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Green flips..

1) one of the most rare thing in vmk
2) people who where here in beta ranting about selling or trading them
3) everybody wants them


should vmk offer these

I don't think it's necessary for VMK it re-release the flips. There are plenty of other rare items but I'd like it if they could keep some things rare.

And no, I don't have a pair. Yet.

~Q/S

yea, vmk should offer them. to bad they are so rare. i can never afford them, LOL!!

I think it's silly that something as simple as 25-credit flipflops which just happen to be a different color are among the most valuable things in the game. Yeah, put 'em back in the shop for 25 credits. Let the "rich" people who already have them whine. It'd be their own fault for valuing so much something so trivial.

I think it's silly that something as simple as 25-credit flipflop which just happen to be a different color are among the most valuable things in the game. Yeah, put 'em back in the shop for 25 credits. Let the "rich" people who already have them whine. It'd be their own fault for valuing so much something so trivial.
Hahah, you have a great point! i never looked at it in this point of view but heck, I totaly agree now!

host games

Im not sure... i wouldn't want them to nevr come out again O_o
but i wouldnt want everyone to have them 'cause well.... whats the point of that, most ppl would only like them for value.... i dont mind but i'd prefer to only give out a certain amount of number (like inferno) to certain ppl... evn tho i probably wouldn't get them .-. but thats a different story.... :)

well they are not the most rare things in vmk, there are the green bag pants which are a little TO BETA! lol people want more then four infernos for them

I want them to be sold again! It's not fair on the people that don't have them.

keep them rare

I say..
They were 25 credit shoes.
I want flips fops to match my outfit when I wear green.
I dont' see why VMK has to be such a "Who has more rare" contest.
VMK needs more disney themed things.

I really don't see what so great about green flips flops, I just want some to match what I wear..
I hate the space shoes with green shirts that aren't space related..

i agreen with neo! resale those same-cost-different-colored-flips!

Let the "rich" people who already have them whine. It'd be their own fault for valuing so much something so trivial.

Perhaps whining about taking out the DLR vmk kiosk is more productive? Something "so trivial" sure made you whine a lot last week.

Yavn has already said that Green Flips will never be available again - I don't quite understand why polls like this appear when the answer has actually been directly given.

I hate the space shoes with green shirts that aren't space related..

Yeah I want to be able to wear green flips with jeans and a green bling shirt, not space shoes that don't match :(.

Perhaps whining about taking out the DLR vmk kiosk is more productive? Something "so trivial" sure made you whine a lot last week.

And I'm still upset about that. I'm see that as one of many signs that VMK will not be around much longer (no matter what Yavn might claim in his occasional "updates"). But this is not the thread for that discussion.

Yavn has already said that Green Flips will never be available again - I don't quite understand why polls like this appear when the answer has actually been directly given.

The poll doesn't ask whether the item will be rereleased; it asks whether we think it should be rereleased. And as for what Yavn might have said at some time in the past, well, you can choose to place your faith in that if you like, sure.

Maybe they should be given out like they gave out inferno..
to a lucky 50 people.

Perhaps whining about taking out the DLR vmk kiosk is more productive? Something "so trivial" sure made you whine a lot last week.

Yavn has already said that Green Flips will never be available again - I don't quite understand why polls like this appear when the answer has actually been directly given.

This is not about Neoteny. People change there minds. In the fact of the kiosk being gone is a real event and not a virtual game event. If the green flips did go back on sale it would probably be for more credits. Say you had green flips and they went back on sale-how would you feel?
Or you were like neo and you didn't want the kiosk to leave... how would you feel?

But this is not the thread for that discussion.

Well, when you generalize about "the rich," I'm forced to make a parallel arguement. Perhaps what one group (the rich, as you call them) whine about is as important to them as what another group (which you are in) whines about.

I, personally, don't think Green Flips should be re-released. I have many reasons, and no, I don't own a pair for myself. One of the many facets of vmk is trading and acquiring high-demand items. This is one facet of many, and I'm not saying it's more or less important than the others. However, if they start releasing the highest-demand items, the underlying foundation of trading will be broken. Clearly Yavn and team want items to be desired ("...the envy of the kingdom."). Let's just leave the facet of trades alone, shall we? It's difficult enough to haggle when everyone wants the same things...for even their virtual junk. :mad:



...and to respond to alphaspida...
I enjoy playing the game - and I like how they made things. Yavn and team almost certainly had no control about the DLR kiosk. However, life is life, and I'm going to continue playing regardless of in-park questing opportunities. Basically what I'm saying is that I'm going to enjoy the game regardless of what happens...and I'm not going to whine about things if/when they change. ;)

Basically what I'm saying is that I'm going to enjoy the game regardless of what happens...and I'm not going to whine about things if/when they change. ;)
It's going to be difficult for you or anyone else to enjoy the game if it ends completely. But, again, this discussion belongs in another thread.

host games if they were sold they wouldn't be so special anymore

host games if they were sold they wouldn't be so special anymore
But that's my point: There's no reason for them to be so special. They're just flipflops in a different color. Why should they be any more special than blue or red or yellow flipflops?

But that's my point: There's no reason for them to be so special. They're just flipflops in a different color. Why should they be any more special than blue or red or yellow flipflops?

well it's like why is a pink slipper chair better than purple. dont vmk staff know u shouldn't judge an item by its color?

It's going to be difficult for you or anyone else to enjoy the game if it ends completely. But, again, this discussion belongs in another thread.

And that's why they make other games...;) and speaking of other games...

I find it humorous to think what the people at Blizzard would say if I were to "suggest" or take a poll about one of their games (another very popular MMRPG, that I can't name). I buy their games and play them because I enjoy them. If I don't enjoy their games, then I would't buy/play them. I am the same way with the free game we call VMK. I enjoy the game that the VMK Designers (not the players) created. I certainly don't try to make the design team conform their game to my way of thinking. ;)

But that's my point: There's no reason for them to be so special. They're just flipflops in a different color. Why should they be any more special than blue or red or yellow flipflops?

Because the disign team made it that way. ;)

I agree with Neoteny.
They should not be valued as any more than the other flip flops.

If someone's going to be so distraught over an item (That should be valued at 25 credits..) being released again..they shouldn't be on VMK. VMK should be a magical experience because you're in the happiest place on earth, -Virtually.

So let green flips be released, its a pair of shoes.
All I care about is being able to wear green shoes besides green space shoes!

If someone's going to be so distraught over an item (That should be valued at 25 credits..) being released again..they shouldn't be on VMK. VMK should be a magical experience because you're in the happiest place on earth, -Virtually.

So let green flips be released, its a pair of shoes.
All I care about is being able to wear green shoes besides green space shoes!

Well, let's not forget the real-life "Happiest Place on Earth."

Pin trading, for example, is a vibrant aspect of the Disney culture. Disney intentionally creates some pins to be rarer than others. They usually distinguish those from the more common pins by calling them "Limited Edition." Sure, at the time of purchase (whenever that is) the cost is relatively cheap. However, over time, the instrinsic value of that item goes up.

Does Disney get inundated with people asking for that Limited Edition pin to be released once again - at the original cost, no less? I sure hope not. Yes, the pin was once relatively cheap, but now that time has passed (say, for a pin purchased many years ago), the value is much much higher. The pin is worth what people are willing to offer - same as trading in vmk.

There's no driving reason that the VMK design team should release green flips again - just as there's no driving reason that Disney would release one of the rarest pins for real-life trading.

I don't know if this is correct but someone told me that the reason Green flip flops, Green baggy pants and Green belly shirts were taken out was because people were trying to impersonate staff so they stopped selling them.

Why does it always have to matter about how "Rare" everything is..

Some people think way to deeply into the "Rarity" of items.

Sure, trading is fun.. but when you can't own a decent pair of green shoes because they're so rare.. thats just.. arrr, lame.

I don't know if this is correct but someone told me that the reason Green flip flops, Green baggy pants and Green belly shirts were taken out was because people were trying to impersonate staff so they stopped selling them.
That would have made sense back when the staff dressed like that. They don't anymore.

For me, I want them to leave it alone. It's fun having a unique item, that not many people have. If everyone had the same items, VMK wouldn't be fun in my view.


- LJ

I agree 110 % with GoofyGeggy.. Not saying just because I have them.. But it would be pretty pointless if everyone had them. I mean all that hard work down the drain because they sold them? That is like telling VMK to sell EVERY ITEM.. Like GoofyGeggy stated that yes yavn did say green flips, bag pants, belly shirt, and boys staff shirt will never be released again. And if he does well than yavn can not keep his word because we do have a QUOTED statement of him saying in the newsletter that they will never ever come back. Just my point of view on thigs. As, again I doubt the green clothes would ever come back. One last thing about alexwonderlandd if you really want these flips go on the adventurous mission and find a pair.

- Stitch

Let me be sold again for like, 5 minutes. Haha, everyone would try and get on. It'd be HILARIOUS.

Yes :D

~Penguinz

-The people with green flips will say "no way"
-The people without green flips will say "totally"

Simple as that...

Hahah, you have a great point! i never looked at it in this point of view but heck, I totaly agree now!

besides it will be something like a lesson of a reality of life... it happens in business all the time... you can't always be on top!

I want them to be sold again! It's not fair on the people that don't have them.
Um.. Why is it not fair?
1) Everyone had a chance to buy these when they were for sale. If you'd found the game, and were weird enough to buy a pair of flips, then you'd have the chance.
2) Tell me, what makes them so cool, if everyone in VMK has them? I'm sorry guys.. but they're flips that's been left in the rain too long. They're... GREEN. Still, why would they be so cool? They'd be the fashion geeks who wear them "with their outfit" and that's it.
Maybe they should be given out like they gave out inferno..
to a lucky 50 people.
I like you're thinking there, that's a good idea. People have the chance to get the flips, and you gotta be lucky.
Why does it always have to matter about how "Rare" everything is..
Some people think way to deeply into the "Rarity" of items.
Sure, trading is fun.. but when you can't own a decent pair of green shoes because they're so rare.. thats just.. arrr, lame.
I like you.
-The people with green flips will say "no way"
-The people without green flips will say "totally"
Simple as that...
See answer to first quote. What makes them so cool?

My answer to the thread is to either leave them alone, or give them as random host prizes. Not HOST Games!!. Random, and if they're gonna do that, we need the HOSTs to do just that, give them randomly!!

Thanks for reading.. have to go catch a flight now.
Bye!

Just sell them for a million credits and if peeps want them bad enough then they can get them.

once a month as a random host prize would be cool

-The people with green flips will say "no way"
-The people without green flips will say "totally"

Simple as that...

Uh, wrong. I own green flips and actually think they should be re-released but on a very very limited basis such as a random prize in a host game occassionaly. I also say this about the green bag pants and green boy/girl staff shirts. When I say occassionaly, I don't mean like the inferno blow out with 50 infernos, either. I mean like 1 a month.

Why? Currently there are limited numbers of these items. As people retire from vmk, accounts are deleted or banned, these number go down slowly. Yes it makes the value go up. But at the same time, people are selling these items on unmentionable sites or via im trades involving big bucks.

This means that unless somebody has the money to buy them in real life or the trading ability and dedication they will never own them. Imagine the joy that winning a pair of green flips in a host quest by being lucky winner #99 would bring to you or any other random vmk player.

Should be left as is, I worked hard for my pair.

I voted for should be sold...

My rationale is that I think in general, VMK would be more fun if people could just have items and enjoy them doing community events with other people in the game.

I think all the chasing for rare detracts from the game. If the rare were more available, I think more people would be available just to *enjoy* the game.

(this is a general comment and not so much directed just at green flip flops)

I agree with just about everything GoofyGeggy said.

Besides, why does it matter so much to sell them?
I think it is just you thinking of yourself right? not the people who traded for them?

Ok, now lets see you aquire green flip flops from a trade and watch all your opinions dramatically change. ;)

It is my goal to collect certain rare items, if they were all to become common, the game would just become boring. It's like real-life; you have to work for your items.

And for those who bought them in beta, consider them lucky, and a permanent treat for joining so early.

Should be left as is, I worked hard for my pair.

Congratulations! Let me be first to appologise for the people thinking the item you worked so very hard for to be released for their own benefits.

I want them to be sold again! It's not fair on the people that don't have them.

.. and it would be even more unfair for the people who have already aquired them to have the item they worked very hard/bought as a special treat beta item for joining so early.


I am extremely saddend to see how ruthless/mean some people can be just thinking of purely themselves and forgetting anyone else (not aimed at anyone specific)

I think it's silly that something as simple as 25-credit flipflops which just happen to be a different color are among the most valuable things in the game. Yeah, put 'em back in the shop for 25 credits. Let the "rich" people who already have them whine. It'd be their own fault for valuing so much something so trivial.


Yes amen to that!

What is it with green clothing vmk find so interesting, green baggy pants, green staff shirts and green flips all taken off the came to remain rare!

It is my goal to collect certain rare items, if they were all to become common, the game would just become boring. It's like real-life; you have to work for your items.

And for those who bought them in beta, consider them lucky, and a permanent treat for joining so early.



Congratulations! Let me be first to appologise for the people thinking the item you worked so very hard for to be released for their own benefits.



.. and it would be even more unfair for the people who have already aquired them to have the item they worked very hard/bought as a special treat beta item for joining so early.


I am extremely saddend to see how ruthless/mean some people can be just thinking of purely themselves and forgetting anyone else (not aimed at anyone specific)

I think part of the fun of trading is trying to anticipate which items might be rereleased and which items probably won't (and when, how, and quantity of any potential releases). I don't think all *rare* items should be rereleased in bulk immediately. But limited rereleasing on occasion makes items in general more available to newer players (many of whom just want to enjoy the item and not trade them).

And in terms of people having worked hard to acquire items. Well, I say, if you are spending your time and energy acquiring a virtual item, then you get what you get. All of VMK could end tomorrow. Any item (and I have some rare too) could be rereleased in bulk tomorrow.

Trading is but a part of the game...I think the whole items being super rare aspect to the game detracts from it. Everyone has to have a few super rare item ?? I just don't get it. The rare items I want (mostly clothing or magic), I want to enjoy while playing the game...not just have to have.

oh we talking shoes?!?!
i mis understood :O
i thought it was the hat..

Um.. Why is it not fair?
1) Everyone had a chance to buy these when they were for sale.

1) I didn't even join in beta.
2) How were the people that joined in beta meant to know they were gonna be retired?!

VMK Isn't about having the most rare, It's about having fun, not trading mountless stuff of rare for a pair of 25 credit shoes!

1) I didn't even join in beta.
2) How were the people that joined beta meant to know they were gonna be retired?!

I had the same reaction to the quote about everybody had the chance to buy them. Nope, not me, I had no chance to buy lots and lots of items as I joined in late Nov. 2006. Many many people have left and joined up since the green flipflops were available. Not that I am that interested in the shoes, but comments like that (everyone had the chance to buy) get on my nerves! No empathy for the newer players. And I realize most people were new at some point (excluding the beta and Day 1 players) and we know we won't have as much as others. But to make a comment like that just betrays reality!!

I like that something is ACTUALLY rare. I would like to see it keep it's value, even tho I might never slip a pair on my adorable virtual feet

I think part of the fun of trading is trying to anticipate which items might be rereleased and which items probably won't (and when, how, and quantity of any potential releases). I don't think all *rare* items should be rereleased in bulk immediately. But limited rereleasing on occasion makes items in general more available to newer players (many of whom just want to enjoy the item and not trade them).

And in terms of people having worked hard to acquire items. Well, I say, if you are spending your time and energy acquiring a virtual item, then you get what you get. All of VMK could end tomorrow. Any item (and I have some rare too) could be rereleased in bulk tomorrow.

Trading is but a part of the game...I think the whole items being super rare aspect to the game detracts from it. Everyone has to have a few super rare item ?? I just don't get it. The rare items I want (mostly clothing or magic), I want to enjoy while playing the game...not just have to have.

I do not mean to sound rude if I do, not intended, but am I talking to a new player? (are you new?) if so, our opinions are absolutely bound to be different. One thing that spoils trading is the fact you could just waste items on something to find it get's released a few days later.

Say VMK is an antiques business, and you are new to the business, just because you are new, you can not expect the owner to put everything you don't have on sale.

I think the older players who have spent real time trading for virtual items at least deserve the peace of mind that their time will not be wasted, for the sake of demanding new players?

I think part of the fun of trading is trying to anticipate which items might be rereleased and which items probably won't.

Ok, well, in my own opinion that is no fun for me.

And nobody needs to have a couple of super rare items, but if you want to work extra hard, and earn those items through gradually building up your items through trading until you aquire them, go ahead. I don't think you deserve to have the time you used wasted.

I do not mean to sound rude if I do, not intended, but am I talking to a new player? (are you new?) if so, our opinions are absolutely bound to be different. One thing that spoils trading is the fact you could just waste items on something to find it get's released a few days later.

Say VMK is an antiques business, and you are new to the business, just because you are new, you can not expect the owner to put everything you don't have on sale.

I think the older players who have spent real time trading for virtual items at least deserve the peace of mind that their time will not be wasted, for the sake of demanding new players?



Ok, well, in my own opinion that is no fun for me.

And nobody needs to have a couple of super rare items, but if you want to work extra hard, and earn those items through gradually building up your items through trading until you aquire them, go ahead. I don't think you deserve to have the time you used wasted.

I am a newer player than you :). But I don't know what you consider new. There are certainly players on VMK newer than me.

And I am aware our opinions are bound to be different. That is why I am speaking up about my opinion. (And no, you didn't sound rude, I can *take* a difference in opinion).

If you think that rereleasing items *spoils* trading, then VMK must be very frustrating for you. As there have been plenty of rereleases. I have several rare items acquired in different ways. I don't really mind if they get rereleased as I have the items because I enjoy using/having/wearing them. Whether they get rereleased or not doesn't fundamentally affect my enjoyment of them. It just means that more people get to enjoy them too. And if perchance, a rerelease means I get less for an item than I might have ordinarily got, then so be it. That is the nature of this game. Whether I benefit, or whether I'm hurt by it.

I do understand the nature of trading; mostly I understand that trading involves risk. One of the main risks is that items get rereleased in some form...that doesn't spoil trading for me, it is the nature of the beast. I say this as a person that has both benefitted from it and I have been hurt (so-to-speak) from it. But not seriously so.

I do take issues (and me also non-rudely I hope) with a few of your statements. 1. Not everyone who has a rare item worked *hard* for it. In most cases, they have the item because they joined VMK earlier and acquired it in a simple fashion that way. Or they are fortunate enough to be able to go to the Parks. 2. If people trade up for an item, that's their right, but they do it at some risk. Again, that is the nature of trading both on VMK and in the real world too. 3. Not every newer player wants items rereleased and not every more-seasoned player argues against rerelease, so generalizing is not helpful. And lastly, *I* never said I wanted every item rereleased. I am not even remotely interested in green flipflops. Instead, if you read my quote above, it speaks to limited release of some items on occasion.

Just keeping the game *interesting* and I understand that you disagree.

I recently traded a whole mess of rare items for a Dancing Inferno pin.

If VMK were to sell Dancing Inferno in the Emporium for 500 credits, I'd be pleased as punch to be able to buy more of them.

Personally, I think they should stop selling RED flips. Green flips are pretty pointless now, because only PLAYERS wear them. But yes, it's also cool to have an item like that just be unique. Huh? Unique? More than one player has them. How is that making it unique? Solving my point. Sure, they can be "rare", I won't mind. With how hard it is to get a rare item these days, I don't bother going after them. Maybe HOSTs can give out 50 of them like inferno?

I recently traded a whole mess of rare items for a Dancing Inferno pin.

If VMK were to sell Dancing Inferno in the Emporium for 500 credits, I'd be pleased as punch to be able to buy more of them.

But then again, this thread is about Green Flips. ;)

Couldn't resist, Noeteny...

this debate happens like clockwork every 3 months.

there is nothing new here.

why debate it?

fact: Yavn has said they wont come back

so why worry about it?

I am a newer player than you :). But I don't know what you consider new. There are certainly players on VMK newer than me.

I class up to a few months new.

And I am aware our opinions are bound to be different. That is why I am speaking up about my opinion. (And no, you didn't sound rude, I can *take* a difference in opinion).

Good, just worried my words might get mis-interpreted.

If you think that rereleasing items *spoils* trading, then VMK must be very frustrating for you. As there have been plenty of rereleases. I have several rare items acquired in different ways. I don't really mind if they get rereleased as I have the items because I enjoy using/having/wearing them.

Yeah, it is very frustrating when I waste hours (Yes, I know it was my choice) trying to trade for something, finally receiving it, and then realizing the next day it is on sale.

Whether they get rereleased or not doesn't fundamentally affect my enjoyment of them. It just means that more people get to enjoy them too. And if perchance, a rerelease means I get less for an item than I might have ordinarily got, then so be it. That is the nature of this game. Whether I benefit, or whether I'm hurt by it.

It's not the fact that more people have it, and it is not so speical anymore, I still enjoy it. The point is the time I wasted trying to get it, the work put into it.


I do understand the nature of trading; mostly I understand that trading involves risk. One of the main risks is that items get rereleased in some form...that doesn't spoil trading for me, it is the nature of the beast. I say this as a person that has both benefitted from it and I have been hurt (so-to-speak) from it. But not seriously so.

Ok, it does spoil trading for me, it does waste serious time, see above ^^


I do take issues (and me also non-rudely I hope) with a few of your statements. 1. Not everyone who has a rare item worked *hard* for it. In most cases, they have the item because they joined VMK earlier and acquired it in a simple fashion that way. Or they are fortunate enough to be able to go to the Parks. 2. If people trade up for an item, that's their right, but they do it at some risk. Again, that is the nature of trading both on VMK and in the real world too. 3. Not every newer player wants items rereleased and not every more-seasoned player argues against rerelease, so generalizing is not helpful. And lastly, *I* never said I wanted every item rereleased. I am not even remotely interested in green flipflops. Instead, if you read my quote above, it speaks to limited release of some items on occasion.

1. I think the most common way of aquiring rare items is via trading, I have never been to the parks, and probably will never get to go so yes, I do work hard, as-to-speak, for my items.

2. Sure it's a risk, but if new players are unfortunate enough to miss an item, they have to trade for it like the rest of us, not just get it placed in front of them for sale, that takes the fun right out of it.

3. You are right, generalizing may not be helpful, but I based it on from what i've seen; the majority.

And lastly, *I* never said I wanted every item rereleased. I am not even remotely interested in green flipflops. Instead, if you read my quote above, it speaks to limited release of some items on occasion.

You might as well release every item if a player who just traded for green flipflops lost everything they own for the sake of players asking VMK to sell a pair of green flipflops for their own benefits



Just keeping the game *interesting* and I understand that you disagree

Interesting? Wouldn't making raree items easily available make the game boring? There are a wide range of items on sale through out the shops in VMK, if that's what you're looking for, that is...

1. I think the most common way of aquiring rare items is via trading, I have never been to the parks, and probably will never get to go so yes, I do work hard, as-to-speak, for my items.



Interesting? Wouldn't making raree items easily available make the game boring? There are a wide range of items on sale through out the shops in VMK, if that's what you're looking for, that is...

Sorry, I don't know how to multi-quote (I am new enough on the forums not to know that!).

I don't find your arguments compelling but I suppose that is why we disagree from our different vantage points.

I ust want to clear up two things and then I will let this disagreement go.

The point I was making (regarding the first quoted item) is that most people have the now rare items because they bought them in one of the VMK shops or did a quest or played a host game WHEN they were playing VMK in 2005 (or in any of the earlier periods). In other words, they did not have to do a lot of work to get the rare item. It is rare NOW but it was readily available THEN. For example, it was easy for me to buy the Liar's Dice pin this weekend. However, two years from now that pin might be rare and its not like I did any work to get it.

Secondly, yes, purely from a trading standpoint it would be boring to immediately re-release every past item in bulk. But I don't think anyone is saying that.

What keeps the game interesting for me as a player and a newer trader, is trying to anticipate what I should hold on to and what I might let go of. Maybe this is not interesting to you and that's fine. But please do not say I was immediately calling for lots of rare items to be easily available. You have persistently misquoted me on that point. I said (once again) occasionally re-releasing some items. That is not the same thing. That is a more random thing.

Yavn already said they were never going to be released again, and I agree with that. I don't have any, but if I had traded something extremely rare for them, and then they went back on sell for 25 credits, I would be very angry.

Haha. Sorry to burst the bubble, but why go crazy over something virtual? :rolleyes:

i belive it would be good for a host game, but it would only be in not so many host games, probaly only 6. that way it can still be rare, but not as expinsive

They should be released becuase some people dont learn about the game until the good stuff is gone ( like me ), my rarest item is the top hat. A lot of people that have green flips show them off a lot and put it in their signatures and stuff, its kind of mean. The green flips should come out for like 20,000 credits for one day or something.

I don't think they should be given out again, many people spent almost all there rare on them and it would be devastating.

- Ace

Haha. Sorry to burst the bubble, but why go crazy over something virtual? :rolleyes:
I agree with that. VMK is all about visiting the parks from home , experiencing the magic without going there. I personally don't mind if VMK re-releases items over and over again. Sure , I worked hard for that one item but I worked hard for it because I like it. Some people ( I'm not saying everyone ) just want the rare items in VMK to show off or show their status. Do you honestly think a pair of virtual shoes, clothing or magic pin is going to make people jealous? Some people say they would be angry if green flip flops got released , because they worked so hard for them. Well did you want them because you like them? Or because you wanted status? Popularity?I think the shoes should be released by the staff , just like the infernos were. That way , they still contain some rarity.

I agree with that. VMK is all about visiting the parks from home , experiencing the magic without going there. I personally don't mind if VMK re-releases items over and over again. Sure , I worked hard for that one item but I worked hard for it because I like it. Some people ( I'm not saying everyone ) just want the rare items in VMK to show off or show their status. Do you honestly think a pair of virtual shoes, clothing or magic pin is going to make people jealous? Some people say they would be angry if green flip flops got released , because they worked so hard for them. Well did you want them because you like them? Or because you wanted status? Popularity?I think the shoes should be released by the staff , just like the infernos were. That way , they still contain some rarity.

Yeah, like I said, lots of people are getting the flips and then showing them off when there are tons and tons of people that want them a lot and can never get them because they dont have enough rare items to trade.

I think it's silly that something as simple as 25-credit flipflops which just happen to be a different color are among the most valuable things in the game. Yeah, put 'em back in the shop for 25 credits. Let the "rich" people who already have them whine. It'd be their own fault for valuing so much something so trivial.

Its true! They are the same flipi flops but whoopee in a different color 25 credits is enough u can just edit it for peep sake!

Its true! They are the same flipi flops but whoopee in a different color 25 credits is enough u can just edit it for peep sake!

Yeah i like green a lot and they are just flip flops so why cant i have them? Its annoying that ppl show them off when i want them so much!

Its true! They are the same flipi flops but whoopee in a different color 25 credits is enough u can just edit it for peep sake!
You know, if you adjust the color settings on your monitor, you might be able to approximate green flipflops....

You know, if you adjust the color settings on your monitor, you might be able to approximate green flipflops....

Then we can make our costumes change color.. and our furniture, and our pins.. theyre are all just virtual anyway.

omg i dont see what the dealio is w/ flips?

this debate happens like clockwork every 3 months.

there is nothing new here.

why debate it?

fact: Yavn has said they wont come back

so why worry about it?

Because we can't can't on what yavn says. He's said a lot of things and not all of it has stayed the same as what he said.

I am of the opinion that it's time to take the value down on some of the VMK items. I liked what they did with the Tomorrowland pin. It had its run - now it's over. Time to do the same to Inferno. Just bring out Flying Carpet to replace it and give a whole new batch of people the chance to be "rich" for a while. Same with green flips. (Red are better anyway :D)

I don't see why so many people had to make this thread a huge deal.
VMK was made for the purpose of being able to experience the fun of the Magic Kingdom, but away from the actual park.
I love to trade, but I'm not a huge trading fanatic like some people are here.
Some of you people look way into the rarity of items, but don't take the time to actually sit back and enjoy the virtual excitement of being in the magic kingdom.

I still am going to go with what I said, 50 green flips given by host, just like Inferno, would be super. If thats not going to happen, fine. I'll come up with an offer for green flips somehow..

Sure, why not. I could see myself wearing a pair of my second favorite color flip flops. Besides, we now have black, what more do you want?

Hmm. I find it extremly funny that so many people claim green flips shouldn't be rare because it's just some silly 25 credits shoes.

Things in vmk are valued not due to their actual rarity but by the perceived rarity and interest in them. 5 pages on this individual rant so far. Guess what? Rants like this actually increase the value and perceived rarity of the item that is being ranted over. Thank you vmk posters and ranters for making green flips one of the most sought after items in vmk.

Also, it doesn't matter when new players start vmk. Even if you were in beta, new players were poor but bought things that may (or may not) have become eventurally rare. Just like today. We all started the same, as a poor guest. Buy things and do in game quests, they may or may not become rare. If you're lucky enough to do in park quests, great. If not, there are many people that have "traded up" from trading buyables to getting uber rare things. Yes, I have a good friend who has never been to a Disney Park and never won inferno, yet traded his way up to green flips.

Anybody can do the same thing, with dedication and hard work. Things in life don't always come easy and not everything is handed to you.

Chele, I can see where you are coming from. However, items like green flips are not just rare, but also very contraversial. Yes, they are the only shoes to match any green shirt other than green space shoes, however, these shoes are only starting to gain value. Before the deletion of accounts in VMK, VMK probably had as many green flips as there are Black Flips at this very moment. Now that these flips are being deleted from accounts, the quantity is going down and the value is going up.
If we didn't fuss over the item, I bet holders of these rarities would still know the value of a very rare pair of flips. But just think what stress the VMK community is holding now because of these ridiculous flips. People fight, bicker, steal, cheat, backstab, and evidently lie their way to flips. Isn't the principle of VMK to promote a friendly, park like experience in different every country? Well that is not the way to do it. If the VMK Staff wasn't oblivious to their own game, they would realize how to keep their players happy and not complain, they would just provide them with mostly what they want. To relate this to the real world, think of governments. Same thing happens. VMK has gotten better when it comes to finishing what they started, but now they need to start on what they finished. They should know new players in a year or two will not even stand a chance at these flips. There will be so much discontinued stuff that if VMK does not keep a constant release system going, it will almost be impossible to achieve some feats today. Yavn's slow releases of Infernos is a smart idea... why not do that with green flips? 10 green flips per month? Yeah it would decrease the value significantly at first, but the value in the end is going to increase. People will want the flips more and more, but they will have a greater chance of getting the items. By now, I am lost with my own ranthing, and I bet you are. LOL oh well.

I am just saying, release them to the public for one day every 2 years, and I bet you VMK will be a better place, after all they are just shoes. Put some in HOST_ quests, do raffles again like the iPod and T-shirt give-aways, inferno give aways? Anything to keep the masses happy once and a while. Inferno is the same way, but Yavn has gotten a handle on it for now, why not do it with flips and green baggy pants? It would of been very nice.

Chele, I can see where you are coming from. However, items like green flips are not just rare, but also very contraversial. Yes, they are the only shoes to match any green shirt other than green space shoes, however, these shoes are only starting to gain value. Before the deletion of accounts in VMK, VMK probably had as many green flips as there are Black Flips at this very moment. Now that these flips are being deleted from accounts, the quantity is going down and the value is going up.
If we didn't fuss over the item, I bet holders of these rarities would still know the value of a very rare pair of flips. But just think what stress the VMK community is holding now because of these ridiculous flips. People fight, bicker, steal, cheat, backstab, and evidently lie their way to flips. Isn't the principle of VMK to promote a friendly, park like experience in different every country? Well that is not the way to do it. If the VMK Staff wasn't oblivious to their own game, they would realize how to keep their players happy and not complain, they would just provide them with mostly what they want. To relate this to the real world, think of governments. Same thing happens. VMK has gotten better when it comes to finishing what they started, but now they need to start on what they finished. They should know new players in a year or two will not even stand a chance at these flips. There will be so much discontinued stuff that if VMK does not keep a constant release system going, it will almost be impossible to achieve some feats today. Yavn's slow releases of Infernos is a smart idea... why not do that with green flips? 10 green flips per month? Yeah it would decrease the value significantly at first, but the value in the end is going to increase. People will want the flips more and more, but they will have a greater chance of getting the items. By now, I am lost with my own ranthing, and I bet you are. LOL oh well.

I am just saying, release them to the public for one day every 2 years, and I bet you VMK will be a better place, after all they are just shoes. Put some in HOST_ quests, do raffles again like the iPod and T-shirt give-aways, inferno give aways? Anything to keep the masses happy once and a while. Inferno is the same way, but Yavn has gotten a handle on it for now, why not do it with flips and green baggy pants? It would of been very nice.

Exactly how I see it, only I wanted peopel to read my whole post ;)
Dont worry, I read your whole post :)

I agree with you.

Left as it is or very complicated and rare to get like inferno in the HOST game, but with more generators :Tongue:

Anyways, who needs green flips went you have green paint!

I think my issue with this thread is not-so-much with green flips individually (I see them as just another shoe and they don't hold much appeal for me, high trading value or not).

My issue is seeing the *desparation* that people go to, holding out rooms and rooms of stuff for a few items (inferno, stitch hat, sparrow, green flips, eye pin, the usual). I look at the enjoyment a "player" as opposed to a "trader" can have with those items and it drives me a little nuts. It just seems so desparate. Yes, I know beauty is in the eye of the beholder but that just seems soooo out of whack.

To my kids (and fundamentally also to me), magic is pretty much magic. *I* value snowman magic or cursed storm as highly as inferno. Do I wish I had inferno, yes, as much as I wish I had the other magics I don't have. Likewise, I value green flips no more or no less than red flips or black ones (some go better with some outfits than others LOL, some colors I like more than others IRL).

So my argument isn't that everything should be freely handed out. I have been happy to try to trade or to work for items we want (for enjoyment). But my argument is that items should be *more* available to tap down the desparation and frenzy. I think it is just makes VMK in general less fun to have the trading desparation and frenzy (as opposed to less frenzied trading).

And I entirely agree on Chele's point that a lot of this just fuels the frenzy. You definitely won't find me on the "throw everything I ever did in VMK away for inferno or green flips or stitch" trade threads. I get too much enjoyment out of the stuff I do have!

Keep it as is.

flip-flops or green flip hat??

Green flip-flops.

realease them again!
i want better shoes than those BLASTED space shoes! >_<

I think it's silly that something as simple as 25-credit flipflops which just happen to be a different color are among the most valuable things in the game. Yeah, put 'em back in the shop for 25 credits. Let the "rich" people who already have them whine. It'd be their own fault for valuing so much something so trivial.
Excellent point :D

I think it's silly that something as simple as 25-credit flipflops which just happen to be a different color are among the most valuable things in the game. Yeah, put 'em back in the shop for 25 credits. Let the "rich" people who already have them whine. It'd be their own fault for valuing so much something so trivial.

exatly neoteny!
they are just GREEN FLIP FLOPS
why do you care so much
1 all the flip flops in vmk are fat and ugly
2 THEY ARE JUST SHOES PPL
3 neoteny is right it is very silly
end of subject!

Should be left as is. Where will all the rare go on VMK? To everyone? No fair to those who spend TONS of items just for it.

I think they should be given out in a difficult quest or as host prize, because for one thing alot of ppl didn't know about vmk back the the beta time ( i was one of them who didn't know but wish i had known) and this is true bc at first their were only fifty ppl who were members at the beginning of beta and i wish i would have know about vmk then i could have joined then.

Should be left as is. Where will all the rare go on VMK? To everyone? No fair to those who spend TONS of items just for it.
I disagree with you, it is the person who trades TONS of stuff fault for being so determined to get it and should have had the patience to wait and see if vmk were to rel-release the item...

I disagree with you, it is the person who trades TONS of stuff fault for being so determined to get it and should have had the patience to wait and see if vmk were to rel-release the item...

Well, what do you want us to become? Guests with absolutely no rare at all?

Well, what do you want us to become? Guests with absolutely no rare at all?

First of all this is a game
Second of all so what LOL your not listening to what i'm really saying
Third Do you even have green flips and if not you probably just don't want other to have it just bc you don't have it.

It's funny to see some people say what's the big deal, they are just green flips but then why get so passionate over it? Alot of the naysayers have invested hours in writing up their replies that justifies why bringing flips back is the right thing to do. More even spend time trying to insist they dont care about green flips. I just have to ask, who are you trying to convince me or yourself?

if it's no big deal, just leave it alone. It is a big deal, the more you pretend you don't care the more you actually reveal you do care. Face it, you want them sold so you can finally have one of the most rarest items in VMK. As Goofy said these polls are silly. Just accept the fact that some rare items are staying rare.

It's funny to see some people say what's the big deal, they are just green flips but then why get so passionate over it? Alot of the naysayers have invested hours in writing up their replies that justifies why bringing flips back is the right thing to do. More even spend time trying to insist they dont care about green flips. I just have to ask, who are you trying to convince me or yourself?

if it's no big deal, just leave it alone. It is a big deal, the more you pretend you don't care the more you actually reveal you do care. Face it, you want them sold so you can finally have one of the most rarest items in VMK. As Goofy said these polls are silly. Just accept the fact that some rare items are staying rare.

Invested hours writing up replies?? Now that's funny. :wave2: (some of us can write a little faster than that, and some of us really don't want green flips, its more the principle, is it really that hard to believe that some of us really don't want green flips!)

JazzyJelly <---- spent about one minute writing up this reply :rolleyes:

Invested hours writing up replies?? Now that's funny. :wave2: (some of us can write a little faster than that, and some of us really don't want green flips, its more the principle, is it really that hard to believe that some of us really don't want green flips!)

JazzyJelly <---- spent about one minute writing up this reply :rolleyes:


I just dont get the part where its...

"i dont care about flips and yet i repliy 10x to a topic about it"

If you dont care dont reply. the topic dies. But everyone does care. You can say what you want but everyone does care or no one would discuss it. The prinicple? LOL Now that's funny. Stop pretending, every reply only shows you do care.

I just dont get the part where its...

"i dont care about flips and yet i repliy 10x to a topic about it"

If you dont care dont reply. the topic dies. But everyone does care. You can say what you want but everyone does care or no one would discuss it. The prinicple? LOL Now that's funny. Stop pretending, every reply only shows you do care.

I freely admit that I find the "discussion" interesting. You can certainly choose not to believe me (that I am only in it for the green flips LOL), but then why would you assume I was lying. You don't even know me.

I have stated several times, that I am supporting a principle which is different then having to have "green flips". I have rare items and its fine with me if they get rereleased (some of them have). I have them for the enjoyment of the items. Not for their trading value. I understand other people's opinions may vary. I can understand that you have a different opinion. Can you say the same?

I mostly posted because I found it funny that you thought people spent hours on responses. Obviously not true. I have spent much more time on trading threads (overall dealing with trading) then on this discussion thread....like many of us on VMKForums.

But if I choose to reply again, then maybe its not about the green flips per se. Maybe its just for discussion's sake! LOL Or to correct a misstatement of yours.

Should be left as is. Where will all the rare go on VMK? To everyone? No fair to those who spend TONS of items just for it.

I agree. What if they release green flips, and then get the idea of releasing green baggy pants? Then could come inferno, and the most rare stuff would become not so rare anymore. As much as I want to have green flips, I think they should keep it as it is.

Left as is. People want them so much because it is rare. Very, very rare. If they were sold again, everyone would have them and then they wouldn't be rare, and the demand would go down.

vmk should nat put fliips in stores again because people gave alot of there stuff for them

I don't really care. Anyway, my mansion suit and cowboy hat won't match with green flipflops.

They should keep it as it is. Many people would be devastated if they came out; since alot of people paid tons for them.

I know I hate how vmk always compares against each other but I'm not saying I'm not doing all this, but also i mean come on about that rage that flip even came out i mean just because one little thing isn't rare anymore doesn't mean u should have a total rage over it!!

Oh and plus flip hats are not rare they are sold in clothing in the hats!

I think they should sell them again but for like 25000 credits so not EVERONE can get them.

Well, what do you want us to become? Guests with absolutely no rare at all?

YES!
Since when did this game become an exercise in how much useless junk you can accumulate?
I look at VMK as a snapshot of the real world with people at all ends of the spectrum. There are always those that will value who you are based on how you look, what you own and who you are friends with...
Since I do not agree with those people's opinions, I suggest we release every item with ample notice at reasonable prices so that everyone is equal and can have the same good time..
As for me, I prefer my current clothing but would wear green flips in the summer to avoid athlete's foot and the odor it causes..

Wait you want people to be guests will no rare at all? It looks like you meant NO! instead of YES! since you want all the items to be given out.

I suggest we release every item with ample notice at reasonable prices so that everyone is equal and can have the same good time..
As for me, I prefer my current clothing but would wear green flips in the summer to avoid athlete's foot and the odor it causes..You missed something: What about the people that like to trade? If everyone has the same thing trading won't be nearly as good as it is now, and it will be used a lot less probably.

As for Green Flips... I know I always say rare things shouldn't be released again, but Green Flips in my opinion should be. Why release Black Flips, and have all other good colors in flips (Except Orange, which is similar to Yellow) but not green? Now, if this leads to further things being re-released that are good and rare items, I would suggest not to do it. Unfortunately it probably would lead to more things being released again.


Answer: I could go either way O_o. Green is my favorite color though..


-warner

yeah but if they would be sold no one will like them because everyone will have them like green flip hats

Wait you want people to be guests will no rare at all? It looks like you meant NO! instead of YES! since you want all the items to be given out.

If everyone has everything then there is no "RARE" to have thus the answer "Yes" is still correct (Yes, I want you all to become guests with absolutely no rare at all). Perhaps you should answer for yourself and let me answer for myself.. and if you have not noticed you are already a "guest" of the Disney Corporation. Your right to be here can be revoked at any time without reason given and your precious items will revert back to the bits and bytes they came from..

You missed something: What about the people that like to trade? If everyone has the same thing trading won't be nearly as good as it is now, and it will be used a lot less probably.

-warner

Even if everything was released and always for sale there would still be a reason to trade. Perhaps you built a room and used 200 tiki torches. Well you just don't need them anymore so you want to ged rid of them. If you sold them back you would lose over 50% of your credits. But you really want 60 blue pirate thrones. So you go and find someone who wants tiki torches and has blue thrones. Catch my drift? Since when does trading have to be about how much one can get for a single item?

Apparently I missed the poll but my vote would be for green flips since I'll never get a pair of green ears. <pouts>

Well I'm not saying I have precious items. I don't cherish them, they are only virtual. I think they should keep some things for trading purposes, some people like to collect, if everything was released the trading aspect of the game would be gone.

As for me, I prefer my current clothing but would wear green flips in the summer to avoid athlete's foot and the odor it causes..

See, I'd love the breeze on my toes in the summer as well...

When I first started I saw green flips and asked how much the person wanted for them. They laughed in my face and it took my about 3 months to figure out why...

Yes, it's a silly shoe. Yes, the other colors are only 25 credits. Yes, my favorite color is green.

Do I want them released? YES! But I realize this is a pipe dream, so to speak. I think the best way to do it, if they were to be released again, would be to phase them back in. A few here or there...

I think the best way to do it, if they were to be released again, would be to phase them back in. A few here or there...




I totally agree (and yea, I own vmk virtual green flip shoes).

Dreams Month is a great time for this. A final BOOM on the last day. 3 back to back room gifts. 1 of all green flips. 1 of all green bag pants and 1 of all green staff shirts (the boys to boys and girls to girls).

Boom! It will decrease the existing value (how ever slighly) as well as make a few random rooms full of people very very happy. A true dream gift.

Now that would be an awesome way to end the month! But, a lot of us would complain because we weren't the ones to win. Oh well, at least they would have more of them released. Think how many accounts with beta, green flips, etc., have been deleted. This would just make up a little for all that has been deleted.

Now that would be an awesome way to end the month! But, a lot of us would complain because we weren't the ones to win. Oh well, at least they would have more of them released. Think how many accounts with beta, green flips, etc., have been deleted. This would just make up a little for all that has been deleted.

True, every rare and beta item HAS to be re-released because eventually there will be absolutely none left of rare and beta. But it just upsets some people who just traded the flips for a rare item and didn't have to time to trade it for something else.

yo this is epcot speaking this is i got to say: the whole outfit should be sold staff won't need them in forever sale the whole outfit! bc i have a game called evil epcot based on evil hula i wanna look like an old host but no say i'm staff over and out

YES!
Since when did this game become an exercise in how much useless junk you can accumulate?
I look at VMK as a snapshot of the real world with people at all ends of the spectrum. There are always those that will value who you are based on how you look, what you own and who you are friends with...
Since I do not agree with those people's opinions, I suggest we release every item with ample notice at reasonable prices so that everyone is equal and can have the same good time..
As for me, I prefer my current clothing but would wear green flips in the summer to avoid athlete's foot and the odor it causes..

u go dude u are right right right!!

I think they should be left as is

True, every rare and beta item HAS to be re-released because eventually there will be absolutely none left of rare and beta. But it just upsets some people who just traded the flips for a rare item and didn't have to time to trade it for something else. i know and let all the people with them and traded alot for them whine like the omg i'm so better then u i got green flip selfs

why do ppl really like green flips dont make sense when u get down to it

True, every rare and beta item HAS to be re-released because eventually there will be absolutely none left of rare and beta. But it just upsets some people who just traded the flips for a rare item and didn't have to time to trade it for something else.

I totally agree (and yea, I own vmk virtual green flip shoes).

Dreams Month is a great time for this. A final BOOM on the last day. 3 back to back room gifts. 1 of all green flips. 1 of all green bag pants and 1 of all green staff shirts (the boys to boys and girls to girls).

Boom! It will decrease the existing value (how ever slighly) as well as make a few random rooms full of people very very happy. A true dream gift.

don't forget the 4th and u can buy boy green staff shirts

[U]this is all i'm saying green flips are cool but if people don't want them so bad people will be paying ned pins for them[U]

and u can buy boy green staff shirts

Sorry, you can't buy the boys green staff shirt. There is a similar green shirt available, but it is a different color.

Here is a reference page to describe the previous green "staff" or "cast member" uniform. http://www.disneysonlineworlds.com/index.php/Beta_Clothing

my bad but i saw a girl today with the girl with the almost the full outfit with out ears

Left at they are! =]

If it could come out again id like it to come out in host games

If they released it again people who owned them would go MAD.
It would be a mistake in my opinion.

i wont like it if they put it out again

I've changed my mind. Green Flips should be re-released.

I change my mind because now that Inferno is very easy to get, there's no realistic way of getting Green Flips. Releasing Inferno was a great idea, but the manner in which it was released makes it extremely devalued. I know I'm certainly not going to offer more than 5 Infernos for a pair of Green Flips, and the Green Flips owners aren't really going to want much of anything else...

Oh well. We'll see what happens.

If they released it again people who owned them would go MAD.
It would be a mistake in my opinion.

Inferno was released, and people actually didn't go that crazy. Maybe at first, but now everyone is used to it.

I think they should be given out in host games, like inferno.

PS. Where is inferno? Is it still not being released?

Zebraa, it's very easy to get - through Disney Movie Rewards. :)

I think they should sell the green flips at least once a month. Or maybe in arcade games in the tomorrowland hub. Then more people would actually use the arcade. -_- Or on holidays sell the flips! Just sell them already, I don't care how, just bring em' back!