, it won't be rare again. That happened to me alot and I don't like it.

well.. sometimes it good for the newbies but then things wont be that rare! so it is sort of good and sort of bad! :confused: :pirate: arg!:easterchild:

The thing is, rare isn't good. It creates a false class system. People go around saying that they're 'rich' when they're not - they've just had more time in game than other people. The same applies when you go around making fun of n00bs. They aren't dumb, they just haven't had the time in the game that you have. Guys, rare doesn't matter. It's a virtual item.

Rare is bad, and VMK has realized this.

Exactly right! I agree 1000 Percent! :D

i don't think it's so much that "rare is bad" - VMK is a virtual home: it has various "neighborhoods", games to help "earn" credits (thus, money), and things are costly. The ideal of having things that were part of the past ("rare", "beta") is something that i think everyone wants to be entitled to.

Personal opinion: Rare shouldn't be re-released. Enough items were circulated to be tradeable, and being able to work and earn enough and save up to be able to offer for such items that one can offer for reasonably is a way of working your way up in VMK....that being said, I can honestly say I was very upset when I traded quite a bit for a Flip hat and found it being sold the very next week. That ALSO just downplays the fact that I just traded someone a nice load of Tiki collection items and I feel as though the person I traded got cheated out of the items they gave me. And I'm sure they were upset, too, when they realized they traded me SO MUCH! for something re released later that month...


not cool, I say.

It is annoying when they re-release these items. People say it will become rare again, maybe in a few years. There are so many more players that have it. That means it will take longer for it to become rare, even at the pace that VMK is growing. I'm tired of VMK doing this, and I really would like them to stop, what about all those people that trade lots of good items and then they get re-released? I fortunately haven't done that yet, but probably will eventually.

but why cant you take it like a "man" or "wo-man" bcuz you are acting really selffish and that is not fair to the newbies and and ppl who were not on when VMK first opend. and i think everyone should have a fair shot at getting what they really want like cowboy pants, Princess, flip, crown, bird, inferno, ect ect.

i didn't start playing VMK at day one and i didn't get everything that came out. i don't have stitch, inferno, green flips, whatever and im perfectly happy not having these items available to buy bc it gives me something to do in VMK like saving up to get a great offer to trade for one, so i think that rare items shouldn't be rereleased. what's the point of playing a game where everyone looks the same and has all the same items?

but everyone is entitled to their own opinions and lets just be happy that VMK is even around:)

ya vmk is growing.. but just remember, lots of people are starting to quit ;)

I just read the title and the words in my head are NO!

I think its good because the new people from vmk never got a chance to get any of these things. But bad for the people that worked hard to get it.

What they really need to do is go back to only releasing items for one day or one weekend, as opposed to making them available for the entire month or even longer. When they do this, they make it impossible for new players to accumulate anything that will turn into rare, because everyone has such ample time to buy multiples of the item. This, combined with frequently re-releasing items, makes trading up a joke, which ruins the only real objective of this game.

i didn't start playing VMK at day one and i didn't get everything that came out. i don't have stitch, inferno, green flips, whatever and im perfectly happy not having these items available to buy bc it gives me something to do in VMK like saving up to get a great offer to trade for one, so i think that rare items shouldn't be rereleased. what's the point of playing a game where everyone looks the same and has all the same items?

but everyone is entitled to their own opinions and lets just be happy that VMK is even around:)

I agree. Once you have every thing you want, there's no more fun in the game.:)

My friend LightningBrutus and I thought the flip hats were finally taken off the sale list. But to our surprise, Light finds them in the regular hats section. I just went:
OMG WHAT?!

I don't exactly know rather to call that fair or unfair... since many people, like my friend Light worked EXTREMELY hard to get a flip hat when it was once rare.... *EDIT* ( left this out D:) BUT, i do think it IS FAIR for the people who get a chance to buy one. But my reason for why it is unfair still stays.


Please, i ask you. Post actual meanings why you Think its fair/unfair. I mean.. if you just go : OMG THATS SO UNFAIR! or THAT IS TOTALLY FAIR!!!

please, explain why.


:SodaSmiley: - Soda (SassaFrazz)

Well it would be years before the Flip Hat was rare again anyways...but I think its fair. Hey, you don't see Stitch, Minnie, Sparrow, or Dream Ears there, do you? And for people who think its unfair, just don't buy anything, because it will come back out soon enough.

it is not fair bc people worked hard for that, and now it will probably not ever be rare again, or at least not anytime soon!

I think it's fair because it's still gives some of the new players a chance to have the good stuff ;)

Like Destination said, just gives some newer members some stuff that they would not normally get.

It is just pixels anyways, who cares if another person has the same pixels as you?

Nope. the good stuff is not good stuff anymore..

I think it's fair because it allowed me to buy an item I might not have gotten just because I was playing for a shorter time than other people. I can't help what phase the game is in when I sign up for it. I think it's completely fair and like what Destination said, it gives the new players the good stuff, so maybe if they are little, they will be happy because they are like someone else with the same stuff as them.

I think it's fair because it allowed me to buy an item I might not have gotten just because I was playing for a shorter time than other people. I can't help what phase the game is in when I sign up for it. I think it's completely fair and like what Destination said, it gives the new players the good stuff, so maybe if they are little, they will be happy because they are like someone else with the same stuff as them.

I like how people say "I think it's fair" but then only go on to explain why it's fair to new players. They don't examine how it may be unfair to the other side, the veterans who had to work for, or trade a lot, to acquire these items. The objective of this game is to trade and collect, and when VMK blatantly destroys trade worth, they also remove many people's desire to collect, therefore eliminating motivation to continue playing. They're just going about it the wrong way. And why should VMK pander to the newer crowd when it's the people who have been around since Day 1 that are the loyal and tested audience? Many of these new players who come in and whine for the "rare" items without even trying to trade for it will be gone shortly after they join. If this continues, implosion is only a matter of time.

I believe it's fair. Everybody was saying that a backwards hat(flip)was rare. I saw an entire room of people wearing it!! Now,they understand,good things don't last forever.

I know I come back and see they are for sell and that is not fair

Yeah me to evina but my friend Ghostgally payed a lot of beta for that hat and got to but now ?

:confused: why are things that were beta now going on sale ?? :confused:

hmm just my thought but too many ppl are wanting it and it ruins the game just a bit and ppl keep making fun of others because they are not so called rich

oh and ppl are taking the game a little more than just a game

btw its just a thought

I like how people say "I think it's fair" but then only go on to explain why it's fair to new players. They don't examine how it may be unfair to the other side, the veterans who had to work for, or trade a lot, to acquire these items. The objective of this game is to trade and collect, and when VMK blatantly destroys trade worth, they also remove many people's desire to collect, therefore eliminating motivation to continue playing. They're just going about it the wrong way. And why should VMK pander to the newer crowd when it's the people who have been around since Day 1 that are the loyal and tested audience? Many of these new players who come in and whine for the "rare" items without even trying to trade for it will be gone shortly after they join. If this continues, implosion is only a matter of time.

The objective of this game isn't to trade and collect, might be yours but not most of the other players who don't care about "rare".

Why would VMK put flip hats up for sale?! I really don't get I have had one from along time ago, but now it's worthless! I don't know what they were thinking! If you do tell me. I hate it when VMK sells rare things over again, they become unwanted. I'm trying to trade some of my costumes they sell at halloween gone so I'm not amongst the clones...@_@

If you're upset because of these things plese post:)

Happy Saturday:)

I agree, some people trick people in to getting them to ( as in a guy say want flip, u trade and get it for rare, then you see that its on sale! ).

I'm not trying to start a flame war or anythging, but it's a virtual item. Deal with it. If you are so obsessed with VMK as you can not live without rare items, I suggest you take a break for a week or so. I'm pretty sure VMK staff has a good explanation for why they rereleased it.

OrangeMarker, too true! Very good point.

I have something else to add to that though.

VMK is not supposed to be about collecting rare items and having your avatar look 'rich', it's supposed to be about having fun.
Do you really think it's fun for a player to have to spend hours earning rare items just to get one lousy hat? (I'm referring to the green reversed hat, before it was re-sold)
Re-selling things is VMK's way of letting everyone have a chance at getting a certain item.
So what if the item loses it's value?
So what if you make a virtual loss on what you traded for it?

I, myself, have had much more fun in VMK now that I've, pretty much, given up trading.

Jeena
xxXxx

Some people and me just had an 'arguement' about this. But i also think that it IS fair that they sell the flip hats. I was mad when this first started but then i realized that we should put ourselves
in the guests' shoes.
Remember when you first joined VMK and you saw so many rare items that were really cool? And you wanted them too?
Well, now that the flip hats are for sale, it gives a chance for guests to have something that other vmk players have that was actually rare.
I think it's fair for both guests and the vmk players now.
:qgreenjumpers:

]trading is fun and all but come on..
when flip was still rare alot of ppl were crazy about it and kept scamming
there aren't as many scams now i see

and too make long story short - too many ppl wanted flip! lol
and its only 1 rare item

Thank You! I am not obsessed with VMK im just trying to find your opinion.:)

Thanks Alot:)

I personally liked it. It gave newer people to get a chance to get a cool item, and allowed others (older players) to get more of the same item. To me it doesn't make any difference just because another player is wearing the same thing as me. It is the same item and isn't any different, and even at that, just pixels.

Everybody Is Right Here! I think that it was fair to put them on sale because guests' all they have are those 'guest' and 'cheap' clothing but now they have at least about 5 cool items. Lets just hope they do not do the same with cowboy!!

where is the flip hat selling??

Cowboy comes out every halloween, and guess what month it will be tomorrow...

Under clothes in hats


Also like, we all know that everything is going to be re- released sooner or later dont we? And there is still a lot more than flip hat

thats true... but my sister would just die if the sell minnie hat but they probly never will!!

thats true... but my sister would just die if the sell minnie hat but they probly never will!!

They possibly could if we had a prince and princess month or something of that sort.

The most likely reason for the flip hat was baseball month, the pan hat was from the peter pan rides (which still have not been released), and the crown was released as sort of a "fairness" to boys, when many people requested the re-release of blue princess.

interesting..

Under clothes in hats


Also like, we all know that everything is going to be re- released sooner or later dont we? And there is still a lot more than flip hat

wait how do they release Tink Pins and Holiday 05 Pins and etc. etc.?

i have a thread about this too, im thinking exactly like you guys, but they were all against me

wait how do they release Tink Pins and Holiday 05 Pins and etc. etc.?

Those pins would most likely not be released again.

In a way i think BOTH.
It kind of seems like a good idea but
also not a good idea either..
I mean yes alot of people out there work so hard to get them..
But some people never had a chance to get them (for the new players)..
I wonder if there ever going to sell Bird or Minnie..
Now that would be shocking!

I think it is not a good idea. Maybe minnie or sparrow should be on sale for like a day every year so if you were on that day then you got lucky. If not then it is at least a little rare. Also when it is out, you can buy like two of everything (if you have enough credits) and trade them :) heh

It's a good and bad idea.
Good:

For those that don't really have much rare to trade or are simply clueless in the trading field, but have stocked up on credits can get them.

Bad:

Those that got it around the first time or traded a load to get the item feel 'pain'. I'd been gone from vmk for a while and when I returned, it seemed everyone had a flip and pan hat. After taking a peek around the shops, I saw that they were on sale. I was a little more than surprised since I had gone through quite a bit of stuff to get the flip, pan, and sorcerer hats. I'm guessing the people who had the cowboy pants when they were rare could tell you more..

I believe on the most part it was a bad idea. Most people thought that it was bad because they lost their "rare" or "rarity" of the item. I personally will have to agree with this. They completely caught most of us off guard and it was truly unfair that most of them (those who traded) spent all their furniture for something that was going to be released once more. I also will have to agree with Ishika for the good part. Most of the VMK population are new users, so they deserve a chance to get the hats. Or the people with only credits should be able to trade those credits for the hats, rather than item vs item.

Penguinz
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Sorry if that made no sense, I am so tired.

The "new" stuff ,vmk is letting to be sold , is making a few ppl less as you can say, rare. Like the pan hat. It used to be really rare but then it was sold in small world imports, so was the green flip. Then it added furniture. And today they are selling cowboy.

What they are doing is making alot of ppl in vmk less "rich" .

Why cant vmk make new stuff and not sell old retierd stuff?

If they want to give out some old costumes, then why dont they use them for Host rooms.

If you agree with my statement plz tell me. I want to know if im not the only person thinking this.



Have a wounderful day,
.:Cookie_Fairy:. ( aka ) ---> Finchay

ANd just to reply ot this. I have traded alot of my rare for the items that are comming back out.

Anything that came out last Halloween, expect it to come back this Halloween also. The Cowboy and Native American Costumes have been released last year and some parts the year before that. So I was kind of expecting it.

I have no problem with them re-releasing items. It just makes the game fairer for new people (I also include those who just missed out on Halloween last year, so they are not really that new ;) ). Ok, it makes it harder to trade up to things like Beta and inferno, but if those items are the only reason you play VMK then it is time to rethink your priorities, imo. So no, I don't agree with your statement :)

I think the re-release of stuff is like any company providing more of a product. it revitalizes the market by allowing more people the chance to own something. are some people gonna be less "rich", of course, but that evens the playing field some. a small percentage of people owning the most valuable stuff is not a fair market. Ok, Jungle Book being re-released. It's the same movie, they just improved the color and digitized it. How often could you buy it in the original format recently? New fans need to be able to have what previous people got. this is just my 2 cents, i hope it made sense.

True. Alot of new ppl need to enjoy the game too. ( and others )

I guess i agree with both statments

I agree with Jezibabe. Just helps those newer than us receive a few items they might never get without a little booster. They still have to work for it, and get the same amount of credits as other people did at a before time, so its not like it is given to them freely. Just an extra chance at an item in my eyes. It is also good for you if you had the item at an earlier time, as now you can get two items instead of one.

My main view on this is: Would it make an item any less of an item, just because the person standing next to you has the same item? In my eyes it is the same pixels, so it is just as good as the pixels were before.

Now i understand why vmk did this.

VMK isnt just to see who has the nicest stuff its all about having fun.

I was being selfish.

and i relize the good things about this.

Thank you guys for your help.

Now i understand why vmk did this.

VMK isnt just to see who has the nicest stuff its all about having fun.

I was being selfish.

and i relize the good things about this.

Thank you guys for your help.

I don't think you were being selfish at all. You just had a different opinion than other people. At one point I had the same opinion with you, right after the first release of the flip hat. I didn't have a flip, so it is not to say that I was selfish about keeping it rare, but rather I felt that people should work hard for the items that disappeared.

Later however, polls started showing up and I realize that the majority of people were happy with them re-releasing one or two things every once and a while. Another of my main views on this topic is that if most people are happy, then it is a good thing unless it leads to negative aspects of the situation.

People can have different opinions, without one being wrong. This is one of those situations, and I don't think you were being selfish just not agreeing with another point. My opinion is just as good as another person's, and that person's just as good as another. The only reason you should change your opinion is if you believe that the other side has stronger points in your eyes.

your a wise fellow lol

Also, remember that we are getting new items like the Candy Corn chair for this year's Halloween. Stock up on those and they could be rare someday.

stuff that were sold previously are only being re realesed except for a majority of beta stuff are still being kept rare like for example mickey pumpkin was sold during halloween 05 you didn't work hard for that lol you bought that for round 500 credits and now you say it should not be realesed again come on let newer players buy old stuff as well im just saying only some stuff that was sold before is only being re realesed not rare quest items neither beta.

Well, I'm sure people who don't have the items will be happy but maybe they should just sell them for more credits each time they re-release them.

Well, I'm sure people who don't have the items will be happy but maybe they should just sell them for more credits each time they re-release them.

i can agree with this statement. it would be like adjusting the price when factoring "inflation". with that would have to come a reward of more credits per game. kind of comparing how much you earn to the "cost of living", here it's the "cost of buying". i hope that makes sense and isn't to advanced for some people. i'm just kind of using basic economics set against the world of VMK.

i think some items should, others not

I don't think it is a good idea at all! I hate how people have worked so hard to get those items and they just all of a sudden put them on sale. And when you finally get them EVERYONE has them I swear it just makes me mad how VMK can be so thoughtless sometimes, but I still love it :)