I read somewhere in an article or something that paradise Pier in DCA is changing. Since they came together with pixar, pixar wanted to be connected with the parks so in 2008- 2009 or something like that. I think a lot later they were gonna change everything. this is all i remember

California Screamin was going to be changed into like a "Cars" ride. Or it was going to be a villan themed rollercoaster. Malliboomer was going to be changed into a soldier theme drop/launch ride from Toy Story. They were going to remove all the rides from the Orange Stinger down so that would include the jumpin jellyfish, mulholand madness, and all the others in that area. They were going to replace the "Paradise Pier" name to something else.

So thats all I remember. I will try to find the link to the article. I remember it was on the wiki but I couldn't find it now but I will look so more later.

I really don't think this is true at all, Paradise Pier is one of their best lands, and if one land I would name to change is Bug's because that is already Pixar. If they really need a NEW area for a land, use some of the empty lot in back of Paradise Pier. Also please state where you heard this, that would be great.

~PrinceTorre

This is one of the possible changes I've heard, too. But it's not the only scenario that's being rumored.

There is a tug of war going on within Disney, with one side wanting to change the entire theme for DCA, the other saying it should be kept the way it is but made "part" or Disneyland (not a separate gate). Since it's rumored that John Lasseter is supporting the complete retheming, I'd put my money on that one.

As for the notion that Paradise Pier is one of their best lands, that's one opinion and I don't share it. When I was at one of the preview nights for DCA before it opened, I bumped into a couple of friends right where Paradise Pier meets Cannary Wharf and the tiny San Francisco thingy. As they were talking, I stood looking at the Paradise Pier area for the first time. I remember to this day exactly what I said to those friends:

"You know, Walt was at one of those old, run-of-the-mill, falling apart amusement parks by the sea when he first started to come up with the idea of Disneyland. And here they've built the very thing he hated right in the Disneyland parking lot. Poor Walt."


At any rate, the latest news is the future of DCA will be announced at the official opening of the Submarine Voyage redo.

The Midway Mania is really taking shape, so it may be the first step to a big renovation.

~Key

They have been tweaking the architecture around Paradise Pier a bit with Ariel's Grotto. I wouldn't expect any major changes to the existing rides but there have been rumors that a few of the smaller attractions may be removed or relocated. I wouldn't expect any major changes to be announced until near or after Toy Story Mania opens in 2008. Once they do the architecture of the show building for this ride, it may give a clearer hint at what type of re-theming they may be going for in Paradise Pier.

I doubt they will make any major changes to California Screamin'. It's one of the most popular rides in the park. It also is serves as a visual barricade that blocks your view of most of the high voltage power lines that lie right behind it.

As for a Cars theme in DCA, it will be interesting what additions will happen following the opening of Toy Story Mania in 2008:
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Supposedly from rumors, this is concept art for future DCA additions & expansions, but don't expect any official announcements what exactly these are going be for a while. I highly doubt California Screamin' would have a Cars theme if the rumors with the above concept art are confirmed.

Cars seems like more of a retheming for Autopia. They've already got that Chevron thing going. This would just be the next logical step.

Cars seems like more of a retheming for Autopia. They've already got that Chevron thing going. This would just be the next logical step.This was discussed openly quite some time ago. Chevron would have to pull or relinquish their sponsorship first, as they have the Nick Park car characters pushing their product and they aren't likely to agree to replacing them with Pixar characters.

Furthermore, the concept art for the Cars ride does not even resemble the Autopia. They'd have to tear down the new Autopia for a complete rebuild . . . again. Also not likely, I would think.

Wow. i thought that the only changes were the Toy Story Mania ride.

nope and did its been a while but they keep delaying that they change the drop sequence in tower of terror and it is said disney is planning to add animatronics to grizzley river run along with a train ride that is close to the calico mine ride at knotts there maybe a new water show and its said that orange stinger will be rethemed or replaced and it said that muhulland may be themed as well and maliboomer i don't think it will be touched cause they recently just finish fixing one of the towers so i don't think they will be changing it soon erm yeah :-) muppets may be replaced with another show i hear it might be phillarmagic and aladddin will be several of years before they decide to change it

I read somewhere in an article or something that paradise Pier in DCA is changing. Since they came together with pixar, pixar wanted to be connected with the parks so in 2008- 2009 or something like that. I think a lot later they were gonna change everything. this is all i remember

This is true, place making will be happening and they will move things around and such to add more details and attractions to fit the theme of DCA. no one knows how far they will go, but something will happen, at leat with paradise pier.

California Screamin was going to be changed into like a "Cars" ride. Or it was going to be a villan themed rollercoaster. Malliboomer was going to be changed into a soldier theme drop/launch ride from Toy Story. They were going to remove all the rides from the Orange Stinger down so that would include the jumpin jellyfish, mulholand madness, and all the others in that area. They were going to replace the "Paradise Pier" name to something else.

Screemin' is staying as it is, just emphasize the theme of it being a boardwalk roller coaster by adding more details.

Malliboomer might be moved, but will be similar to what it is now, or be replaced entirely by a para shoot drop ride found in old boardwalks and still operating today at many.

orange stinger would be removed, and they would move other attractions in that area around, so they can add better tiered seating/ standing room for the new lagoon show in planning stages.

I've never hurd the name "paradise pier" going away. since they are enhancing the idea of the boardwalk pier idea.

(The following information was gathered from a variety of websites, and might have already changed and can change at any time due to construction is not full blown yet..)

(The following information was gathered from a variety of websites, and might have already changed and can change at any time due to construction is not full blown yet..)I'll strongly second this.

Robert Iger has declined to answer every public question about this. He has often stated that the ideas for DCA are always changing, and he feels nothing can be said until final decisions are made (by him, I might add).

There are also big and little power struggles going on within Disney now. This is normal in any company after a change in regime. But in Disney's case, it's put a cloud over everything that wasn't already past the design stage. Add to that Imagineering's feeling the heat over past problems, disagreements between Parks and Resorts vs Imagineering vs John Lasseter, fights with Anaheim, and shifting management, and you have a situation as solid as Jell-o. This is what's affecting the DCA changes; they're so big that egos are threatened and emotions are high.

There's still a rumor floating around that DCA's future will be announced June 11 at the Submarine reopening. That would be nice, but I won't hold my breath.

My vote is that they turn it back into a parking lot.

My vote is that they turn it back into a parking lot.My vote is they go back and build Westcot - which was the plan until that Pressler idiot got involved.

Oh, I remember those plans. First, the replica Spaceship Earth sphere, but made in gold with the silver latticework frame. Then, the giant Space Needle thing. When the first idea was dropped, I believe it was the OC Register that ran:

"WestCOT drops the ball, gets the shaft."

Of course, I would much prefer the Tomorrowland 2055 plans as well.

kewl there is strong thoughts about retheming or removing the orange stinger what are they retheming it to

kewl there is strong thoughts about retheming or removing the orange stinger what are they retheming it to
I love the look of the Orange Stinger. I just wish the ride itself were more interesting.

Oh, I remember those plans. First, the replica Spaceship Earth sphere, but made in gold with the silver latticework frame. Then, the giant Space Needle thing. When the first idea was dropped, I believe it was the OC Register that ran:

"WestCOT drops the ball, gets the shaft."

Of course, I would much prefer the Tomorrowland 2055 plans as well.

MY vote would be for Yesterland. Just think of how cheap it would be? Just put in all the rides you got rid of! Adventure Through Inner Space, Mission to Mars, the Motor Boats, Skyway, PeopleMover, America Sings, Country Bear Jamboree...and the list goes on!

MY vote would be for Yesterland. Just think of how cheap it would be? Just put in all the rides you got rid of! Adventure Through Inner Space, Mission to Mars, the Motor Boats, Skyway, PeopleMover, America Sings, Country Bear Jamboree...and the list goes on!
Monsanto House of the Future! Let's find out what life will be like in 1986!

MY vote would be for Yesterland. Just think of how cheap it would be? Just put in all the rides you got rid of! Adventure Through Inner Space, Mission to Mars, the Motor Boats, Skyway, PeopleMover, America Sings, Country Bear Jamboree...and the list goes on!

Well, since you can never stay ahead of the future, the best idea is to make the "future of the past". A retro vision of the future would be a lot of fun, in my opinion.

boardwalk pier

that's an oxymoron. asit is now, paradise pier looks more like a boardwalk anyway. i don't know why disney thinks the guests don't understand that what makes a pier a pier is that it extends into the ocean. now granted it wouldn't be fundamentally sound to put water all around what is already paradise pier, but what they have now is already an excepted type of oceanic amusement center. why don't they just go with that and recognize paradise pier as what it truly is, a boardwalk. yes, yes i know they were trying to make homages to the pike, p.o.p. and other classic california piers but california did also have boardwalks, some of which are still operating such as the santa cruz beach boardwalk.

I like the idea for yesterland!

I wish they would build a little more on the idea of "CALIFORNIA adventure" though. I thought stuff like the Bug's Life area were irrelevant, and a sort of waste of space; even for little kids theres not a whole lot, although I DID enjoy getting swung around in that giant box of raisins!

I like the idea for yesterland!

I wish they would build a little more on the idea of "CALIFORNIA adventure" though. I thought stuff like the Bug's Life area were irrelevant, and a sort of waste of space; even for little kids theres not a whole lot, although I DID enjoy getting swung around in that giant box of raisins!
"A Bug's Land" is great for little kids! My little girl loves the "Chew-Chew Train"!

its pretty much just a wait and see kind of thing. no concept art has been released so we really have no idea what it will look like except that it will most likely resemble victorian architecture similar to what is already in place at avalon cove.

a water show in the lagoon that might be start on construction early 2008 if they do do it

I read somewhere in an article or something that paradise Pier in DCA is changing. Since they came together with pixar, pixar wanted to be connected with the parks so in 2008- 2009 or something like that. I think a lot later they were gonna change everything. this is all i remember

California Screamin was going to be changed into like a "Cars" ride. Or it was going to be a villan themed rollercoaster.

(Oh, Esmerelda, are we still going to be killing that "Villain park/ride/attraction" rumor into the next two decades! :pork:
That was Paul Pressler's orphaned baby, and he's not even working at the Gap anymore!)

Malliboomer was going to be changed into a soldier theme drop/launch ride from Toy Story. They were going to remove all the rides from the Orange Stinger down so that would include the jumpin jellyfish, mulholand madness, and all the others in that area. They were going to replace the "Paradise Pier" name to something else.

So thats all I remember. I will try to find the link to the article. I remember it was on the wiki but I couldn't find it now but I will look so more later.

Correct answer:
The last rumored plans to change Paradise Pier were going to change it from a "50's Venice/Santa Monica" motif
to motif one of those period California "Seaside amusement parks" out of Walt's past (only clean and idealized this time), beginning with the exteriors to the Toy Story midway.

Unless there's been any new word, and DCA's still living up to guest's Pixar-mania fears--
Oh, and heard the Cars thing was for Paris.

Correct answer:
The last rumored plans to change Paradise Pier were going to change it from a "50's Venice/Santa Monica" motif
to motif one of those period California "Seaside amusement parks" out of Walt's past (only clean and idealized this time), beginning with the exteriors to the Toy Story midway.

Unless there's been any new word, and DCA's still living up to guest's Pixar-mania fears--
Oh, and heard the Cars thing was for Paris.Um, first it says "correct answer" then "the last rumor." Am I the only one who sees this as a total contradiction?

I had not heard the 50's theme before, although that may be an offshoot of the originally proposed (and apparently discarded) Walt Disney's Life in California park. And if you look at the architecture of the Midway Madness thing as it's being built, it certainly is not '50s style by a long shot.

As for the Cars attraction, it is indeed Disneyland Paris. It was supposed to open earlier this month, but I believe it's been delayed.

Here's a link: http://parks.disneylandparis.co.uk/walt-disney-studios-park/lots/toon-studio/attractions/cars.xhtml